Welcome to the comp, Redcliffe.

[The Great Dane]

They pay the bills

they want Sydney teams they don’t want Canberra

All you do is dodge.

Firstly, that's simplistic to the point of absurdity.

Secondly, what has that got to do with stadia strategy in Sydney?

 

[The Great Dane]

Especially as Canberra is a Regional market and offer less than a metro market does, Though RL's strength is Regional markets can compete with the big cities. Unlike most other sports in the world it is why these comparisons are dumb

I guarantee that every regional team is more valuable to broadcasters than the smaller Sydney sides.

They'd be even more valuable to both broadcasters and the NRL over time if the NRL forced equal coverage, but that's a different discussion.

 

[Wb1234]

All you do is dodge.

Firstly, that's simplistic to the point of absurdity.

Secondly, what has that got to do with stadia strategy in Sydney?

All you do is dodge.

Firstly, that's simplistic to the point of absurdity.

Secondly, what has that got to do with stadia strategy in Sydney?

You said these clubs have been holding the game back when clearly they aren’t

centralised stadia doesn’t work in Sydney

Your complaining about Bruce stadium being in a bad location then want Sydney clubs to move their home games ten times the distance

maybe Canberra should be forced to play games at allianz too lol

 

[The Great Dane]

You said these clubs have been holding the game back when clearly they aren’t

It's undeniable that the smaller Sydney clubs have, and still are to varying extents, holding the game back.

It's so undeniable that I can jump straight to examples so extreme that they'd be unbelievable to other sports and businesses. Like the fact that both the Adelaide Rams and Gold Coast Chargers were kicked out of the comp when they had money in the bank to save failing clubs from Sydney simply because they had better connections within the halls of power of the sport.
That was, and remains, one of the worst most unethical and stupid business decisions in the history of the sports industry in Australia, and it's been almost completely whitewashed from history. It's also just one example among many within RL's history.

There's no denying or justifying it either, but I look forward to your attempt, or you conspicuously ignoring it like you do everything that you'd prefer wasn't true.

centralised stadia doesn’t work in Sydney

It's worked everywhere that it's been tried, and Sydney would be no different.

The lame excuses to prevent it are just that, lame excuses in support of the status quo for the sake of tradition.

Your complaining about Bruce stadium being in a bad location then want Sydney clubs to move their home games ten times the distance

You're clueless...

Travel times aren't one of the issues with Bruce, and a centralised stadium in one of the town centres would address pretty much all the problems Bruce has as a location.

maybe Canberra should be forced to play games at allianz too lol

On paper we are meant to play prelims in Sydney. I'm pretty sure we're meant to play semis there as well, but the NRL may have quietly changed that in the last couple decades.

The NRL hasn't enforced those rules for a while, which is a mistake BTW, but it'd be nobody's fault but our own if they did start taking finals away from Canberra again because of a lack of suitable facilities. I'd support that move in fact, but that's a tangent.

 

[Pippen94]

I guarantee that every regional team is more valuable to broadcasters than the smaller Sydney sides.

They'd be even more valuable to both broadcasters and the NRL over time if the NRL forced equal coverage, but that's a different discussion.

That's why channel 9 prays that raiders don't make grand final every year

 

[Pippen94]

It's undeniable that the smaller Sydney clubs have, and still are to varying extents, holding the game back.

It's so undeniable that I can jump straight to examples so extreme that they'd be unbelievable to other sports and businesses. Like the fact that both the Adelaide Rams and Gold Coast Chargers were kicked out of the comp when they had money in the bank to save failing clubs from Sydney simply because they had better connections within the halls of power of the sport.
That was, and remains, one of the worst most unethical and stupid business decisions in the history of the sports industry in Australia, and it's been almost completely whitewashed from history. It's also just one example among many within RL's history.

There's no denying or justifying it either, but I look forward to your attempt, or you conspicuously ignoring it like you do everything that you'd prefer wasn't true.

It's worked everywhere that it's been tried, and Sydney would be no different.

The lame excuses to prevent it are just that, lame excuses in support of the status quo for the sake of tradition.

You're clueless...

Travel times aren't one of the issues with Bruce, and a centralised stadium in one of the town centres would address pretty much all the problems Bruce has as a location.

On paper we are meant to play prelims in Sydney. I'm pretty sure we're meant to play semis there as well, but the NRL may have quietly changed that in the last couple decades.

The NRL hasn't enforced those rules for a while, which is a mistake BTW, but it'd be nobody's fault but our own if they did start taking finals away from Canberra again because of a lack of suitable facilities. I'd support that move in fact, but that's a tangent.

