We don't need a Stormy night!

[The EELiminator]

i blame ozzie for this crappy weather he tempted fate with that 'stormy night' title you dont need it but you've got it mate hehe

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes that would be called modern day rugby league, and how to win a premiership.

I know it is.

That's why I blamed the rules.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Their are many good people sitting on the sidelines waiting for an IC instead of lining Ruperts pockets. The wealth will be there.

Whose doing the background checks to be sure all members of the commission are not compromised??????
The cabal is notorious for its plants!!!!!!
"We Will Lead Every Revolution Against Us"..........

At first impression it might appear Casper is going over the top, but he ain't.....

There IS a concerted effort by the cabal to destroy the heart of Rugby League. Defections by K Hunt, I Folau & possibly G Inglis to AFL say a lot. They are the painful symptoms of this destruction that is the cancer of the cabal's intent spreading throughout RL.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Powerful individuals and forces are making enormous fortunes out of the ruin of Australia." B. A. Santamaria[/FONT] (14th August 1915 - 25th February 1998), Australian political activist and journalist

I now twist the words slightly...........

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Powerful individuals and forces are making enormous fortunes out of the ruin of Australian Rugby League.[/FONT]

An invading army conquers another country and puts in place its force to control all the resources of that nation which determines its final outcome. The same occurs with big business takeovers. What do you think is happening to Rugby League??? The Cabal have complete control over AFL. AFL does not have the working class roots of rebellion RL has. The cabal are notorious for payback. Remember the cabal completely control RU and Cricket.

Keep in brain Australian Rugby League (particularly Melb Storm & Super League) when you read this.....

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance." - James Madison[/FONT] 4th President USA (1809 1817)

and this one................

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson (Attributed) 3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)"The cabal are masters of gradualism, the chaos of gradual capitulation blamed on anything that appears normal while the fans of RL are completely left in the dark, not realising the hidden hands of the secret cabal pulling at the strings forming the fabric of RL. The fraying blamed on economic circumstances (survival of the fittest - dog eats dog) and RL fans sit back waiting for others (the cabal = "they") to fix the problem "what are they going to do about it". Obviously, "they" do sweet f.a. Why would they, they invaded RL to destroy it!!!!

Keep in brain the NRL (Australian Rugby League) when you read this....

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"[/FONT]It (the Great Depression) was not accidental; it was a carefully contrived occurrence. The international Bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all." - U.S. Congressman Louis McFadden[/FONT] 1932

How many are really waking up to what is going on??? And are they prepared to do something about it because this great game is now in great danger? To destroy this game from within, yes, the cabal is finding it harder than they originally first thought and is the primary reason Casper joined this Eels forum to find ways of waking up those that can be reached, and inspire them to do something about it before it is too late. Is anyone listening???????

After President Woodrow Wilson permitted the US Federal Reserve (owned by this European cabal) to take control of creating the nations money Christmas eve 1913, and near the time of his death he said this "I have unwittingly ruined my country". (now how many good men/women involved in RL will be saying this when they wake up one day to realise what has become of their once great game???? - what about the present directors of the NRL??? and what about the present directors & ceo's of all NRL clubs including NSWRL, Country RL & Qld RL????)

President Woodrow Wilson also said this......(I inserted NRL & sport/sports to explain my view on this terrible predicament)........

"A great industrial Nation (NRL) is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the Nation, (NRL) therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reasons of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom." "We (NRL) have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments (sports) in the world - no longer a Government (a sport) by free opinion, no longer a Government (a sport) by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government (a sport) by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men". (Just before he died, Wilson is reported to have stated to friends that he had been "deceived" and that "I have betrayed my Country". He referred to the Federal Reserve Act passed during his Presidency.)

Who do you think controls the money and the mainstream media that impacts RL, ARL, RU, Cricket etc??? This cabal controls both economic recessions/depressions and inflation. This money is water to plants (nations, corporations, industries, enterprises, sports, etc). The cabal impacts which of these RL, ARL, RU experiences inflation (has more $$$$ to compete, the plants get watered and thus they grow & prosper) and recession/depression (has little or no $$$$$ to compete, the plants get no water and thus they wilt and die) >>>>> K Hunt, I Folau, G Inglis, overseas defections, etc... the list of fraying is huge now. Whose next J Hayne, B Slater, C Smith, etc, etc????

