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SirPies&Beers

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so kennardshire ya reckon that the only club to actively try to relocate and even pour their own cash in a stadium in new location will want to try get more games back in their original area? When
1. There will be restrictions and conditions imposed on the brand 2. Nrl will control them. 3. They understand their obligations.

Sure trolly troll
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SirPies&Beers

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The Bears brand is worth 2/3rds of f**k all, outside Sydney.
If not worth anything why the games administrators advocating for it? Oh I get it you, some bum from cairns knows more about the corporate side of things than the actual people running the game, that’s why you’re on the forum yeah? You chose not to be an administrator to a billion dollar organisation cause ya know better and clearly ya opinion is more important lol.
 

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so kennardshire ya reckon that the only club to actively try to relocate and even pour their own cash in a stadium in new location will want to try get more games back in their original area? When
1. There will be restrictions and conditions imposed on the brand 2. Nrl will control them. 3. They understand their obligations.

Sure trolly troll
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In addition to the nrl preventing it the W.A. govt has put in safeguards to ensure their investment in league doesn’t go up in smoke like when the force were kicked out of super rugby initially
 

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In addition to the nrl preventing it the W.A. govt has put in safeguards to ensure their investment in league doesn’t go up in smoke like when the force were kicked out of super rugby initially
The NRL will facilitate the Bears move back east.

The fact that they don't seem to hold the Bears in any way responsible for this current Perth debacle is proof
 

SirPies&Beers

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The NRL will facilitate the Bears move back east.

The fact that they don't seem to hold the Bears in any way responsible for this current Perth debacle is proof
hey kennardshire why would they hold Bears responsible when it was all Cumins consortium doin? Do ya even bother reading stuff before ya post on it or are ya just naturally dense? Or worse yet are you belting out your best tunes on the crystal whistle before posting here? Lol
 

SirPies&Beers

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SHOOSH

The NRL has one important hurdle to overcome before introducing a Perth Bears side into an expanded competition. It is all about getting the broadcasters, Channel 9 and Fox Sports, onside. We have spoken to high-level sources at both networks on this issue. They have concerns around the tricky timeslots in broadcasting from Perth into the eastern states, the production costs – and the fact the NRL is going into a city that is already so invested in two AFL sides. However, both Nine and Fox Sports have faith in Peter V’landys’ track record with successful new ventures.


seems like a non story really
 

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The NRL will facilitate the Bears move back east.

The fact that they don't seem to hold the Bears in any way responsible for this current Perth debacle is proof
If the nrl wanted the bears in Sydney they would give them a Sydney license

The bears will have zero board representation

This is low quality bait you can do better
 

Wb1234

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The NRL has one important hurdle to overcome before introducing a Perth Bears side into an expanded competition. It is all about getting the broadcasters, Channel 9 and Fox Sports, onside. We have spoken to high-level sources at both networks on this issue. They have concerns around the tricky timeslots in broadcasting from Perth into the eastern states, the production costs – and the fact the NRL is going into a city that is already so invested in two AFL sides. However, both Nine and Fox Sports have faith in Peter V’landys’ track record with successful new ventures.


seems like a non story really
I did say a Perth team would offer limited valuable time slots for eastern states

It’s assumed the value of the Perth viewers is basically zero
 

Pippen94

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The NRL has one important hurdle to overcome before introducing a Perth Bears side into an expanded competition. It is all about getting the broadcasters, Channel 9 and Fox Sports, onside. We have spoken to high-level sources at both networks on this issue. They have concerns around the tricky timeslots in broadcasting from Perth into the eastern states, the production costs – and the fact the NRL is going into a city that is already so invested in two AFL sides. However, both Nine and Fox Sports have faith in Peter V’landys’ track record with successful new ventures.


seems like a non story really

For all the chest beating of the Sydney Swans their ratings in Sydney are a fraction of what NRL gets. Any value to broadcasters won't be added via regular season viewers in Perth.
 

SirPies&Beers

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Abdo more or less answered this on jimmy grahams podcast on YouTube that dropped today.

west Aussie expansion is for complete different reasons as pasifika and New Zealand expansion. But specifically mentioned west Aussie and nz.

