We could've had Wayne Bennett as coach, we opted for Ivan Cleary

[BxTom]

Hey Daz, do you know if Gus is staying or going?

I was wondering the same thing. It's a case of the exec putting their nose in again. 5 years of crap ahead...

 

[Panther_Daz]

Hey Daz, do you know if Gus is staying or going?

I don't know the answer but if I was to guess, this year will be his last.

 

[TheFrog]

It is so dumb all round. 2 years under Bennett would finish off the player development

His side needed a 9-1 penalty count to get past the Titans. There is very little point in conjecture over what might have been, we've got what we've got now.

 

[franklin2323]

His side needed a 9-1 penalty count to get past the Titans. There is very little point in conjecture over what might have been, we've got what we've got now.

nope but beat 2 top 8 teams from last year comfortably...Meanwhile we don't improve each week and had an easy draw to start the year

 

[TheFrog]

I don't know the answer but if I was to guess, this year will be his last.

This is really the only way the Ivan Cleary signing makes sense.

 

[Panther_Daz]

This is really the only way the Ivan Cleary signing makes sense.

Could you see Ivan replacing Gus and someone like Ciraldo becoming head coach?

 

[TheFrog]

Could you see Ivan replacing Gus and someone like Ciraldo becoming head coach?

That is exactly how it looks.

 

[franklin2323]

Could you see Ivan replacing Gus and someone like Ciraldo becoming head coach?

That is the best result for all

 

[Panther_Daz]

That is exactly how it looks.

I just don't know if Ivan Cleary has the right skills to deal with the likes of player managers, sponsors, politicians etc on a daily basis.

 

[Mr Angry]

lol Gus and his ego..

The Broncos did not want Smith either, won nothing the whole time he has played.

 

[Das Hassler]

I just don't know if Ivan Cleary has the right skills to deal with the likes of player managers, sponsors, politicians etc on a daily basis.

If you go back and look at the ( still quite hard to believe) trainwreck way he handled his exit from WT then the answer would be a resounding no....deserved or not he did his personal credibility a massive amount of harm...not for leaving ...most understand the father / son thing but all aspects of the way he went about it ( his trembling hands prepared WT commitment / no questions press conference the saddest example) have shown his high water mark and any higher he'd be drowning.

 

[Bob]

If you go back and look at the ( still quite hard to believe) trainwreck way he handled his exit from WT then the answer would be a resounding no....deserved or not he did his personal credibility a massive amount of harm...not for leaving ...most understand the father / son thing but all aspects of the way he went about it ( his trembling hands prepared WT commitment / no questions press conference the saddest example) have shown his high water mark and any higher he'd be drowning.

Maybe it’s time you built a bridge and got over Ivan leaving ffs

 

[Das Hassler]

Maybe it’s time you built a bridge and got over Ivan leaving ffs

You couldnt be further off the mark...i'm well and trully over him leaving quite awhile back. Just a view of the subject at hand without the understandable emotion of (some of) the Panthers posters on Ivan / Guss / Bennett etc
You really shouldnt be trying to read people from their posts...you don't seem to be very good at it

 

[chrisD]

Wallace was about over the hill when he was made hooker and by the end was playing with one knee duct taped together. With all the time in the world to sort out a replacement here we are starting the season without a first grade hooker. I suppose they thought one of Egan or Katoa would come along, and that really is the crux of all our problems. We backed the wrong coach and the wrong players. Gould backed the wrong coach and the wrong players. So if he goes I'm not going to be upset anymore, he did squander one premiership window and maybe someone else deserves a chance to put together the next. Though him leaving does invite the risk of a return to the Burns inside ball to Newton days.

 

[age.s]

Given Gus apparently had no say in the coach, can we say how much influence he had on recruitment?

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Could you see Ivan replacing Gus and someone like Ciraldo becoming head coach?

I had orginally thought this went it all went down late last year.

 

[TheFrog]

I just don't know if Ivan Cleary has the right skills to deal with the likes of player managers, sponsors, politicians etc on a daily basis.

At least he won't get into a feud with the coach.

 

[Pomoz]

He was horrible on so many fronts for the Knights. Ripped the guts out of the junior pathways. Wouldn't allow the team to engage with the local community.

Newey and the riff are very similar. Both feed off local committment, juniors, and engagement with the community.

Bennett almost single handedly destroyed the joint.

Some facts would be nice. They had a CEO with no experience and no idea. A benefactor bouncing cheque’s and you say it was Bennett’s fault. The man who is the most successful coach in the NRL, ever. A man famous for continually bringing juniors through the system and producing rep players and you say he destroyed the junior pathways. Do you have any facts to support this?

 

[Pomoz]

That is the best result for all

No the best result for all is we hire Bennett.

 

[Pomoz]

Wallace was about over the hill when he was made hooker and by the end was playing with one knee duct taped together. With all the time in the world to sort out a replacement here we are starting the season without a first grade hooker. I suppose they thought one of Egan or Katoa would come along, and that really is the crux of all our problems. We backed the wrong coach and the wrong players. Gould backed the wrong coach and the wrong players. So if he goes I'm not going to be upset anymore, he did squander one premiership window and maybe someone else deserves a chance to put together the next. Though him leaving does invite the risk of a return to the Burns inside ball to Newton days.

You need to read the preceding commentary. Gus backed Bennett not Cleary. WTF was our idiot board thinking?