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Wayne Bennett to finish up at St George

thommo4pm

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, your opinion comes from a position of naivety. Being the petulant child that you are, it wouldn't occur to you that you are an ambassador for yourself and the people you represent in the way you conduct yourself towards others.

Just as the English are judged by many on their hooligans stamping their way around the World, your actions and words effect how people view you and the things you stand for.

You stand for Souths, you represent them in your own way on these forums.

As I can't stand your attitude - such as declaring truths about the future, when it is unwritten, I will enjoy in my own little way your discomfort if and when Souths get beaten.

If you showed some common sense and some humility, then I might once again change my mind. You're relatively articulate and I know you're not stupid. You just choose to act like a moron towards others and being blessed with brains and then acting like a knob end, is worse than acting like a knob end when you're as thick as pig sh*t.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.
Thanks to BM, I can honestly say this year I hope the Roosters give Souths a beating, and just about all other clubs do also.
 

SEAT 1A

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The Souths rumor may be one the money by the fact that Russell Crowe has not said a word about Wayne coming to Souths. If true it must be killing him. :lol:
 

Loudstrat

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Building a new team in Perth?

Na, Wayne has done that.

haha, loudtwat, Wayne has built a team from nothing, are you denying this?
Wayne was the inaugural coach of a team amassed by Barry Maranta, because Senator Ron paid the big $ to keep the QLD Origin side in the RL.

So maybe Wayne "built" the team, but it was all delivered on site.

And to answer your question, he did NOT do it in Perth ffs!

Was St George the biggest challenge in the comp in 08? From everything we've heard he's after the acheivement of "premierships with 3 clubs", the final thing he needs to firmly make him the greatest coach ever. The degree of difficulty will not make it more attractive to him. He's after a premiership with a club not named "Brisbane" or "St George".
To become the greatest coach in history he has to win 4 straught with Saints. Jack Gibson only went back to back -once he found the squad, he KEPT them at the top. Found the squad in 74, backed up in 75. Found it again in 81, backed it up again in 82 and 83. Bennet only wet back to back once (92-93) and in 94 lost because his team didn't know what a penalty goal was.

Gibson coached for 15 years for 5 premierships from 6 grand finals with Saints, Easts and Parra. Bennet has coached for 24 years for 6 premierships from 7 grand finals (if we leave out the asterisk) with Canberra, Brisbane and Saints. The difference is that the Saints Gibson had wasn't class across the board like the Saints that Bennet had. And Bennet at Canberra was co-coached, and at the beginning of their dynasty. Gibbo had Saints between dynastes.

Gibson also coached poor clubs with little chance of sucess. At Newtown he won their only club championship. Ironically, the only time he won LESS than 50% of games was at Souths.

If St George remain premiers until the kickoff of the 2015 comp with Bennet as coach, only then will he be better than Jack Gibson.

I hope Saints can retain Bennett for 2012 , my preference for 2012 is Bellamy for Souths.
 

Fingerbang

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Not wanting to start an argument with you Loudstrat, but Bennett taking on a Dragon's team with class across the board? A lot of people still predicted the Dragons to miss the top 8 in 2009, Bennett's first year. Many laughed at Bennett recruiting Weyman, Big Nev and a few others. Laughed at him for letting certain players go. And the big one, Dragons won't ever win a grand final while Hornby is the halfback.

You will never convince me that Bennett was not responsible for the Dragon's efforts over the last 2 seasons. The recruiting, the defence like we Dragon's fans had not seen for a long time, all Bennett's doing. Certainly not the team from 2008 that he took over from Brownie.
 

The 18th Man

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If St George remain premiers until the kickoff of the 2015 comp with Bennet as coach, only then will he be better than Jack Gibson.

:lol: Oh come on its getting ridiculous. The bar keeps getting set higher for those who dare threaten those from yesteryear.
 

BunniesMan

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To become the greatest coach in history he has to win 4 straught with Saints. Jack Gibson only went back to back -once he found the squad, he KEPT them at the top. Found the squad in 74, backed up in 75. Found it again in 81, backed it up again in 82 and 83. Bennet only wet back to back once (92-93) and in 94 lost because his team didn't know what a penalty goal was.

Gibson coached for 15 years for 5 premierships from 6 grand finals with Saints, Easts and Parra. Bennet has coached for 24 years for 6 premierships from 7 grand finals (if we leave out the asterisk) with Canberra, Brisbane and Saints. The difference is that the Saints Gibson had wasn't class across the board like the Saints that Bennet had. And Bennet at Canberra was co-coached, and at the beginning of their dynasty. Gibbo had Saints between dynastes.

Gibson also coached poor clubs with little chance of sucess. At Newtown he won their only club championship. Ironically, the only time he won LESS than 50% of games was at Souths.

If St George remain premiers until the kickoff of the 2015 comp with Bennet as coach, only then will he be better than Jack Gibson.
And I thought you couldn't get any dumber. Every one of Bennett's premierships count for 2 of Gibson's. Gibson never had to worry about a salary cap in his time. The salary cap has made it so much harder to maintain success, and for Bennett to regularly win premierships over the last 20 years is a bigger acheivement than what Gibson did.

And just wait till he wins yet again in Redfern. There shouldn't be a debate know, but even for the mentally challenged the debate will be over when he gets a premierships with us.

I've also heard that the Knights and Bulldogs have confirmed they are happy with their own coaches. He's coming to Redfern. Every article about the issue now goes out of its way to say we are the favourites. The deal is as good as done.

I wonder, if I am proven right and he does come to Souths, everyone's head will explode because BunniesMan was right yet again.
 