20:43min go check it out
perth isn’t a quick project. It’s a long term commitment and project so whatever ratings they get out the gate or even in first half decade is irrelevant. Their true value will be 10-20 years down the line when they got their systems in place and can produce players and have rusted on fan base even if
It’s only 15k dedicated at all home games fans and the rest are casual.

any uplift in viewership will be higher than what it is now anyways. Only way is up but just reaffirms importance of a known brand to this venture. Without the away fan base and viewership from the heartland then it wouldn’t be sustainable short term I reckon.
 

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I’m about 12 episodes into that rugby league digest poddy (best poddy series on 90s footy ever) and if I’ve learnt anything it’s that all rugby league clubs admins between 80s and 90s were buffoons. All the sliding doors moments that came because of pettiness is unreal. Nrl is in a good position now. Professional administration and bosses that tell it how it is and aren’t dictated by clubs or suits.

you can tell by the comments on this forum which posters haven’t moved on and we aren’t talking about people wanting bears or jets back for reasons. We talking about people who don’t understand how the business has moved on and evolved into proper corporate organisation.
 

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I’m about 12 episodes into that rugby league digest poddy (best poddy series on 90s footy ever) and if I’ve learnt anything it’s that all rugby league clubs admins between 80s and 90s were buffoons. All the sliding doors moments that came because of pettiness is unreal. Nrl is in a good position now. Professional administration and bosses that tell it how it is and aren’t dictated by clubs or suits.

you can tell by the comments on this forum which posters haven’t moved on and we aren’t talking about people wanting bears or jets back for reasons. We talking about people who don’t understand how the business has moved on and evolved into proper corporate organisation.
You’ve still got the nswrl and qrl blazer brigade trying to protect their turf (qrl was against the dolphins joining the nrl, both are against national reserve grade)

And clubs are only supporting expansion because Pvl is effectively bribing them

It’s just Pvl is a strong leader the game is beset with way too much selfishness and insular thinking
 

Pippen94

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Abdo more or less answered this on jimmy grahams podcast on YouTube that dropped today.

west Aussie expansion is for complete different reasons as pasifika and New Zealand expansion. But specifically mentioned west Aussie and nz.

20:43min go check it out
perth isn’t a quick project. It’s a long term commitment and project so whatever ratings they get out the gate or even in first half decade is irrelevant. Their true value will be 10-20 years down the line when they got their systems in place and can produce players and have rusted on fan base even if
It’s only 15k dedicated at all home games fans and the rest are casual.

any uplift in viewership will be higher than what it is now anyways. Only way is up but just reaffirms importance of a known brand to this venture. Without the away fan base and viewership from the heartland then it wouldn’t be sustainable short term I reckon.

NRL admin has been very positive about the potential of buying superleague.
 

T to the T

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I’m about 12 episodes into that rugby league digest poddy (best poddy series on 90s footy ever) and if I’ve learnt anything it’s that all rugby league clubs admins between 80s and 90s were buffoons. All the sliding doors moments that came because of pettiness is unreal. Nrl is in a good position now. Professional administration and bosses that tell it how it is and aren’t dictated by clubs or suits.

you can tell by the comments on this forum which posters haven’t moved on and we aren’t talking about people wanting bears or jets back for reasons. We talking about people who don’t understand how the business has moved on and evolved into proper corporate organisation.
It's a great podcast, standout episodes for me being Phillip Street (ARL's response to the Super League raids) and What the Bullfrog Knew. Not sure if you've made any points yet where they are using Matthew Ridge's autobiography, but they normally illicit amusement!

What I've learnt regarding expansion from the Rugby League Digest's SuperLeague War series is that whilst it may have seen visionary expanding to 20 teams, it was never sustainable at the time. I believe they only were only planning on adding 2 sides when they were at 16 but ended up letting all 4 bids in. A reckless abandon strategy which summed up the wild west of ARL and club administrations in the 80's and 90's. From thinking that News Ltd were totally at fault for the SL War, the picture is far from black and white from listening to the podcast.
 

