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Week 3 Finals v Melbourne

Iamback

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I’ve said my piece on this subject. The first question on every recruiters lips is
“Can they defend”.
I know this, because I’ve spoken to many over the last few years, from a huge range of clubs.
That’s all I was saying. I even pointed out that it’s definitely not all they look at, but it’s definitely the most important thing, because it demonstrates a players ability to read the game in both defence and attack.

You called bullshit on that and then went on huge long winded rant which was pointless. Like you had an idea.

You get so caught up on your own crap that you forget what was even being discussed.

Again though.

You say recruiters don't recruit unless then can defend, So those that make it to this level can clearly defend.

Or they don't get selected. The rest is coaches preferences as to style etc
 

Luke Bowden

First Grade
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Again though.

You say recruiters don't recruit unless then can defend, So those that make it to this level can clearly defend.

Or they don't get selected. The rest is coaches preferences as to style etc

Defend at the level to which they are being recruited.

The player would have to have some sort of freakish talent in order to get signed if they can’t defend.

And by defend, I’m not talking about the act of tackling, I’m talking about the whole package. Anyone can be taught to tackle.
 

Girds89

Bench
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I’ve said my piece on this subject. The first question on every recruiters lips is
“Can they defend”.
I know this, because I’ve spoken to many over the last few years, from a huge range of clubs.
That’s all I was saying. I even pointed out that it’s definitely not all they look at, but it’s definitely the most important thing, because it demonstrates a players ability to read the game in both defence and attack.

You called bullshit on that and then went on huge long winded rant which was pointless. Like you had an idea.

You get so caught up on your own crap that you forget what was even being discussed.

The fact you think defence is harder to teach than x factor or genuine attacking ability (whatever you want to call it) shows you have no idea..

Franklin made some great points the other day...

None of which you answered and just told people they are wrong again...

Why did we sign alamoti?? Pretty poor defender? Had some absolute shockers this year in defence...

Ivan is defence first as all coaches are... (no suprises there..lol)

Ivan signed him cause the kid has a touch of class about him with the ball in hand, skills that you cant teach, strength, freaky offloads tackling busting etc..... defence needs a heap of work but he can teach that and learn that here.

Yes its important kids can defend... its a very good trait to have as a young player...

Plenty of kids get scouted for defence but the players like carty and your walshs and pongas and masada iosefas and latrells etc dont get sighted for their defence. Whether they can defend or not as kids would not have stopped their respective junior clubs taking a chance on them.

As i mentioned in a previous post, some people are looking just at nrl for examples... if your talking about the recruitmeng of kids than have a look at all the talented kids that dont make it cause they cant get their defence or fitness up to standard... looking at just nrl examples only accounts for the players that make it.... the vast majority dont
 

Iamback

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Defend at the level to which they are being recruited.

The player would have to have some sort of freakish talent in order to get signed if they can’t defend.

And by defend, I’m not talking about the act of tackling, I’m talking about the whole package. Anyone can be taught to tackle.

We are comparing NRL players though.

There wouldn't be a player in our squad who can't defend, So things like squad balance, Adding speed, Size impact goes into team selections.

last week for example we needed hooker coverage and Garner could play centre
 

Iamback

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The discussion is fascinating but either way I'm trusting garner over peachey defending in big games. The team overall will still attack well enough and garner still knows a good line to run when he sees one.

It worked because we moved Crichton. A Gogger/Garner edge double is ordinary in attack
 
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Fangs

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Chins don't let Port Stephens stink up this thread as well he was ruining the Ashes now the prelims.
 

Luke Bowden

First Grade
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The fact you think defence is harder to teach than x factor or genuine attacking ability (whatever you want to call it) shows you have no idea..

Franklin made some great points the other day...

None of which you answered and just told people they are wrong again...

Why did we sign alamoti?? Pretty poor defender? Had some absolute shockers this year in defence...

Ivan is defence first as all coaches are... (no suprises there..lol)

Ivan signed him cause the kid has a touch of class about him with the ball in hand, skills that you cant teach, strength, freaky offloads tackling busting etc..... defence needs a heap of work but he can teach that and learn that here.

Yes its important kids can defend... its a very good trait to have as a young player...

Plenty of kids get scouted for defence but the players like carty and your walshs and pongas and masada iosefas and latrells etc dont get sighted for their defence. Whether they can defend or not as kids would not have stopped their respective junior clubs taking a chance on them.

As i mentioned in a previous post, some people are looking just at nrl for examples... if your talking about the recruitmeng of kids than have a look at all the talented kids that dont make it cause they cant get their defence or fitness up to standard... looking at just nrl examples only accounts for the players that make it.... the vast majority dont
I’m not reading this. It’s far too long and you dribble.

I’ll go back and look at FrNklins post, I clearly missed it.
 

Luke Bowden

First Grade
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We are comparing NRL players though.

There wouldn't be a player in our squad who can't defend, So things like squad balance, Adding speed, Size impact goes into team selections.

last week for example we needed hooker coverage and Garner could play centre
In an NRL setup, players defend In positions, so it’s not as simple as saying that all the players in a squad can defend.

All the players in our squad can catch, pass and run, but you’re not playing big Mose at No.7.

In our structure, Centre is a hard position to defend at, it’s also vitally important.

I personally think Garner did a very decent job there last week. He showed he’s quite a smart player. Some of his reads were impressive.
 

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