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Wests Tigers take over bid

Mr Spock!

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Fitzroy were forced to relocate and merge with the Brisbane Bears.

Other teams in Melbourne wanted to merge, but AwFuL feared they would become too powerful.

You only care about the heritage of the NSWRL. You don't give a f**k about all the other clubs that were relegated to second-tier status when the NSWRL became the only game in town, courtesy of pokie machine revenue that wasn't available to clubs in Queensland. The NSWRL ceased being the NSWRL when it decided to become the de facto competition. It was inevitable that some of its clubs wouldn't survive, especially when the Wayne Goss Labor Gov legalised pokies.

Clubs like the Cowboys and Reds were forced to pay the travel costs of all teams who played in Townsville and Perth. The arrangement was insisted on by the NSWRL clubs. It cost the Cowboys $800k per year. Discriminatory rules like that, created to give Sydney clubs an advantage, are why clubs like the Cowboys and Reds jumped ship to Super League. After all these years, you haven't learnt that if everyone is equal but some are more equal than others, then there will be resentment and rebellion.

Which clubs are more profitable, Melbourne's AwFuL clubs or Sydney's NRL clubs?
Fitzroy were bankrupt. They were going to merge with Footscray until their members rose up against it. Footscray didn't want to merge.

Melbourne and Hawthorn merger was denied by Hawthorn member uprising.

Number of mergers denied by the AFL because clubs would be "too powerful" = 0.

Bahahaha still on about pokie machines.

Cowboys last year made $12 million from their 273 poker machines.....

https://cowboysleagues.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/CLC-Annual-Report-2020-WEB.pdf

The Cowboys didn't have to pay any team's travel costs. The Reds did. No surprise you have to resort to lying.

"The Western Reds were effectively forced to move to Super League. The 1995 expansion club, as a condition of entry, were forced to pay the travel costs of their opponents, a stipulation not placed on the Warriors or Cowboys."

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/04/23/super-league-revisited-the-super-league-clubs/

Seems your team was treated more equal than others.

Btw players were getting called up to play for Australia without even being in the NSWRL nor BRL eg Rohan Hancock and Col Weiss up until the 80s. You know, like when Country Rugby Leagues were strong. Players still had to have jobs until the 90s.
 
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Yet your club took his millions...
We had no choice. The ARL forced us to spend $800,000 per year to fly Sydney teams up to Townsville, because, they were too poor to afford one trip a year to play at Willows. If your clubs couldn't afford one flight to Townsville per year, then maybe they shouldn't have been playing in a national competition and remained the NSWRL.

The entitlement complex of thinking Sydney clubs should be propped up by everyone else so that insular people like you can think the world begins and ends in Sydney. You treated everyone outside of Sydney like second class citizens and hated us being in the competition, even though we had no choice because the NSWRL killed every other league, but whinge when we decided to form our own because the conditions you placed on us were unsustainable.
 
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The Cowboys didn't have to pay any team's travel costs. The Reds did. No surprise you have to resort to lying.

"The Western Reds were effectively forced to move to Super League. The 1995 expansion club, as a condition of entry, were forced to pay the travel costs of their opponents, a stipulation not placed on the Warriors or Cowboys."

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/04/23/super-league-revisited-the-super-league-clubs/

Seems your team was treated more equal than others.
Here's a photo from 20 Years In The Saddle, by Neil Cadigan (Ch3 From An Old Kingwood To Rolls Royce Rugby League, p41)
If your eyesight cannot read it, here's what it says.

"An agreement, as requested by the NSWRL after pressure from other clubs, to pay not only for the travel of the Cowboys to away games but also visiting clubs to Townsville, a prohibitive cost estimated at about $800,000 a year."

D09F18D7-749A-4EEC-8CAB-AB388F31A740.jpeg

Accept it mate, you don't know anything.
 
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Perth Red

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Same as perth, what really killed it was the late addition of u21’s as well meaning perth and Townsville had to cover costs of 3 squads travel and accommodation every week, no,wonder they knew they were screwed and jumped ship!
 

Zoe Palmer

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Interestingly there is an article in the Sunday Telegraph about George Piggins not being a Life Member of Souths. The reason is all members had to apply to have their membership transferred to the new company when Crowe took over. If you are going to argue that the Wests Tigers don't have history pre 2000 maybe it can be argued that Souths are now not the same club lol.