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than the aristocracy, more selfish than the bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes." Abraham Lincoln 16th president of the USA[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Give me the right to issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who governs the country.” [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Meyer Amschal Rothschild, International banker

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“It is well enough that the people of this nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Those that create and issue the money and credit, direct the policies of government and hold in their hands the destiny of the people." Richard McKenna, former president of the Midlands Bank of England[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are U.S. government institutions. They are private credit monopolies; domestic swindlers, rich and predatory money lenders which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers. The Federal Reserve banks are the agents of the foreign central banks. The truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States by the arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board.” Congressman Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, addressed the House on June 10, 1932. 75 Congressional Record 12595-12603

[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"The Federal Reserve banks are privately owned, locally controlled, separate corporations." Who says so? In Lewis v. United States, the Ninth Circuit Court says so. (June 24, 1982)

Other quotes can be found here: http://www.itwillpass.com/quotes_bank_quotes.shtml

Note: The Australian Reserve Bank is privately owned and controlled by overseas interests as is New Limited (Fox), etc --- who is next??????
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[Poupou Escobar]

The most effective people, Casper, have the closest to perfect convergence between their sphere of interest and their sphere of interest.

While it is every person's duty (to themselves) to increase their sphere of influence, such is not always possible. What is always possible, other than for the mentally ill or the emotionally immature, is to bring their sphere of interest in line with their sphere of influence.

My advice to all young players is to not let the illusion of freedom and democracy fool them into thinking they can change the world. Especially when most of them struggle to change themselves.

Should we care that the strong rule the weak? That's how it works in nature and that's how it has always worked in human society.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Tapestry Mark?

Tapestry,

ISSN 1445-3736

The name of the publications.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

The most effective people, Casper, have the closest to perfect convergence between their sphere of interest and their sphere of interest.

While it is every person's duty (to themselves) to increase their sphere of influence, such is not always possible. What is always possible, other than for the mentally ill or the emotionally immature, is to bring their sphere of interest in line with their sphere of influence.

My advice to all young players is to not let the illusion of freedom and democracy fool them into thinking they can change the world. Especially when most of them struggle to change themselves.

Should we care that the strong rule the weak? That's how it works in nature and that's how it has always worked in human society.

Hi Poupou,
There is a huge difference between maintaining the perfection of a dream for the benefit of all and destroying the dream to the detriment of all. While nature maintains the perfection of the dream of nature, taking the life out of the MAN destroys the dream of life. There is nothing natural about being down trodden or about some being more equal than others. Life (nature) is a team effort, not a sport for individuals or capitalists; how would any football team do if each player played for himself rather than the good of the team? Instead of the sun shining its rays outwards for the benefit of all of life the rays turn back on self turning the sun into a black hole void of life. Therefore, everything in relationship to the sun will die. Nature does not operate like that. So yes, I do care about self-centeredness because self-centeredness is the basis of all greed, selfishness, power and control trips. There is nothing natural about self-centeredness (me, me, me, i, i, i, mine, mine, mine) and if left unchecked will consume (destroy) all of life until all is dark.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You can still be self-centred while recognising you need other people - that's why the capitalists gave us a 40 hour working week and enough pay to be able to afford to buy all the crap they make.

On top of that all humans have interpersonal relationships - people they care about that they are willing to make sacrifices for.

Nothing has changed in this area mate. Your predictions of doom and gloom rest on some shaky assumptions.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

You can still be self-centred while recognising you need other people - that's why the capitalists gave us a 40 hour working week and enough pay to be able to afford to buy all the crap they make.

On top of that all humans have interpersonal relationships - people they care about that they are willing to make sacrifices for.

Nothing has changed in this area mate. Your predictions of doom and gloom rest on some shaky assumptions.

That's where compassion, empathy, conscience, Do No Harm, "Community Immunity", all men are equal, etc, comes into the picture to be sure that doom and gloom does not eventuate. It's what we can do here & now that I focus on Poupou, rather than on passing the buck and leaving it to others. Recent history is full of doom and gloom because either most were too blind to see the headlights coming around the bend very fast or had passed the buck until it was too late to do anything. Life is in the image of our making and that image is our present thoughts and feelings.

Whoever controls how others think & feel & causes them to act on these feelings & thoughts is given all the power by those whose thoughts & feelings are controlled. Slaves willingly create a world in their masters image.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Slaves willingly create a world in their masters image.