The 18th Man

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Bennett to Souths does has a nice ring to it. I like the idea. It's an attractive proposition for all involved and as a reporter wrote somewhere today, it would be likened to the Dallas Cowboys days when Jimmy Johnson was hired by the big spending-win-at-all-costs Jerry Jones. I am not sure why there is such a big fuss over any touted move to the red and green.

I cannot see Souths winning the competition in 2011 under Lang, I can see them doing something really special being coached by Bennett for three years or more.

Reluctantly I am starting to agree with BunniesMan whereby most disagree with his opinion if only because it's he who is posting it. Thats fine, it adds to post/thread counts, though it has created many un-necessary debates from where I sit (even signatures dedicated to the guy LMFAO!).
 

rnb11

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No Bunniesman, wrong. Stop twisting words to make your argument sound better. The Knights said if Tinkler did not take over next month they will re-sign Rick Stone. If Tinkler does take over, they'll be going after a big name coach which very well may be Bennett. So in short, Souths have approximately 30 days to lock him up before Newcastle come along and offer him one very sexy contract.
 

BunniesMan

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No Bunniesman, wrong. Stop twisting words to make your argument sound better. The Knights said if Tinkler did not take over next month they will re-sign Rick Stone. If Tinkler does take over, they'll be going after a big name coach which very well may be Bennett. So in short, Souths have approximately 30 days to lock him up before Newcastle come along and offer him one very sexy contract.
The chase will be over in less than 30 days. I actually think he's already chosen Souths but even if he hasn't it will be wrapped up well before the season starts. Bennett won't let the speculation drag on into the season.
 

Juju

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The chase will be over in less than 30 days. I actually think he's already chosen Souths but even if he hasn't it will be wrapped up well before the season starts. Bennett won't let the speculation drag on into the season.
I think I just worked out Bunniesman's secret source. He's in the same special needs unit as Wayne's son
 

perverse

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The chase will be over in less than 30 days. I actually think he's already chosen Souths but even if he hasn't it will be wrapped up well before the season starts. Bennett won't let the speculation drag on into the season.
Bennett isn't one to be pressured by the media, and that's exactly what is happening here, for one reason or another.
 

BunniesMan

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Bennett isn't one to be pressured by the media, and that's exactly what is happening here, for one reason or another.
I don't mean he won't let it drag on because the media said "don't drag it out". I mean he'll do it for the sake of his players, his current club and his next club.

If it goes into the season, his future club has trouble recruiting players, his current club has trouble retaining players, his players might get distracted by the speculation etc etc etc.
 

perverse

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I don't mean he won't let it drag on because the media said "don't drag it out". I mean he'll do it for the sake of his players, his current club and his next club.

If it goes into the season, his future club has trouble recruiting players, his current club has trouble retaining players, his players might get distracted by the speculation etc etc etc.
he waited until late march/early april to announce he was going to the Dragons.
 

Loudstrat

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:lol: Oh come on its getting ridiculous. The bar keeps getting set higher for those who dare threaten those from yesteryear.

Shall we lower it just for wayne? How about winning the srcum stats in the Charity shield?

To be better than someone who won three in a row, you have to win 4 in a row. Simple.

And I thought you couldn't get any dumber. Every one of Bennett's premierships count for 2 of Gibson's. Gibson never had to worry about a salary cap in his time. The salary cap has made it so much harder to maintain success, and for Bennett to regularly win premierships over the last 20 years is a bigger acheivement than what Gibson did.
The salary cap helped Bennet at Brisbane in 3 ways. First, they were the only club that didn't have to include reserve grade in the cap. Second, lower cost of living in Brisbane compared to Sydney was a key bargaining point then - as in Dale Shearer telling Manly officials that he couldn't afford to live there. And Third, lots of third party payments - dressed up as players business investments.

In fact, if you wanna compare premierships, Gibson went back to back against the test pack in 82/83. From memory, Saints pack a decade later had 3 internationals, and none from the backs?

I haven't checked, but neither Easts or Parra under Gibson regularly had 11 test/origin players. I do recall that many in the media laughed at the pack Gibson amassed at Parra in 1981. I do recall Greg Hartley and Peter Peters saying that if Parra won the comp with Bob O'Reilly and Kevin Stevens in the pack they would walk from Wollongong to Newcastle in thongs.

Peters got his first blister just south of Bulli.
And just wait till he wins yet again in Redfern. There shouldn't be a debate know, but even for the mentally challenged the debate will be over when he gets a premierships with us.
Obviously we have to. In fact, I have been waiting since Sonia McMahon had firm tits for ANYONE to win again at Redfern.

I've also heard that the Knights and Bulldogs have confirmed they are happy with their own coaches. He's coming to Redfern. Every article about the issue now goes out of its way to say we are the favourites. The deal is as good as done.

I wonder, if I am proven right and he does come to Souths, everyone's head will explode because BunniesMan was right yet again.
BunniesMan was wrong when he thought drinking Cruisers, waxing your chest and listening to autotune-laden sook music proved that he was heterosexual.
 

The 18th Man

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Shall we lower it just for wayne? How about winning the srcum stats in the Charity shield?

To be better than someone who won three in a row, you have to win 4 in a row. Simple.

So Mal Meninga is a better rugby league coach given he gets it done at the highest level winning five Origin series in a row? Jack only one the one title in two attempts from memory and suffered a 3-0 loss to a Beetson coached QLD side.
 

Wrong_Number

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My old man was good friends with the late Jack Gibson and even concedes Wayne is now the greatest rugby league of all time after last year's effort.
But only just he tells me.
I guess we just find it out hard to let go of the past and how dare someone take over Jack Gibson as the best coach of all time
 
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