Sorry, that’s just desperate. Accept the fact that the Balmain Tigers and the Western Suburbs Magpies don’t exist in the NRL any more.

wests tigers have won 1 comp as a joint venture

South Sydney Rabbitohs have and are still running around under the same name since 1908 with 21 titles to their name. They are the benchmark

it is what it is.

the failure to embrace the merged entity of the W/T is the root of the problem and why performance has been diabolically bad for so long
 

Jim Rockford

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Sorry, that’s just desperate. Accept the fact that the Balmain Tigers and the Western Suburbs Magpies don’t exist in the NRL any more.

wests tigers have won 1 comp as a joint venture

South Sydney Rabbitohs have and are still running around under the same name since 1908 with 21 titles to their name. They are the benchmark

it is what it is.

the failure to embrace the merged entity of the W/T is the root of the problem and why performance has been diabolically bad for so long
So good to see that not all Wests fans are as moronic as the other cretins in this thread. I commend you Zoe for being prepared to speak the truth. Shame the other Wests fans in this thread don't have your integrity.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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So good to see that not all Wests fans are as moronic as the other cretins in this thread. I commend you Zoe for being prepared to speak the truth. Shame the other Wests fans in this thread don't have your integrity.
Be consistent. Or is it ok that souffs club legends no longer have a relationship with the club they brought back from extinction?

Be honest, souffs v2.0 has as much claim to it's history as the joint venture between the Magpies and Balmain.

If we don't, neither do you. If you do, so do we. You can't have it both ways mate
 

Jim Rockford

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Be consistent. Or is it ok that souffs club legends no longer have a relationship with the club they brought back from extinction?

Be honest, souffs v2.0 has as much claim to it's history as the joint venture between the Magpies and Balmain.

If we don't, neither do you. If you do, so do we. You can't have it both ways mate
Speaking of moronic Wests fans, here comes their King.
 

unforgiven

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Sorry, that’s just desperate. Accept the fact that the Balmain Tigers and the Western Suburbs Magpies don’t exist in the NRL any more.

wests tigers have won 1 comp as a joint venture

South Sydney Rabbitohs have and are still running around under the same name since 1908 with 21 titles to their name. They are the benchmark

it is what it is.

the failure to embrace the merged entity of the W/T is the root of the problem and why performance has been diabolically bad for so long

I don't count Wests and Balmain premierships as Wests Tigers premierships, but to say the club doesn't have a history that stretches back to 1908 is plain wrong.
 

Diesel

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Fitzroy were bankrupt. They were going to merge with Footscray until their members rose up against it. Footscray didn't want to merge.

Melbourne and Hawthorn merger was denied by Hawthorn member uprising.

Number of mergers denied by the AFL because clubs would be "too powerful" = 0.

Bahahaha still on about pokie machines.

Cowboys last year made $12 million from their 273 poker machines.....

https://cowboysleagues.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/CLC-Annual-Report-2020-WEB.pdf

The Cowboys didn't have to pay any team's travel costs. The Reds did. No surprise you have to resort to lying.

"The Western Reds were effectively forced to move to Super League. The 1995 expansion club, as a condition of entry, were forced to pay the travel costs of their opponents, a stipulation not placed on the Warriors or Cowboys."

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/04/23/super-league-revisited-the-super-league-clubs/

Seems your team was treated more equal than others.

Btw players were getting called up to play for Australia without even being in the NSWRL nor BRL eg Rohan Hancock and Col Weiss up until the 80s. You know, like when Country Rugby Leagues were strong. Players still had to have jobs until the 90s.
the AUCKLAND Warriors paid travel costs. The NZ Warriors do not
 

Diesel

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Fitzroy were bankrupt. They were going to merge with Footscray until their members rose up against it. Footscray didn't want to merge.

Melbourne and Hawthorn merger was denied by Hawthorn member uprising.

Number of mergers denied by the AFL because clubs would be "too powerful" = 0.

Bahahaha still on about pokie machines.

Cowboys last year made $12 million from their 273 poker machines.....

https://cowboysleagues.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/CLC-Annual-Report-2020-WEB.pdf

The Cowboys didn't have to pay any team's travel costs. The Reds did. No surprise you have to resort to lying.

"The Western Reds were effectively forced to move to Super League. The 1995 expansion club, as a condition of entry, were forced to pay the travel costs of their opponents, a stipulation not placed on the Warriors or Cowboys."

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/04/23/super-league-revisited-the-super-league-clubs/

Seems your team was treated more equal than others.

Btw players were getting called up to play for Australia without even being in the NSWRL nor BRL eg Rohan Hancock and Col Weiss up until the 80s. You know, like when Country Rugby Leagues were strong. Players still had to have jobs until the 90s.
the AUCKLAND Warriors paid travel costs. The NZ Warriors do not
 
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Same as perth, what really killed it was the late addition of u21’s as well meaning perth and Townsville had to cover costs of 3 squads travel and accommodation every week, no,wonder they knew they were screwed and jumped ship!
Western Reds and North Queensland Cowboys were set up to fail. They should have kept the Reds in 1998.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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That makes two of us. Something I haven't had to do however is to stop supporting the club I always supported and start supporting some new merged abomination. I could see how that would make someone bitter and delusional eh Senses.
Facts are facts. You're the one seeming bitter and subjective.
 

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