WA BEARS

[AlwaysGreen]

I say cater for the huge number of norfs fans, last count 2002 members wasn't it?

If each of those buys $10000 of merchandise a year with the old logo that's $20 million a year right there which covers football operations.

Throw in the proceeds crowd from the game under the fig tree and the Western Pears has got glamour club written all over it.

 

[ThornlieBear]

The current badge is basically the Bulldogs template. If what the Bulldogs have is good enough for the NRL then so is the current Bears. Just remove the NS.

Badge - yes
Animal head - no.

The bulldog has been cleaned up dramatically since the 1980s version its modelled off.

We will have a brand new club with a Bears moniker. This is the perfect time to do it to engage the WA community. Nostalgia doesnt pay the bills. Something modern, digital ready and that captures the NS heritage but importantly the WA future.

Source?

Nostalgia doesnt pay the bills.

Nostalgia will probably pay the bills in the initial stages more than you think. Otherwise the NRL wouldn't be fussed about the bears being included.

Something modern, digital ready and that captures the NS heritage but importantly the WA future.

Agree there.

Breen isn't a fumbler, used to be on a sunday footy show pretty regularly.

Self admitted last weekend that he played Rugby on a Saturday and went to Brisbane Bears games on the Sunday in his past.

It’ll get a makeover

As long as there’s no yellow in the main on the jersey don’t see it being an issue

They will want it to be a bit different from ns bears stuff so nsw bears club can still sell its stuff and make money

Yes, Dolphins is the example here.

 

[Wb1234]

Badge - yes
Animal head - no.

The bulldog has been cleaned up dramatically since the 1980s version its modelled off.


Source?


Nostalgia will probably pay the bills in the initial stages more than you think. Otherwise the NRL wouldn't be fussed about the bears being included.


Agree there.


Self admitted last weekend that he played Rugby on a Saturday and went to Brisbane Bears games on the Sunday in his past.


Yes, Dolphins is the example here.

Ah union and afl

Double twat

And yet channel nine thought he would make a good rugby league commentator

 

[Nuke]

For what my opinion / thoughts are worth (as a passionate League supporter, WA resident, and former graphic designer) regarding the logo, the WA/Perth/Western/WestCoast Bears are a brand new entity. A new club who will have the benefit of a pathways (and former top-flight) club who will feed into this brand new club and bring along a set of established supporters, which will be perfect for away games in NSW.

The key thing is that this is a brand new club with ties to a former club. This new club, as a nod to the feeder club, will take on the moniker of 'Bears' and the red-and-black colours.

All these online debates about whether the feeder-club's logo, jersey, history, ect, should be taken on or not are moot because this is not the North Sydney Bears either relocated or merging with the WA 'Whatevers' club.

NRL's Dolphins have used their feeder club's mascot and colours, but have a different logo and jersey design, and have altered the colour-scheme a tad to differentiate themselves from their Qld Cup entity, and this is exactly what WA's Bears will and should do as well... especially as they will be further removed from their feeder club than Dolphins are from theirs (as Redcliffe established their own NRL entity themselves).

Thus:
* WA's logo should be their own logo, but shouldn't be too far removed as to be unrecognisable from the iconic NthSyd logo (ie: not that CC Bears logo, nor the original incarnations of NthSyd's bear logos). It needs to be a modern, new take on that bear-head emblem. Any logo ideas that I've mocked up (have I shared them all in here? I don't remember!) have had these points firmly in mind.
* WA's colours should be red and black, yes, but another would be a good move. Obviously gold/yellow makes the most sense and would look great.
* WA's jerseys should be unique and their own, however elements from NthSyd's more famous and popular jerseys could certainly be included. And of course there's always room for heritage kits (as every NRL club these days have about a hundred different kits per year, including training kits and game-day warm-up kits, ect).

Again, for what my opinion's worth.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

I say cater for the huge number of norfs fans, last count 2002 members wasn't it?

If each of those buys $10000 of merchandise a year with the old logo that's $20 million a year right there which covers football operations.

Throw in the proceeds crowd from the game under the fig tree and the Western Pears has got glamour club written all over it.

alwaysloser, still craving attention like a pathetic sad sack of sh!t. give it up wanker literally no one gives a f*ck about you or your stupid attention seeking loser posts.

alwaysloser the resident forum loser.

 

[Wb1234]

Good to see there are some wa league residents who can actually talk sense about this team

 

[wb2027]

NRL's Dolphins have used their feeder club's mascot and colours, but have a different logo and jersey design, and have altered the colour-scheme a tad to differentiate themselves from their Qld Cup entity, and this is exactly what WA's Bears will and should do as well... especially as they will be further removed from their feeder club than Dolphins are from theirs (as Redcliffe established their own NRL entity themselves).