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It's a great podcast, standout episodes for me being Phillip Street (ARL's response to the Super League raids) and What the Bullfrog Knew. Not sure if you've made any points yet where they are using Matthew Ridge's autobiography, but they normally illicit amusement!

What I've learnt regarding expansion from the Rugby League Digest's SuperLeague War series is that whilst it may have seen visionary expanding to 20 teams, it was never sustainable at the time. I believe they only were only planning on adding 2 sides when they were at 16 but ended up letting all 4 bids in. A reckless abandon strategy which summed up the wild west of ARL and club administrations in the 80's and 90's. From thinking that News Ltd were totally at fault for the SL War, the picture is far from black and white from listening to the podcast.
Yeh we saw how effective the super league strategy was when news Ltd were part owners of the nrl
 

SirPies&Beers

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It's a great podcast, standout episodes for me being Phillip Street (ARL's response to the Super League raids) and What the Bullfrog Knew. Not sure if you've made any points yet where they are using Matthew Ridge's autobiography, but they normally illicit amusement!

What I've learnt regarding expansion from the Rugby League Digest's SuperLeague War series is that whilst it may have seen visionary expanding to 20 teams, it was never sustainable at the time. I believe they only were only planning on adding 2 sides when they were at 16 but ended up letting all 4 bids in. A reckless abandon strategy which summed up the wild west of ARL and club administrations in the 80's and 90's. From thinking that News Ltd were totally at fault for the SL War, the picture is far from black and white from listening to the podcast.
agreed and i think anyones who tries to dispute what that poddy goes on to say on the matter really needs to zip it. these rld blokes did years of research with quotes, reports, first hand accounts etc to be able to discuss the subject in a fantastic manner.

again, whats is the relevance to west aussie bears? everything. its learning from the mistake and errors and not just the obvious ones but also the not-so-known and talked about ones.

finally they said what ultimately drove the bears to arl and not sl was that news ltd club contract agreements imposed a % ownership on all franchises competing in sl. everything pointed towards bears moving to sl, mark soden & greg florimp were big pushers for it and made some good points of getting away from arko/manly heavily favouritised comp but the head honchos at norths just couldnt get past the ownership model of news ltd with sl clubs.

now 30 years on it looks like the nrl will own bears anyways in west aussie. so one could say that the current norths administrators have at least learnt their lesson with whats overall best for business moving forwards in regard to the brand.
 

SirPies&Beers

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rivals.

that jersey would make a good west aussie bears kit as long as it was updated to reflect the modern requirements of kits of course. maybe a yellow line or 2 on the shorts to go with the red back drop and black lines. definitely keep the jersey red back drop and black lines though. no need to change that.

also its a bit funny that one poster with asio security services sources said we wouldn't hear anything during this election period and the other with sources unknown said we'd still get feeds and drips of it (even if its little more than keeping the west aussie bears in the papers and therefore fresh in readers minds). hmm

ding, dong
 

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The NRL has one important hurdle to overcome before introducing a Perth Bears side into an expanded competition. It is all about getting the broadcasters, Channel 9 and Fox Sports, onside. We have spoken to high-level sources at both networks on this issue. They have concerns around the tricky timeslots in broadcasting from Perth into the eastern states, the production costs – and the fact the NRL is going into a city that is already so invested in two AFL sides. However, both Nine and Fox Sports have faith in Peter V’landys’ track record with successful new ventures.


seems like a non story really

It's been a non-story since this time last year (exactly a year today with this story), they published the antidote for this exact issue:

 

SirPies&Beers

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It's been a non-story since this time last year (exactly a year today with this story), they published the antidote for this exact issue:

well the end of the story basically says as much with "However, both Nine and Fox Sports have faith in Peter V’landys’ track record with successful new ventures." that line pretty much makes the bulk of the feed redundant.

this is little more than a feed to keep the west aussie bears fresh in readers minds. most likely v'landys and/or nrl central is pushing the agenda here and feeding journo's with stuff.

also since roth broke the news that cumins west aussie consortium was rejected, can we assume this prospective franchise will most likely be perth bears by franchise/club name since he keeps calling it this?
 

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