Western Melbourne - NRL Expansion (2nd Victorian Team)

[greenBV4]

Interested to see the claims of an Alt account

Half the people on this site have so little faith in our game they think there's only 1 or 2 rl supporters from outside nsw or qld on here, and anyone else claiming to be must be an alt

Personally I think vic 2 is a few years off but it’s a good strategy by the nrl to create a market for a team and push the discussion about who will be next.

Spot on, definately not something you'd do now, but there's a strong growth happening in Vic at the moment and the NRL should jump on this to help sustain it, pump some much needed funds into grassroots with a strategy to maybe consider Melb 2 for team 20

 

[bad boy bubby]

In reading about all these new teams possibly coming into the competition I read it all like this:
The NRL are saying "We are very serious about expanding. Start getting your ducks-in-a-row, because when the time comes we will be picking the best team(s) that suit. We aren't fecking around here"

 

[ayatollah_murdoch]

More chance of me bedding a Kardashian than Melbourne being team 18.

 

[Pneuma]

More chance of me bedding a Kardashian than Melbourne being team 18.

You’d be a chance with Caitliyn Jenner.

 

[Pneuma]

In reading about all these new teams possibly coming into the competition I read it all like this:
The NRL are saying "We are very serious about expanding. Start getting your ducks-in-a-row, because when the time comes we will be picking the best team(s) that suit. We aren't fecking around here"

And it puts a bit of context around a Tasmanian fumbling team which has been agreed to by the chief fumbler only because the government wouldn’t shut up and paid a fortune for it. The market in Tassie is tiny.

 

[Canard]

Why is GWS widely derided as an abject failure, but Melb 2 now seen as a great idea?

Anyone who lives in Melbourne knows that Western United have been nothing short of a disaster in terms of fan support, and that Tarniet is a shit place for a stadium of this type. And soccer is a much bigger sport here than League.

Luckily for all involved they don't have the funds, nor planning approval to build a private stadium on land gifted to them by Council.

 

[Centy Coast]

We're just happy to be thought about lol we'll happily take a 19th or 20th license

But there is no News Ltd involved this time to prop up $$$ another Melb team up for the first 15 years as they did with the Storm, the Storm have been in the NRL for 25 years and still call Qld home.

 

[Mr Angry]

Haha 20 odd years, no juniors. Victorians are Shyte at sport. Great observers, terrible at doing..

 

[mongoose]

Interested to see the claims of an Alt account. This new chap seems legit to me and knows what he’s talking about. Personally I think vic 2 is a few years off but it’s a good strategy by the nrl to create a market for a team and push the discussion about who will be next.

i'm only joking, blue bags seems to be the only poster who was pushing hard for Melbourne 2.

For me, I would really like to see a steady stream of Vic juniors coming through into the NRL before we talk about a second Melbourne team though. The Storm should also be averaging over 20k a game.

 

[Pneuma]

i'm only joking, blue bags seems to be the only poster who was pushing hard for Melbourne 2.

For me, I would really like to see a steady stream of Vic juniors coming through into the NRL before we talk about a second Melbourne team though.

Wasn’t thinking of you so much mate. BTW blue bags is hilarious. The steady stream of juniors is starting to happen but it needs consolidation. 2nd team is at least 5 years off but the idea is sound and we have failed fumbling models to learn from.

 

[bad boy bubby]

And it puts a bit of context around a Tasmanian fumbling team which has been agreed to by the chief fumbler only because the government wouldn’t shut up and paid a fortune for it. The market in Tassie is tiny.

Well in regards to that other sport, I can guess that the NRL could be saying "if you're going to give them that much money because they have more teams and a wider audience, then next time around we're going to have that many teams that stretch the land, so you'd better be paying up"
Of course I'm just doing as everyone else here does, speculating.

 

[Canard]

Wasn’t thinking of you so much mate. BTW blue bags is hilarious. The steady stream of juniors is starting to happen but it needs consolidation. 2nd team is at least 5 years off but the idea is sound and we have failed fumbling models to learn from.

Way more than 5 years, more like 15 or 25.

 

[Colk]

Wasn’t thinking of you so much mate. BTW blue bags is hilarious. The steady stream of juniors is starting to happen but it needs consolidation. 2nd team is at least 5 years off but the idea is sound and we have failed fumbling models to learn from.

Do you reckon mate? 10 or 15 years and I’d look at it.

It’s not a bad idea for the future considering the massive growth projected for Melbourne. Demographics also change so the people driving the population growth might be an easier sell than what it was 20 of so years ago.

Nevertheless, I think you would still want to see more growth in junior numbers and in Storm attendance and support.

 

[ayatollah_murdoch]

You’d be a chance with Caitliyn Jenner.

1. Not a Kardashian
2. Transphobic, you should be cancelled and made to do a walk of shame down George Street

 

[Pneuma]

Way more than 5 years, more like 15 or 25.

150 would probably suit you?

 

[Pneuma]

Do you reckon mate? 10 or 15 years and I’d look at it.

It’s not a bad idea for the future considering the massive growth projected for Melbourne. Demographics also change so the people driving the population growth might be an easier sell than what it was 20 of so years ago.

Nevertheless, I think you would still want to see more growth in junior numbers and in Storm attendance and support.

I’m an optimist. 20 teams by 2032 so by then at least. It’s a massive city so, if the NRL are considering it, that’s a good timeline. Whatever the reality is the competitive tension will make the discussion worth it.

 

[Steel Saints]

I think Western Melbourne is team 21 or 22. They are behind Perth, NZ 2 and Brisbane 3. I would be shocked if they were team 19 or 20. Surely they are not team 18.

Western Melbourne might have an NRL club in 15-20 years.

 

[Canard]

So this forum is consistent in its view that GWS is a steaming pile of horseshit. Yet some think Melb 2 is great idea?

Melbourne's growth isn't all West by the way, its quite significant in the North, and obviously SE. And the demos of Western Melbourne are not people from RL supporting backgrounds.

Growth doesn't correlate to support, especially when its not an RL state (not even close).

Western United admittedly nomadic existence, sees them have a crowd average of 3.1K! Why would the NRL have any more resonance?

 

[Pneuma]

So this forum is consistent in its view that GWS is a steaming pile of horseshit. Yet some think Melb 2 is great idea?

Melbourne's growth isn't all West by the way, its quite significant in the North, and obviously SE. And the demos of Western Melbourne are not people from RL supporting backgrounds.

Growth doesn't correlate to support, especially when its not an RL state (not even close).

Western United admittedly nomadic existence, sees them have a crowd average of 3.1K! Why would the NRL have any more resonance?

It’s a proposal worth looking at. GWS is an outstanding example of how to fail. The lessons learned from that should assist a new Victorian club wherever and whenever that occurs.

 

[mongoose]

So this forum is consistent in its view that GWS is a steaming pile of horseshit. Yet some think Melb 2 is great idea?

Melbourne's growth isn't all West by the way, its quite significant in the North, and obviously SE. And the demos of Western Melbourne are not people from RL supporting backgrounds.

Growth doesn't correlate to support, especially when its not an RL state (not even close).

Western United admittedly nomadic existence, sees them have a crowd average of 3.1K! Why would the NRL have any more resonance?

GWS will be beneficial for AFL long term but boy that club's had a rocky start. The arrogant and divisive way AFL goes about things hasn't helped their cause either. GWS Giants is obviously a terrible nickname for a club too.