Respectfully, I don't know if The Dolphins are a good example. There's quite a disconnect between both brands and a lot of people still don't get the need to establish a completely separate entity, not to mention how unpopular it has been to omit Redcliffe from the name. I know it's not a big leap for Redcliffe supporters, but there's already going to be a big enough leap for Bears supporters.

NS being further removed from WA than what Redcliffe is to Suncorp shouldn't be a reason to justify a disconnect. If it's not executed more closely to the Swans then they may as well not do it at all.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

There's only one disconnect - that between the brain and reality if anyone believes that old bears fans give a flying f**k about Western Australia.

Norths have prostituted themselves out to anyone and everyone trying to get back in the NRL over the years. Western Australia have been forced into the union and so have the bears.

The WA based club's focus should be on developing the brand in WA not in North Sydney.

 

[wb2027]

The WA based club's focus should be on developing the brand in WA not in North Sydney.

They won't need to if it's done right

 

[Perth Red]

Most clubs have moved to a simple digital/screen friendly design with just a main icon and name rather than the old cluttered badge or shield design.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

There's only one disconnect - that between the brain and reality if anyone believes that old bears fans give a flying f**k about Western Australia.

Norths have prostituted themselves out to anyone and everyone trying to get back in the NRL over the years. Western Australia have been forced into the union and so have the bears.

The WA based club's focus should be on developing the brand in WA not in North Sydney.

alwaysloser still trying his hardest to get attention. still doesnt get a clue that no one cares about him, his views or stupidity. alwaysloser desperately seeking attention for things which dont even concern him. now he is having a fulltime meltdown because he is insignificant, pathetic poor excuse for a human with shit for brains.

alwaysloser, the forums resident loser.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

They won't need to if it's done right

dont bother with him mate. dudes just after attention. he has 0 interest in west aussies and 0 interest in bears. he is the most utterly useless poster in this thread, if not entire forum. just craving attention because obviously no one ever gave it to that pathetic loser of a clown.

For what my opinion / thoughts are worth (as a passionate League supporter, WA resident, and former graphic designer) regarding the logo, the WA/Perth/Western/WestCoast Bears are a brand new entity. A new club who will have the benefit of a pathways (and former top-flight) club who will feed into this brand new club and bring along a set of established supporters, which will be perfect for away games in NSW.

The key thing is that this is a brand new club with ties to a former club. This new club, as a nod to the feeder club, will take on the moniker of 'Bears' and the red-and-black colours.

All these online debates about whether the feeder-club's logo, jersey, history, ect, should be taken on or not are moot because this is not the North Sydney Bears either relocated or merging with the WA 'Whatevers' club.

NRL's Dolphins have used their feeder club's mascot and colours, but have a different logo and jersey design, and have altered the colour-scheme a tad to differentiate themselves from their Qld Cup entity, and this is exactly what WA's Bears will and should do as well... especially as they will be further removed from their feeder club than Dolphins are from theirs (as Redcliffe established their own NRL entity themselves).

Thus:
* WA's logo should be their own logo, but shouldn't be too far removed as to be unrecognisable from the iconic NthSyd logo (ie: not that CC Bears logo, nor the original incarnations of NthSyd's bear logos). It needs to be a modern, new take on that bear-head emblem. Any logo ideas that I've mocked up (have I shared them all in here? I don't remember!) have had these points firmly in mind.
* WA's colours should be red and black, yes, but another would be a good move. Obviously gold/yellow makes the most sense and would look great.
* WA's jerseys should be unique and their own, however elements from NthSyd's more famous and popular jerseys could certainly be included. And of course there's always room for heritage kits (as every NRL club these days have about a hundred different kits per year, including training kits and game-day warm-up kits, ect).

Again, for what my opinion's worth.

Respectfully, I don't know if The Dolphins are a good example. There's quite a disconnect between both brands and a lot of people still don't get the need to establish a completely separate entity, not to mention how unpopular it has been to omit Redcliffe from the name. I know it's not a big leap for Redcliffe supporters, but there's already going to be a big enough leap for Bears supporters.

NS being further removed from WA than what Redcliffe is to Suncorp shouldn't be a reason to justify a disconnect. If it's not executed more closely to the Swans then they may as well not do it at all.

i can see both points. theres a genuinely great middle ground somewhere there.

Most clubs have moved to a simple digital/screen friendly design with just a main icon and name rather than the old cluttered badge or shield design.

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is that why 1/3rd of clubs still have a shield? that why 2 of the most recognisable brands in aussie sports are bulldogs and dragons? yeah ok.. just like jerseys things come and go in waves. whats old is new again.
so another wrong statement by you in the books. not sure how many more terabytes worth of bullshit statements posted by you the internets collective servers can take.

perthwrongs, ding dong.