So don't be a slave. Duh.

And if you must be a slave, be the best one you can be and then it's all free rides on the gravy train.

 

[sportive cupid]

It wasn't the Capitalists that gave us the 40 hour week-it was the collective forces of the Labour movement (ie the Socialists)
It is the Capitalists with their illusions of the attractiveness individualism that work to supress the human spirit .They lead the weak to think that the liberty of the individual is the greatest thing -and yet all the while seek only to divide and conquer.
Man is only human when he works together with those who also identify as human.It is not the the weak are inevitably slave to the powerful.It is that the powerful have managed to hoodwink the powerless that they have no power unless they are individuals.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

So don't be a slave. Duh.

And if you must be a slave, be the best one you can be and then it's all free rides on the gravy train.

There are no free rides on the gravy train. The gravy train system of commerce (civilisation of commerce) most live/are forced under (no child was provided with full disclosure) is based on Admiralty Law which is contract law and all contract law is based on copyright (the right of copy). Everyone is a renter of the powers that be (PTB) copyrighted intellectual property and the PTB have an "interest" in all their renters (serfs/commoners/labourers/slaves/goi). No freedom there.

Only with natural law do we have the freedom you are suggesting. Even common law is based on commerce and copyright and trial by jury is almost completely done with now. Everyone performing in the system of commerce is under statute law (contract legalese/law). No freedom there either.

We are all severely compromised by the system. Even with waking up to what is really going on and without having a large community/tribe who live to care for each other (without the system - returning to natural law/creators law) as a support ("community immunity") to fall back on, our family is still tied to this system. We often refer to this system as the beast of the apocalypse.

We are all bound by invisible chains that stem out of the intellectual property we rent from the PTB. Their "STATE" and their "FEDERAL" and their "CROWN", etc, are not what they seem to be. Many a dangerous highly toxic poison is hidden, packaged, presented "nicely" and called a sweet. Politicians kiss babies... and judges are protectors of freedom ----- free--dum (dumb) legalese LOL :lol::lol::lol:

"There are many slaves fighting to wear their manacles and
protesting vigorously whenever someone tries to loosen them."

Also, every aspect of the system and performance in/for the system represents destruction/harm to reality (nature/life). The expansion of destruction is insanely crafted as the word "progress". That metaphor of "Emperor Nero and Rome Burning" comes to brain. In our modern demonstration of freedom we are actually killing the very source of life that gives us life.

It wasn't the Capitalists that gave us the 40 hour week-it was the collective forces of the Labour movement (ie the Socialists)

It is the Capitalists with their illusions of the attractiveness individualism that work to suppress the human spirit. They lead the weak to think that the liberty of the individual is the greatest thing -and yet all the while seek only to divide and conquer.

Man is only human when he works together with those who also identify as human. It is not the the weak are inevitably slave to the powerful. It is that the powerful have managed to hoodwink the powerless that they have no power unless they are individuals.

Totally agree. All I will add is the socialists, communists, capitalists, individualism, etc, are all abominations of the PTB. All are used as tools to engineer chaos so the PTB can provide the order (the cure/the remedy) to their orchestrated chaos = divide and rule. Individualism is a huge part of this divide and rule.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Hey you're preaching to the perverted here mate.

I think freedom is a terrible idea. Or rather, it's a nice idea, but in reality it means 'the freedom to be frightened, hungry and alone'.

You can complain about the system but that's like a child telling their parents they didn't ask to be born. Or like a pot blaming the potter. ;-)

You are who you are because of the system. It's a bit disingenuous to then whinge about it.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Hey you're preaching to the perverted here mate.

I think freedom is a terrible idea. Or rather, it's a nice idea, but in reality it means 'the freedom to be frightened, hungry and alone'.

You can complain about the system but that's like a child telling their parents they didn't ask to be born. Or like a pot blaming the potter. ;-)

You are who you are because of the system. It's a bit disingenuous to then whinge about it.

:lol::lol:

The system is a fiction (a fairytale) that is a dead-corpse, requiring the living to perform on its behalf. Dead-corpses can't walk, talk, think, feel, eat, sleep, poo, wee, contemplate, rejoice, co-create, negotiate, contract, etc. To create a physical, material, intellectual form of the dead-corpse requires destruction to the living and without the living the fiction cannot be. So what does not come naturally is forced upon us and must be accepted as "the norms" otherwise consequences of force will apply if you do not comply, while what does come naturally must be ignored, rejected, ridiculed, etc, and must be demonised.

