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Wests Tigers take over bid

Mr Spock!

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U drunk bro?
It makes ALOT more sense than Sydney, and then having a South Sydney.
Ultimately they would go to East Sydney but I doubt they will ditch just Sydney, for reasons posted on other pages
We had at the time:
Sydney City Roosters
Sydney City Bulldogs
Sydney City Tigers.

Whoever came up with that genius idea was drunk.

The dogs of course resorted back to their Canterbury brand because it was a stupid idea.

Look how well the Northern Eagles went.
 

kdalymc

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We had at the time:
Sydney City Roosters
Sydney City Bulldogs
Sydney City Tigers.

Whoever came up with that genius idea was drunk.

The dogs of course resorted back to their Canterbury brand because it was a stupid idea.

Look how well the Northern Eagles went.
Only 1 of them teams was real. You are drunk.
 

Mr Spock!

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Hahahaha.

A souffs fan going on about loyalty and trust....

In 1909 when one team stood on principle and refused to play as a curtain raiser to line the pockets of rugby union, where was the loyalty and trust you speak of?

Lol this is funny.....

Who were the disloyal traitors in 1909?

"By the start of the 1909 season, the NSWRL was in a dire financial crisis – its founding fathers, James Giltinan, Victor Trumper and 'Harry' Hoyle, all lost their positions.

Under the stewardship of North Sydney's Alexander Knox, the NSWRL convinced the clubs to forgo their gate receipts from matches, and hand it all over to the League.

It quickly became apparent to Knox that the only club attracting reasonable crowds was Balmain at Birchgrove Park. Consequently, Balmain were given a home game in almost every round.

As a result, they enjoyed great on-field success and climbed the premiership ladder. Balmain reached the Final against South Sydney.

However, as Souths had won the minor premiership by two points, the NSWRL play-offs system meant that Balmain had to beat them in the Final, and then beat them again in a second Final to claim the title. It seemed unlikely.

Balmain lobbied the NSWRL to schedule the Final at Wentworth Park, which was half-way between the two districts. The League refused, and put the match on at the Agricultural Ground – Souths home field.

Balmain's complaints were quickly overtaken by outside events when more than half of the 1908 Wallabies team suddenly defected to rugby league for a series of matches against the Kangaroos.

The Final was postponed indefinitely.

Knox publicly criticised the NSWRL officials who were involved in 'bringing-down' the NSWRU via paying huge sums to the Wallabies. Other officials did not see a problem with the League's actions, and Knox soon lost his position on the NSWRL.

Funded by entrepreneur James Joynton-Smith, the three 'Wallabies v Kangaroos' matches did not earn enough gate-money to fully cover his costs or those of the NSWRL. So a fourth game was arranged. To increase interest and gate-takings, the NSWRL scheduled the Final on the under-card.

Balmain were seemingly aggrieved at the demotion of importance of the Final, and asked the NSWRL to ensure it was played on a separate day. They also argued that their players' labour should not go towards paying money owed to Joynton-Smith and the NSWRL. The League refused and Balmain announced that they would not play.

On the day of the Final the Balmain players arrived outside the ground in the early afternoon, well before the scheduled kick-off time of 2 o’clock. They then picketed the entrance, endeavouring to convince patrons not to enter.

Despite very heavy rain and the protests of the Balmain footballers, enough of a crowd turned up to clear the debts of Joynton-Smith and the NSWRL. Balmain stuck to their word and did not appear on the field. Souths kicked off, picked up the ball and scored a try. The referee awarded them the match, and with it the 1909 premiership.

In the days that followed a public meeting was held at Balmain to decide what to do about challenging Souths being credited as premiers. It then became apparent what Balmain had been trying to achieve. The first speaker at the meeting was North Sydney's Alexander Knox. He had convinced Balmain to forfeit the Final in the hope that the NSWRL would not earn enough money to pay off its debts or be able to reimburse Joynton-Smith.

With the NSWRL bankrupted, Balmain and Norths officials would lead the formation of a new rugby league body – one in which they, and not South Sydney and Easts, would be the dominant office-holders. With little hope of winning the premiership, Balmain felt they had more to gain by causing the NSWRL to collapse.

Further meetings were held, attempting to instigate legal proceedings and investigate forming a new League, but they eventually stalled.


In the opening round of the 1910 competition, the NSWRL scheduled a 're-match' between Souths and Balmain at Birchgrove Park to appease the local supporters.

'The Balmainiacs' responded by establishing a record crowd for a NSWRL club match of over 5,000. The home team though were beaten 13–5 in a very tough and physical encounter.

The Referee thought it necessary to praise the Birchgrove crowd for their behaviour, offering: "Naturally they like to see their favourites win, and what district does not? In the present instance, however, their team had to play second fiddle, but as sports they took the defeat in good spirit, and liberally applauded the visitors".

At the first NSWRL meeting of 1910, Norths' Alexander Knox was banned from rugby league for life.[9

]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1909_NSWRFL_season
 

Jim Rockford

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Hahaha, and Senses had the gall to accuse others of rewriting history. I'm sure he's got a take on the above article which suits his agenda but lies somewhere outside of reality.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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Lol this is funny.....