90's called they tried super league & it failed. Stop wasting ur breath

 

[Pippen94]

You're not wrong, but a team in the nations capital is good for the games overall image, if we could pair that with one from Perth and Adelaide we'd have a stronger claim to "being national" than the AFL does

Game could be national & have to prop up numerous non heartland teams or expand based on what makes game richer & stronger

 

[Wb1234]

It's undeniable that the smaller Sydney clubs have, and still are to varying extents, holding the game back.

It's so undeniable that I can jump straight to examples so extreme that they'd be unbelievable to other sports and businesses. Like the fact that both the Adelaide Rams and Gold Coast Chargers were kicked out of the comp when they had money in the bank to save failing clubs from Sydney simply because they had better connections within the halls of power of the sport.
That was, and remains, one of the worst most unethical and stupid business decisions in the history of the sports industry in Australia, and it's been almost completely whitewashed from history. It's also just one example among many within RL's history.

There's no denying or justifying it either, but I look forward to your attempt, or you conspicuously ignoring it like you do everything that you'd prefer wasn't true.

It's worked everywhere that it's been tried, and Sydney would be no different.

The lame excuses to prevent it are just that, lame excuses in support of the status quo for the sake of tradition.

You're clueless...

Travel times aren't one of the issues with Bruce, and a centralised stadium in one of the town centres would address pretty much all the problems Bruce has as a location.

On paper we are meant to play prelims in Sydney. I'm pretty sure we're meant to play semis there as well, but the NRL may have quietly changed that in the last couple decades.

The NRL hasn't enforced those rules for a while, which is a mistake BTW, but it'd be nobody's fault but our own if they did start taking finals away from Canberra again because of a lack of suitable facilities. I'd support that move in fact, but that's a tangent.

When super league failed and they had to merge back with the arl it must’ve been a painful experience for you

 

[Perth Red]

Game could be national & have to prop up numerous non heartland teams or expand based on what makes game richer & stronger

Politis knows.

 

[The Great Dane]

90's called they tried super league & it failed. Stop wasting ur breath

Address the argument or stop wasting my time.

 

[The Great Dane]

When super league failed and they had to merge back with the arl it must’ve been a painful experience for you

It was painful for most people. I imagine that you celebrated when the game was set back 20 years though, the league had to do something about those pesky out of town teams after all.

Now do you want to have a go at addressing the argument, or are you just here to waste my time as well?

 

[Perth Red]

It was painful for most people. I imagine that you celebrated when the game was set back 20 years though, the league had to do something about those pesky out of town teams after all.

Now do you want to have a go at addressing the argument, or are you just here to waste my time as well?

He buggered off to afl lol

 

[Wb1234]

It was painful for most people. I imagine that you celebrated when the game was set back 20 years though, the league had to do something about those pesky out of town teams after all.

Now do you want to have a go at addressing the argument, or are you just here to waste my time as well?

The game wasn’t set back by the arl. The arl goal was to grow rugby league

I took a lot of joy in the arl taking back control of their game

I’ll get even more joy if foxtel lose the rights

if super league showed you anything is that you can’t have a viable competition in Australia without Sydney

if you don’t like the reality then keep living in the super league dream world

Murdoch spent 500 million and caved in. They even let souths stay in because they realised their error

if the nrl is weak it’s because of the weak regional clubs like yours that can’t compete with the Sydney clubs and can’t attract players from Sydney bc most don’t want to live in Canberra

 

[Perth Red]

if the nrl is weak it’s because of the weak regional clubs like yours that can’t compete with the Sydney clubs and can’t attract players from Sydney bc most don’t want to live in Canberra

just saying

 

[Pippen94]

Address the argument or stop wasting my time.

Superleague died

 

[Wb1234]

just saying
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Good point

Canberra has won a grand final more recently than all those sides

 

[Colk]

Good point

Canberra has won a grand final more recently than all those sides

Is that all you’ve got?

Yes, it is harder to attract players to places like Canberra or Townsville or Newcastle etc but there are other things to factor such as management and development of players.

 

[Wb1234]

Is that all you’ve got?

Yes, it is harder to attract players to places like Canberra or Townsville or Newcastle etc but there are other things to factor such as management and development of players.

Ask Perth red and Dane it’s their argument I’m responding too

 

[Pippen94]

Is that all you’ve got?

Yes, it is harder to attract players to places like Canberra or Townsville or Newcastle etc but there are other things to factor such as management and development of players.

Regional teams draw fly's & not TV viewers.

 

[Wb1234]

Regional teams draw fly's & not TV viewers.

Ah it’s good to have you back