 

[ThornlieBear]

Ah union and afl

Double twat

And yet channel nine thought he would make a good rugby league commentator

He may have played Rugby League as well.

For what my opinion / thoughts are worth (as a passionate League supporter, WA resident, and former graphic designer) regarding the logo, the WA/Perth/Western/WestCoast Bears are a brand new entity. A new club who will have the benefit of a pathways (and former top-flight) club who will feed into this brand new club and bring along a set of established supporters, which will be perfect for away games in NSW.

The key thing is that this is a brand new club with ties to a former club. This new club, as a nod to the feeder club, will take on the moniker of 'Bears' and the red-and-black colours.

All these online debates about whether the feeder-club's logo, jersey, history, ect, should be taken on or not are moot because this is not the North Sydney Bears either relocated or merging with the WA 'Whatevers' club.

Where has this been officially confirmed? I must of missed it...

Thus:
* WA's logo should be their own logo, but shouldn't be too far removed as to be unrecognisable from the iconic NthSyd logo (ie: not that CC Bears logo, nor the original incarnations of NthSyd's bear logos). It needs to be a modern, new take on that bear-head emblem. Any logo ideas that I've mocked up (have I shared them all in here? I don't remember!) have had these points firmly in mind.
* WA's colours should be red and black, yes, but another would be a good move. Obviously gold/yellow makes the most sense and would look great.
* WA's jerseys should be unique and their own, however elements from NthSyd's more famous and popular jerseys could certainly be included. And of course there's always room for heritage kits (as every NRL club these days have about a hundred different kits per year, including training kits and game-day warm-up kits, ect).

Again, for what my opinion's worth.

Agree with this part.

Respectfully, I don't know if The Dolphins are a good example. There's quite a disconnect between both brands and a lot of people still don't get the need to establish a completely separate entity, not to mention how unpopular it has been to omit Redcliffe from the name. I know it's not a big leap for Redcliffe supporters, but there's already going to be a big enough leap for Bears supporters.

NS being further removed from WA than what Redcliffe is to Suncorp shouldn't be a reason to justify a disconnect. If it's not executed more closely to the Swans then they may as well not do it at all.

Great points.

I haven't seen anything from any official channel saying this is not a relocation or not a continuation of the Bears.

Most clubs have moved to a simple digital/screen friendly design with just a main icon and name rather than the old cluttered badge or shield design.

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Even the shield logos have a version of those logos without the shield.

I can see both points. theres a genuinely great middle ground somewhere there.

The middle ground it he Nuke's suggestion but a continuation of the clubs history and/or brand.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

has anyone bothered asking @Red&BlackBear what the intent is for this prospective club? logos, admin, board, colours, etc Because seems like he is literally the only poster with genuine intel.

 

[Maximus]

Why would WA want to take on the history of a team that has won nothing but wooden spoons for over 100 years?

 

[Perth Red]

Why would WA want to take on the history of a team that has won nothing but wooden spoons for over 100 years?

It doesnt, Vlandy's does.
And we are stuck with it so best try and make the best of it.

 

[Centy Coast]

Why would WA want to take on the history of a team that has won nothing but wooden spoons for over 100 years?

Oh Maxipad, you clearly don’t know your rugby league, North Sydneys last season was 1999, they last claimed a wooden spoon in 1979, before that was 1951 , 1908-1999 = 9 wooden spoons in total, so for the dummies that is one wooden spoon for every ten years that the Bears existed.
Parramatta have won plenty more wooden spoons (14) and have only been in the competition since 1947, the Western Suburbs Magpies hold the most wooden spoons (18).

 

[Wb1234]

Oh Maxipad, you clearly don’t know your rugby league, North Sydneys last season was 1999, they last claimed a wooden spoon in 1979, before that was 1951.
Parramatta have won plenty more wooden spoons and have only been in the competition since 1947, the Western Suburbs Magpies hold the most wooden spoons.

Misery guts is complaining about something that is already a done deal

He will still be sooking when they are in the nrl

 

[T to the T]

V'landys on NRL360 being interviewed just then and regarding WA expansion he said "it's going to happen quickly". Only mentioned downing tools during election, the leaks weren't from the NRL and that ball is now in WA's court after that.

 

[Maximus]

Oh Maxipad, you clearly don’t know your rugby league, North Sydneys last season was 1999, they last claimed a wooden spoon in 1979, before that was 1951 , 1908-1999 = 9 wooden spoons in total.
Parramatta have won plenty more wooden spoons (14) and have only been in the competition since 1947, the Western Suburbs Magpies hold the most wooden spoons (18).

Other than wooden spoons, what have the Bears won in the last 100 years?