Who were the disloyal traitors in 1909?

"By the start of the 1909 season, the NSWRL was in a dire financial crisis – its founding fathers, James Giltinan, Victor Trumper and 'Harry' Hoyle, all lost their positions.

Under the stewardship of North Sydney's Alexander Knox, the NSWRL convinced the clubs to forgo their gate receipts from matches, and hand it all over to the League.

It quickly became apparent to Knox that the only club attracting reasonable crowds was Balmain at Birchgrove Park. Consequently, Balmain were given a home game in almost every round.

As a result, they enjoyed great on-field success and climbed the premiership ladder. Balmain reached the Final against South Sydney.

However, as Souths had won the minor premiership by two points, the NSWRL play-offs system meant that Balmain had to beat them in the Final, and then beat them again in a second Final to claim the title. It seemed unlikely.

Balmain lobbied the NSWRL to schedule the Final at Wentworth Park, which was half-way between the two districts. The League refused, and put the match on at the Agricultural Ground – Souths home field.

Balmain's complaints were quickly overtaken by outside events when more than half of the 1908 Wallabies team suddenly defected to rugby league for a series of matches against the Kangaroos.

The Final was postponed indefinitely.

Knox publicly criticised the NSWRL officials who were involved in 'bringing-down' the NSWRU via paying huge sums to the Wallabies. Other officials did not see a problem with the League's actions, and Knox soon lost his position on the NSWRL.

Funded by entrepreneur James Joynton-Smith, the three 'Wallabies v Kangaroos' matches did not earn enough gate-money to fully cover his costs or those of the NSWRL. So a fourth game was arranged. To increase interest and gate-takings, the NSWRL scheduled the Final on the under-card.

Balmain were seemingly aggrieved at the demotion of importance of the Final, and asked the NSWRL to ensure it was played on a separate day. They also argued that their players' labour should not go towards paying money owed to Joynton-Smith and the NSWRL. The League refused and Balmain announced that they would not play.

On the day of the Final the Balmain players arrived outside the ground in the early afternoon, well before the scheduled kick-off time of 2 o’clock. They then picketed the entrance, endeavouring to convince patrons not to enter.

Despite very heavy rain and the protests of the Balmain footballers, enough of a crowd turned up to clear the debts of Joynton-Smith and the NSWRL. Balmain stuck to their word and did not appear on the field. Souths kicked off, picked up the ball and scored a try. The referee awarded them the match, and with it the 1909 premiership.

In the days that followed a public meeting was held at Balmain to decide what to do about challenging Souths being credited as premiers. It then became apparent what Balmain had been trying to achieve. The first speaker at the meeting was North Sydney's Alexander Knox. He had convinced Balmain to forfeit the Final in the hope that the NSWRL would not earn enough money to pay off its debts or be able to reimburse Joynton-Smith.

With the NSWRL bankrupted, Balmain and Norths officials would lead the formation of a new rugby league body – one in which they, and not South Sydney and Easts, would be the dominant office-holders. With little hope of winning the premiership, Balmain felt they had more to gain by causing the NSWRL to collapse.

Further meetings were held, attempting to instigate legal proceedings and investigate forming a new League, but they eventually stalled.


In the opening round of the 1910 competition, the NSWRL scheduled a 're-match' between Souths and Balmain at Birchgrove Park to appease the local supporters.

'The Balmainiacs' responded by establishing a record crowd for a NSWRL club match of over 5,000. The home team though were beaten 13–5 in a very tough and physical encounter.

The Referee thought it necessary to praise the Birchgrove crowd for their behaviour, offering: "Naturally they like to see their favourites win, and what district does not? In the present instance, however, their team had to play second fiddle, but as sports they took the defeat in good spirit, and liberally applauded the visitors".

At the first NSWRL meeting of 1910, Norths' Alexander Knox was banned from rugby league for life.[9

]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1909_NSWRFL_season

Typical souffs, all about them.
Mr Spock a clear winner by TKO:laughing:
Nah. Lol@souffs always wins in the end.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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Hahaha, and Senses had the gall to accuse others of rewriting history. I'm sure he's got a take on the above article which suits his agenda but lies somewhere outside of reality.
Outside the book of foods...

I'm not deeply upset. We have another 8 years to go to equal souffs record of not making the finals.

Or is it only 6, since you missed a couple of seasons?
 
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Well I'm confused.

That could be a sign of early onset dementia. Just kidding mate.

Apparently no one will follow Chelsea, West Ham, Tottenham and Arsenal because no one knows where they're from.
People all around the world follow them because a) soccer is the largest sport in the world and b) these clubs are successful in the most popular soccer competition on Earth. It's Human nature for spoilt people to align themselves with winners and high-status brands. Its why people buy shit like Gucci, Mercedes, BMW and anything that is linked with richness.

