Welcome to the comp, Redcliffe.

[xe_kilroy]

Why does Tasmania have to wait five years? Dolphins only had one year to prepare as well.

 

[Perth Red]

Well GWS has had over a decade, surely has helped them

Didnt they make a GF?

 

[Perth Red]

Why does Tasmania have to wait five years? Dolphins only had one year to prepare as well.

Because they know how to do it properly and Tassie needs to build its infrastructure for the clubs introduction.

 

[MugaB]

Didnt they make a GF?

Wow playing pass the flag around

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Looking at the Dolphins first season and they are currently sitting in 5th after almost 10 rounds, will drop to 6th assuming the roosters beat the cowboys.

This is where other expansion teams finished in their first season:

Raiders 1982 14/14
Steelers 1982 13/14

Knights 1988 14/16
Broncos 1988 7/16
Gold Coast 1988 15/16

Cowboys 1995 20/20
Crushers 1995 16/20
Warriors 1995 10/20
Reds 1995 11/20

Storm 1998 3/20

Titans 2007 12/16

The storm the obvious outlier here being the only team to make the finals in their first year (broncos 7th in a final 5 system).

 

[Iamback]

In comparison to Sydney teams, the Titans crowds are above average.

And considering how poor they have been, they are very decent

How many Sydney clubs have a population of 600k to themselves?

 

[Iamback]

Looking at the Dolphins first season and they are currently sitting in 5th after almost 10 rounds, will drop to 6th assuming the roosters beat the cowboys.

This is where other expansion teams finished in their first season:

Raiders 1982 14/14
Steelers 1982 13/14

Knights 1988 14/16
Broncos 1988 7/16
Gold Coast 1988 15/16

Cowboys 1995 20/20
Crushers 1995 16/20
Warriors 1995 10/20
Reds 1995 11/20

Storm 1998 3/20

Titans 2007 12/16

The storm the obvious outlier here being the only team to make the finals in their first year (broncos 7th in a final 5 system).

Yet people on here said they would struggle.

Haven't had a bye yet either. So are actually sitting in top 4 when that evens out

 

[Iamback]

That’s an early call half way into their first year! Let’s see how they have travelled for the first three years before deciding if the one size fits all nrl approach has helped or hindered them.

Except Dolphins have 70 years experience in RL and $200m in assets.

In a huge growth area, only fools thought they would struggle... Not surprise the forum clown like yourself did

 

[greenBV4]

How many Sydney clubs have a population of 600k to themselves?

5.3 million / 8.5 = 623,529

all of them

 

[Iamback]

5.3 million / 8.5 = 623,529

all of them

All of whom besides

Sharks ( Ground Renovations)
Dragons

Averaged more than the 12k GC got to games on the GC last year

BTW GC is actually 735k now.
With only NRL and AFL in town

 

[Canard]

5.3 million / 8.5 = 623,529

all of them

Rekt

 

[Iamback]

Instead of crowd average use per ground.

Magic Round pushes crowd averages up and you don't see the full picture.

 

[mongoose]

All of whom besides

Sharks ( Ground Renovations)
Dragons

Averaged more than the 12k GC got to games on the GC last year

BTW GC is actually 735k now.
With only NRL and AFL in town

Sydney clubs should benefit from away supporters more than non Sydney clubs as well.

 

[Iamback]

Sydney clubs should benefit from away supporters more than non Sydney clubs as well.

True and Titans get higher crowds than Suns, The key is to learn from them and not have Dolphins in the same boat in 10 years

 

[Perth Red]

Except Dolphins have 70 years experience in RL and $200m in assets.

In a huge growth area, only fools thought they would struggle... Not surprise the forum clown like yourself did

Which meant nothing as they had to go out and sign 36 players and a coaching staff from other clubs.

Titans had 4 good years before it went to sht and never recovered

hats off to them though, they are travelling extremely well given the roster they’ve got. They’re already bringing more to the game than half the Sydney clubs.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Which meant nothing as they had to go out and sign 36 players and a coaching staff from other clubs.

Titans had 4 good years before it went to sht and never recovered

hats off to them though, they are travelling extremely well given the roster they’ve got. They’re already bringing more to the game than half the Sydney clubs.

But they're not an expansion club according to you so why would they get concessions?

 

[Perth Red]

But they're not an expansion club according to you so why would they get concessions?

They’re a new club, that’s fine. Even being a non Expansion club they still had to weaken other clubs to put a roster together and continue to do so.

 

[Iamback]

Which meant nothing as they had to go out and sign 36 players and a coaching staff from other clubs.

Titans had 4 good years before it went to sht and never recovered

hats off to them though, they are travelling extremely well given the roster they’ve got. They’re already bringing more to the game than half the Sydney clubs.

Only needing only 36 players is a good outcome.

They played in the QCup GF and the u21's GF last year, Those are the players that will stop them turning into GC.

GC only went for the top. Never had the Pathways set up

 

[greenBV4]

All of whom besides

Sharks ( Ground Renovations)
Dragons

Averaged more than the 12k GC got to games on the GC last year

BTW GC is actually 735k now.
With only NRL and AFL in town

Instead of crowd average use per ground.

Magic Round pushes crowd averages up and you don't see the full picture.

was bored and did a deeper dive

GC v Regular Sydney stadium H/A Averages the last 10 years (since 2012 plus so far this year & not including the covid effected years of 20/21)

Homebush: 17,675
old SFS>SCG>SFS: 16,555
NRL Avg: 15,911
old Parra>WSS: 14,785
Robina: 13,673
Penrith: 13,466
Leichhardt: 13,062
Cronulla: 12,534
Brookvale: 11,972
Kogarah: 11,822
Campbelltown: 10,613

last year was a worst for the GC, taking a larger data set shows over the last decade they've drawn better crowds to their stadium than all but 3 of the 9 regular Sydney stadiums, if anything it shows they are at least on par despite being perennial losers in a city that has a history of struggling sports franchises

and if you go further back to the previous decade from their inception their average gets significantly better

my point is the Titans aren't the low bar everyone always presents them to be, if they could manage a decent run of success I'd wager their crowds would eclipse the smaller Sydney clubs

 

[Iamback]

was bored and did a deeper dive

GC v Regular Sydney stadium H/A Averages the last 10 years (since 2012 plus so far this year & not including the covid effected years of 20/21)

Homebush: 17,675
old SFS>SCG>SFS: 16,555
NRL Avg: 15,911
old Parra>WSS: 14,785
Robina: 13,673
Penrith: 13,466
Leichhardt: 13,062
Cronulla: 12,534
Brookvale: 11,972
Kogarah: 11,822
Campbelltown: 10,613

last year was a worst for the GC, taking a larger data set shows over the last decade they've drawn better crowds to their stadium than all but 3 of the 9 regular Sydney stadiums, if anything it shows they are at least on par despite being perennial losers in a city that has a history of struggling sports franchises

and if you go further back to the previous decade from their inception their average gets significantly better

my point is the Titans aren't the low bar everyone always presents them to be, if they could manage a decent run of success I'd wager their crowds would eclipse the smaller Sydney clubs

Where does that sit as opposed to the Knights, Raiders etc? Compared to the other one town teams. That is really the fairer comparison.