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siv

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It seems the ARLC are still in damage control mode

And have been since 1995

Seems we dont have anyone who remembers that RL was the first national footprint code after a steady expansion from 1967 to 1995

What worries me we are a potential SL Mk II just waiting to happen
 
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taipan

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So Cronulla,Tigers and Manly are now poorly managed.You have shown yourself not only to be a poor troll, but about 12 months behind the action.1 point

Seriously do a little research, bring yourself up to the real world.
 
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CowboyFuriousFury

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How much longer do we have to wait for the heartland clubs, they been given decades to get it together. It's way too long I mean it's 2016 and no teams in WA/SA is absurd. It's to the point now it which the heartland clubs should fight for themselves as they be given enough money from TV already and it's time to make some progress for once in rugby league.

The constant drain of money from the heartland clubs is because of there incompetence and should stop holding the game down from expanding once more.
 
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Billythekid

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taipan said:
So Cronulla,Tigers and Manly are now poorly managed.You have shown yourself not only to be a poor troll, but about 12 months behind the action.1 point

Seriously do a little research, bring yourself up to the real world.
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Are you suggesting that the tigers and manly aren't poorly managed? What in the last 12 months would change his opinion on that? Many Sydney clubs (and NRL clubs in general) have been run like sh*t for decades and some still are or have only recently got their act together.

Manly and the tigers are still struggling to get their act together both on and off the field.
 
Diesel

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Has Grant & co said why there's no WA team over the next 7 years directly, or is he indirectly saying it is because they want 16 viable clubs
 
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Billythekid

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Diesel said:
Has Grant & co said why there's no WA team over the next 7 years directly, or is he indirectly saying it is because they want 16 viable clubs
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They have basically been repeating that line for some time now so I'd say it's definitely that. They see expansion as risky and want to consolidate things first.
 
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Billythekid

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Any suggestion of cutting teams is a pipe dream and will never happen. It's not even worth entertaining the idea. The population of Sydney is going to continue to grow at a rapid rate and it would be an awful time to remove teams from that area. The comp can support 20-22 teams so I don't think we need to cut anyone at all.
 
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Billythekid

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alien said:
the comp would be much weaker though if that happened.
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I don't think this is true. Do you mean because the talent would be spread over more teams? If that's the case then how many teams do you suggest? 10 teams would provide overall better quality teams than 16 with the same playerbase. The thing is new teams can bring new talent. I'm not suggesting immediately either. I think 2 new teams in 2019/2020 and then another 2 teams around 5 years after that. Then longer term we can look at another 2 teams if we think it's possible (perhaps PNG could be an option by then).
 
taipan

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Billythekid said:
Are you suggesting that the tigers and manly aren't poorly managed? What in the last 12 months would change his opinion on that? Many Sydney clubs (and NRL clubs in general) have been run like sh*t for decades and some still are or have only recently got their act together.

Manly and the tigers are still struggling to get their act together both on and off the field.
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I'm not arguing the way clubs were run in the past.I know how crap clubs can be ,I have followed one for yonks.

I'm stating now, which your point seems to be supporting.The Sharks were poorly run year ago.Are they poorly run now?Parra stuffed up through dumb salary cap smart arsery.They will get a new board and now have a top CEO.

OK >Tigers have a new board .Wests part of the joint venture now have majority control.The Farah issue revolved around personality clashes with Taylor,not the new CEO.They played well most of the time when Farah was out.The Tiger's proposed development is a cluster f*ck,that's nothing to do with the new board, nor football admin.What other off field problems?The NRL knew they had problems that's why they appointed a professional board.
O'Nell was a good pick, but he stuffed up ,through certain allegations.

Manly
They had a sponsor who is trying to dud them or delay payments.That happens with sponsors at times.
They appointed Barrett after flicking Toovey.Football clubs change coaches it's no scoop.Whether the coach gets the job done or not is up to him and his players.There was a dispute between part owners,that has been resolved.That happens in business.
They got DCE finally and Myles ended up a dud, but wasn't so prior.They signed the two brothers whose flipping spelling I can't attempt.
They had an ordinary seasons ,as did a few other clubs.Can't all make the top 8 or 4 .

If they are still crap/struggling both on and off the field spell it out.Because they haven't signed players? Nothing to do with the fact many players are waiting for what the salary cap will be in 2018.Why sign up now and dud yourself.

I also forgot Manly's owners lobbied for funding from State and Federal Govt for a new stand at Brookvale .They got $20m, from these sources.Sometimes getting of ones a*se gets results.
 
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Billythekid said:
I don't think this is true. Do you mean because the talent would be spread over more teams?
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Yep.

Billythekid said:
If that's the case then how many teams do you suggest? 10 teams would provide overall better quality teams than 16 with the same player base.
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16 teams is fine.

Billythekid said:
The thing is new teams can bring new talent. I'm not suggesting immediately either. I think 2 new teams in 2019/2020 and then another 2 teams around 5 years after that.
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Yeah if no Sydney clubs relocate then that's how it should happen, but we would have to accept that the comp would be weaker, at least for a while.
 
RoosTah

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On the topic of the quality of the competition, I think ideally if the next TV deal gives the NRL yet more money their strategy should be to try and develop Victoria and WA's state comps so they become genuine and significant talent pools.

Imagine if Victoria had a competition comparable with the NSW or QLD Cup? It'd be a game changer for the code
 
taipan

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Agree RoosTah,the NRL needs to get off their backside and spend more on grassroots in Victoria,the 2nd largest state population wise.
 
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