Our game is not linked with the elite and sadly, Australians are becoming a bunch of yuppies with an insecurity complex. In the old days we drove Falcons, Fairmonts, Fairlanes, Commodores and Statesmans because they were our cars and we took pride in being Australian. Now we've become a nation of Eurosnob hipsters who want to be accepted by everyone else. It's pathetic how self-loathing Aussies have become. I'm proud of being a dinky-di Aussie, despite being from Europe and proudly drive an Aussie car, wear thongs and use Aussie lingo that many kids these days don't even know because they've been raised on Hollywood crap.

Tottenham has 280 supporters clubs around the world and none of them would know wtf Tottenham is.

See above.

It seems they're stuck in the 1980s.

You btw are stuck in the 1990s Superleague War. You're using the same moronic arguments.


It was tried and people hated it. So while you're trying to win fans (who couldn't give a flying f**k) in Nepal, the Australian viewing public voted with its feet.

The Superleague War was a disaster for rugby league.


The Northern Eagles must've done really well reaching their market in Moldavia.
Super League actually drew higher attendances than ARL in 1997. Clubs from Townsville, Auckland, Brisbane and Adelaide were drawing 2 or 4 times as many people as some Sydney ARL clubs.

Screenshot_20210510-224017.png Screenshot_20210510-224338.png
https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/1997.html
https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/1997SL.html

Cronulla drew better crowds than every other Sydney club bar Parramatta, and that was with just 2 other Sydney clubs to compete with and hold local derbies against. That throws a massive wrench in your argument.
Wtf does EPL even have to do with NRL? Kids aren't sitting around watching EPL or NBA.

Most of them are on their XBoxes.

Rugby League is a sport played in 3 countries seriously around the world. It is the dominant sport in only 2 states of one country in the world.

You don't see the AFL in hysterics over NFL or NHL
EPL has a large following around Australia, especially amongst children. I was shocked to learn how many kids who have foreign parents didn't even know the difference between RL/RU and only watched soccer. That's the new Australia. All they spoke about was EPL. This was 20 years ago. It would be even worse now. Look at how many people flocked to watch EPL clubs play in Australia. Tickets were snapped up in seconds.

We've got RL players who would rather play gridiron in the NFL.

NBA is very popular amongst kids and has been since the 90s.
 
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Outside the book of foods...

I'm not deeply upset. We have another 8 years to go to equal souffs record of not making the finals.

Or is it only 6, since you missed a couple of seasons?
It'll be interesting to see how the Souffs Elmer Fudds go when Bennett leaves. We all know how that went for Broncos, Dragons, Knights and Broncos (again).
 

Mr Spock!

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That could be a sign of early onset dementia. Just kidding mate.


People all around the world follow them because a) soccer is the largest sport in the world and b) these clubs are successful in the most popular soccer competition on Earth. It's Human nature for spoilt people to align themselves with winners and high-status brands. Its why people buy shit like Gucci, Mercedes, BMW and anything that is linked with richness.

Our game is not linked with the elite and sadly, Australians are becoming a bunch of yuppies with an insecurity complex. In the old days we drove Falcons, Fairmonts, Fairlanes, Commodores and Statesmans because they were our cars and we took pride in being Australian. Now we've become a nation of Eurosnob hipsters who want to be accepted by everyone else. It's pathetic how self-loathing Aussies have become. I'm proud of being a dinky-di Aussie, despite being from Europe and proudly drive an Aussie car, wear thongs and use Aussie lingo that many kids these days don't even know because they've been raised on Hollywood crap.



See above.


Super League actually drew higher attendances than ARL in 1997. Clubs from Townsville, Auckland, Brisbane and Adelaide were drawing 2 or 4 times as many people as some Sydney ARL clubs.

View attachment 48354 View attachment 48355
https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/1997.html
https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/1997SL.html

Cronulla drew better crowds than every other Sydney club bar Parramatta, and that was with just 2 other Sydney clubs to compete with and hold local derbies against. That throws a massive wrench in your argument.

EPL has a large following around Australia, especially amongst children. I was shocked to learn how many kids who have foreign parents didn't even know the difference between RL/RU and only watched soccer. That's the new Australia. All they spoke about was EPL. This was 20 years ago. It would be even worse now. Look at how many people flocked to watch EPL clubs play in Australia. Tickets were snapped up in seconds.

We've got RL players who would rather play gridiron in the NFL.

NBA is very popular amongst kids and has been since the 90s.
You're just making shit up.

Kids aren't watching epl nor nba.

I can tell you of the hundreds of kids I've taught not one watches epl nor nba.

You're just deluded.

Like Ribot was.

Once again your moronic posts to restart the superleague war shows just how stupid you are.

English premier league clubs who happen to be some suburb of London apparently are known world wide. Soccer is a world wide game.

Rugby league isn't.

It's only dominant in 2 states in 1 country on earth.

Some kid in Romania couldn't give a flying f**k if you called yourself the Parramatta or Sydney eels. They ain't watching nrl.

What happened to the northern eagles and the Bears fans?
 

The_Frog

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We had at the time:
Sydney City Roosters
Sydney City Bulldogs
Sydney City Tigers.

Whoever came up with that genius idea was drunk.

The dogs of course resorted back to their Canterbury brand because it was a stupid idea.

Look how well the Northern Eagles went.
Bulldogs and Tigers never had City in their name.
 

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