So what is normal is now abnormal and what is abnormal is now normal. Without full disclosure, the abnormal is forced upon us and we are told that we are not normal when we reject what is abnormal. Sounds perverted to me...

It's interesting that what is abnormal always needs to be enforced whereas what is normal comes for free without a fee (no conditions/contracts attached).

You say "I think freedom is a terrible idea. Or rather, it's a nice idea, but in reality it means 'the freedom to be frightened, hungry and alone'." The key words here are "in reality" meaning that you base your 'nice idea' point of view about freedom from within what is abnormal!!! Remember, its within what is abnormal comes the statement 'the freedom to be frightened, hungry and alone' and "complain about the system but that's like a child telling their parents they didn't ask to be born. Or like a pot blaming the potter."

This beggars the question.. how can we find freedom within chaos?

Obviously from your perspective, freedom is only found within the chaos (poverty, starvation, homelessness, sickness, disease, fear, stress, trauma, rape, pillage, plunder, distrust, greed, selfishness, power & control trips, war, police state, big-brother surveillance and enforcement, terrorism, etc) and who can't find freedom in chaos is abnormal and needs to see a psychiatrist!!!

Do the perverted come in many shapes, styles and colours?

Is there a perverted natural?

How would freedom be perceived and defined if your point of view was derived from your life based within what is normal???

 

[Gronk]

FFS <bangs head against wall, stabs himself in the eyes with a pen>

 

[Poupou Escobar]

:lol::lol:

The system is a fiction (a fairytale) that is a dead-corpse, requiring the living to perform on its behalf.

Mate, if it's capable of making you complain about it it's hardly a 'dead-corpse'.

Or do you make a habit of allowing dead things to make you unhappy.

Dead-corpses can't walk, talk, think, feel, eat, sleep, poo, wee, contemplate, rejoice, co-create, negotiate, contract, etc.

But they can spout a million political tirades from disaffected uni students. How does something so helpless have so much power?

Unless you're being very selective about what is and isn't part of the system.

To create a physical, material, intellectual form of the dead-corpse requires destruction to the living and without the living the fiction cannot be. So what does not come naturally is forced upon us and must be accepted as "the norms" otherwise consequences of force will apply if you do not comply, while what does come naturally must be ignored, rejected, ridiculed, etc, and must be demonised.

Yeh pretty much. I don't see the problem here.

So what is normal is now abnormal and what is abnormal is now normal. Without full disclosure, the abnormal is forced upon us and we are told that we are not normal when we reject what is abnormal. Sounds perverted to me...

I think you're confusing 'normal' with 'natural'.

It's interesting that what is abnormal always needs to be enforced whereas what is normal comes for free without a fee (no conditions/contracts attached).

It's because most humans are neither capable of leading, nor of being self-sufficient.

Therefore they need to be protected and provided for. To facilitate this they need to pull their weight in one way or another, and this is enforced via a system of thinly veiled threats.

It's nothing new and I don't see the problem.

You say "I think freedom is a terrible idea. Or rather, it's a nice idea, but in reality it means 'the freedom to be frightened, hungry and alone'." The key words here are "in reality" meaning that you base your 'nice idea' point of view about freedom from within what is abnormal!!!

Not at all.

I am well aware of my paradigm, and 'normal', 'abnormal' and their many definitions (including mine) all exist within 'reality'.

I certainly don't believe my worldview constitutes the entirety of what is and isn't real.

But some things can't be argued and these are what 'reality' is based upon - the human dimension of this is biological functions like hunger, reproduction and violence.

Anything else is just philosophical bullsh*t. It's a narrative - and will just lead to conflict with anybody who doesn't share that narrative.

 

[strider]

FFS <bangs head against wall, stabs himself in the eyes with a pen>

borrows gronk's pen

 

[Poupou Escobar]

borrows gronk's pen

I know.

Isn't there another forum for people to whinge about the state of the world?

 

[Gronk]

I know.

Isn't there another forum for people to whinge about the state of the world?

Yes go here.

 

[bartman]

:lol:.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Fml