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Perth Red

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İzmir Zaferi said:
There are up to 14 RL clubs active in SA, Western Cape Rugby League (Capetown area) has had up to five clubs.

Now clearly, these are adult clubs but it does not take much in such an environment to do open trials for players / athletes from Rugby Union backgrounds. In actual fact, a great amount of the players coming into the NRL out of NZ are not coming from League but Union.

The South African RL can take responsibility for development but a formal link helps profile and increases beyond imagination the motivation to try RL.

I coach and run a Rugby League club in Turkey. The desire of most young people is to "get out". The same is the case in South African and you can gaurantee, given the opportunity many would take it with both hands.

The engagement with SA, also legitimises South African engagement within Australia.

As for do I want West Coast to develop RL in WA and South Africa? In terms of a link to SARL? Why not?

All NRL clubs should have formalised international links / agreements with salary cap quotas for signed players. It is good for the game in general, good for the NRL as a brand and good for the playing base.

I know a link for Turkish Rugby League for us, for instance even with a club like London Broncos (lower level) with a gauranteed once a year open trial in Turkey would be MASSIVE for our game here.
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It’d be nice to see the nrl support such an initiative, personally I’d rather see WA have a close and genuine link up with png with pirates academies across png deeveloping and scouting the best PNG 17 year olds To join the pirates nrl club.

back in the day the westerm reds once toured South Africa The year before we kicked off in the comp.

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There are clubs in Victoria with over 400 registered participants as well. For all the negativity often seen here about the game outside Qld and NSW the game is growing. It’s very hard to get team numbers per club out of Perth because their website is really unhelpful but there are clubs in Victoria with up to 25 teams playing each week.
 
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Pneuma said:
There are clubs in Victoria with over 400 registered participants as well. For all the negativity often seen here about the game outside Qld and NSW the game is growing. It’s very hard to get team numbers per club out of Perth because their website is really unhelpful but there are clubs in Victoria with up to 25 teams playing each week.
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The NRL now run the game in WA not sure about Vic but they probably do there aswell. Every other sport would be shouting the growth from the rooftops but the NRL seem to want to hide it.
 
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Bukowski said:
The NRL now run the game in WA not sure about Vic but they probably do there aswell. Every other sport would be shouting the growth from the rooftops but the NRL seem to want to hide it.
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Nrl run all state comps outside qld and NSW. Record participation in Victoria has been reported pretty widely. I put it on the nrl vic thread
 
Get Rid of The Donkeys

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Perth Red said:
It’d be nice to see the nrl support such an initiative, personally I’d rather see WA have a close and genuine link up with png with pirates academies across png deeveloping and scouting the best PNG 17 year olds To join the pirates nrl club.

back in the day the westerm reds once toured South Africa The year before we kicked off in the comp.

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Cowboys tried to set up a working relationship with PNG in the early 1990s. It led to an angry mob waiting to ambush Cowboys officials at the Port Moresby airport in 1994 because an article was written about a high-profile Papuan recruit struggling in the Townsville competiton. He went on to play a few games in reserve grade for the Cowboys in 1995 before heading back to PNG due to homesickness. The Cowboys had to cancel their promotional tour of Port Moresby due to the angry mob waiting for them at the airport.

The PNG Hunters have struggled to churn out a long list of NRL players.
 
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Get Rid of The Donkeys said:
The PNG Hunters have struggled to churn out a long list of NRL players.
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So has the mackay cutters, CQ Capras or west coast pirates whats your point??
Without a 1st grade team pathway, it makes it very difficult to get any promotion out of their area...
Look at the difference between the sunshine coast falcons link with the storm, or newtown jets link with the sharks, you see more local players make 1st grade when they have a solid pathway straight to 1st grade... png never had that... only recently did they link with the dolphins, that wont bear fruit for atleast another few years
 
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MugaB said:
So has the mackay cutters, CQ Capras or west coast pirates whats your point??
Without a 1st grade team pathway, it makes it very difficult to get any promotion out of their area...
Look at the difference between the sunshine coast falcons link with the storm, or newtown jets link with the sharks, you see more local players make 1st grade when they have a solid pathway straight to 1st grade... png never had that... only recently did they link with the dolphins, that wont bear fruit for atleast another few years
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Hunters have been in the Queensland Cup since 2013. That's a decade. They entered the Queensland Cup to provide players from the Digicel Cup with a pathway to the NRL. Olam is the only player I can think of who has been recruited by an NRL club while playing for the Hunters in the Queensland Cup. A few players have gone on to play Championship division in England.

Cameron Munster was playing for the CQ Capras when he was recruited by the Melbourne Storm.

Michael Morgan won a premiership playing in the centres for the Mackay Cutters before becoming an established first grade player for the Cowboys.
 
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Get Rid of The Donkeys said:
Hunters have been in the Queensland Cup since 2013. That's a decade. They entered the Queensland Cup to provide players from the Digicel Cup with a pathway to the NRL. Olam is the only player I can think of who has been recruited by an NRL club while playing for the Hunters in the Queensland Cup. A few players have gone on to play Championship division in England.

Cameron Munster was playing for the CQ Capras when he was recruited by the Melbourne Storm.

Michael Morgan won a premiership playing in the centres for the Mackay Cutters before becoming an established first grade player for the Cowboys.
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So are we using justin olam as the only case here?
He got recruited, and played for the sunshine coast falcons against his hunters of which he only played for one season... sunshine coast is the Melbourne feeder club... who is the hunters feeder club? In all those seasons being in the qcup there isnt a link to 1st grade, until just recently where the dolphins have picked them up.. as for Munster and Morgan, there's tons of players who get sort out, but thats only coz there's scouts roaming queenland to find these gems, not so many in PNG, like i said far easier to see png players come from the qcup into 1st grade if there was a pathway linked to an already established NRL club
 
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Get Rid of The Donkeys said:
Cowboys tried to set up a working relationship with PNG in the early 1990s. It led to an angry mob waiting to ambush Cowboys officials at the Port Moresby airport in 1994 because an article was written about a high-profile Papuan recruit struggling in the Townsville competiton. He went on to play a few games in reserve grade for the Cowboys in 1995 before heading back to PNG due to homesickness. The Cowboys had to cancel their promotional tour of Port Moresby due to the angry mob waiting for them at the airport.

The PNG Hunters have struggled to churn out a long list of NRL players.
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It would probably be more successful getting players into the NRL by getting 15/16 year olds from PNG and bring them to Australia to finish school and play junior rep RL

Seems to be the path travelled by quite a few NZ eligible players
 
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bazza said:
It would probably be more successful getting players into the NRL by getting 15/16 year olds from PNG and bring them to Australia to finish school and play junior rep RL

Seems to be the path travelled by quite a few NZ eligible players
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Yeh Pirates could have a perth based school scholarship program as well as a mining trade based apprentice program for older kids. Thatd be a great way to get PNG talent into the NRL and help out our lack of player numbers, give thge PNg kids some advanatge back home as well if the NRL doesnt work out.
Be a damn site better than the current rubbish where an NRL club (Dolphins) is picking out the best 3 NSW cup Hunter players and giving them a train and trial contract.
 
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Great to see Perths newest club growing so strongly. Alkimos is anew suburban development in northern perth. Just shows that as Perth grows and all these new areas get developed there will be great opportunity to get in early and build rugby league clubs in them.

www.perthnow.com.au

Rugby league taking off in northern suburbs

A northern suburbs club is leading the way for WA to become a NRL State.
www.perthnow.com.au www.perthnow.com.au
 
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