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Well, that's *potentially* the domino effect that the Dolphins have set in motion.

The move by the Dolphins to a predominantly red & black alternate will probably annoy Norths - especially since the "Perth Bears" concept may have seen a red & black & (a little) gold jersey.

Then there's the West Coast Pirates bid itself, who were looking to use red, gold & black - do they press on with a darker shade of gold, or something like a butter-yellow added to red & black, or totally change tack?

I think the Black alternate is a shrewd move by the Dolphins, steering them away from red & white that's Dragons territory in the NRL, and into their own space.

Sure red & white is their Queensland Cup identity, but as a distinction from that - and from existing NRL teams, going dark with mostly red & black for their alternate makes sense to me. Besides, we have a lot of teams that use white alternates, good to see some teams use a dark alternate.. especially if their primary jersey isn't dark.

I was just adding some humour to the thread with the Brisbane Tigers comment.

I agree with all the points you made.

I hope Dolphins make black, red and gold their primary colours. Their new jersey looks great. The black provides contract with the gold being an accent colour.
 

xe_kilroy

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I dont mind a red-gold look, but it has to be done more simplified. Like the 49ers uniform (tho i hate that team).

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Perth Red

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I dont mind a red-gold look, but it has to be done more simplified. Like the 49ers uniform (tho i hate that team).

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yeh id have thought theyd have gone with red white and gold as their colours. Not sure why they've felt the need to include black. No relation to redcliffe or Dolphins.

Im a big fan of a club having a solid colour prominent for home kit and a predominantly white jersey for away kit. Wish all clubs would do it.
 

jim_57

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The Great Dane

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Wouldnt be adverse to using a variation on old western reds kit tbh. Or we could use a reverse psychology and go with Dolphin grey lol

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I'd abandon red altogether if I was Perth.

Yellow gold and black are the unofficial official colours of WA, and the ones most associated with WA. No other major team in Perth are using them, and it's a classic sports colour scheme that isn't being used in the NRL and has a lot of mileage.

So let the Dolphins have red and gold, they got in first and they're wasting it, and lean into your other colours that'll give you a more unique identity by NRL standards anyway.

If Perth are going to imitate any American teams uniforms it shouldn't be San Francisco's, it should be Pittsburgh's-
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jim_57

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I'd abandon red altogether if I was Perth.

Yellow gold and black are the unofficial official colours of WA, and the ones most associated with WA. No other major team in Perth are using them, and it's a classic sports colour scheme that isn't being used in the NRL and has a lot of mileage.

So let the Dolphins have red and gold, they got in first and they're wasting it, and lean into your other colours that'll give you a more unique identity by NRL standards anyway.

If Perth are going to imitate any American teams uniforms it shouldn't be San Francisco's, it should be Pittsburgh's-
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Would using the same colours and the name Pirates cause issues with the MLB team?
 

The Great Dane

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Would using the same colours and the name Pirates cause issues with the MLB team?
Maybe, that would depend on a few things, but particularly the design of the logo. Pittsburgh's logo is a stylised P, so you should be able to work around it and make it very hard for the MLB to argue that the two products could reasonably be confused.

Perth isn't married to the Pirates brand and have been debating whether it's the best way to go anyway. They can change the name as well if needs be, who cares really.

Perth Prospectors, West Coast Warrigals, Fremantle Doctors, Pythons, Sea Lions, etc, etc. There're an endless amount of names with potential for a Perth side, any of which could work with good branding and marketing.
 

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I'd abandon red altogether if I was Perth.

Yellow gold and black are the unofficial official colours of WA, and the ones most associated with WA. No other major team in Perth are using them, and it's a classic sports colour scheme that isn't being used in the NRL and has a lot of mileage.

So let the Dolphins have red and gold, they got in first and they're wasting it, and lean into your other colours that'll give you a more unique identity by NRL standards anyway.

If Perth are going to imitate any American teams uniforms it shouldn't be San Francisco's, it should be Pittsburgh's-
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I like it, i just mentioned they should pick another color but keep the black and yellow, for the WA part of it, but yeah go all the way into it, would be heaps better
 

Perth Red

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I'd abandon red altogether if I was Perth.

Yellow gold and black are the unofficial official colours of WA, and the ones most associated with WA. No other major team in Perth are using them, and it's a classic sports colour scheme that isn't being used in the NRL and has a lot of mileage.

So let the Dolphins have red and gold, they got in first and they're wasting it, and lean into your other colours that'll give you a more unique identity by NRL standards anyway.

If Perth are going to imitate any American teams uniforms it shouldn't be San Francisco's, it should be Pittsburgh's-
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Most clubs stay away from the state or country colours. I think add a splash of red to that ice hockey jersey and it works. Only down side is perth is bloody hot so walking round in black merch isnt going to be much fun and yellow is fashion nah.
 

The Great Dane

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Most clubs stay away from the state or country colours.
That's completely untrue.

Most teams first choice is to pick colours that have some relevance to the market where possible, and many are forced to pick new colours because their preferred colours were already taken by a pre-existing team. WA doesn't have official state colours anyway, so you can't stay away from something that doesn't technically exist.
I think add a splash of red to that ice hockey jersey and it works.
Adding a splash of red to that Penguins jersey would just muddy the brand and cause it to clash directly with Calgary, Chicago, and Ottawa, and with Carolina, New Jersey, and Detroit to varying degrees as well.
They'd be moving from a colour scheme that only clashes with one other team in the league (which is almost inevitable in a league the size of the NHL), to one of the most common colour schemes in the NHL.

The same is true of Perth in the NRL on a smaller scale. Get rid of the red and they've got a totally unique colour scheme that they can corner the market in.
Only down side is perth is bloody hot so walking round in black merch isnt going to be much fun and yellow is fashion nah.
This is just nonsense excuses.

There's solid marketing and branding basis for Perth to move away from red.
 

abc

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Only down side is perth is bloody hot so walking round in black merch isnt going to be much fun and yellow is fashion nah.

Yellow (or gold if you will) is a great fashion color for anyone who has olive or darker skin. Maybe not as great for paler Northern Europeans :)

Also separately, lots of people wear many versions of the West Coast Eagles, Australia ODI/T20, Wallabies, Socceroos, Matildas, Golden State Warriors, Brazil Football Team, etc. teams which are dominant yellow/gold as regular clothing inc. gametime.

I don't think majority yellow/gold will be an issue for folks in Perth fashion wise.
 

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