Weststigers Wasteland

[Nutz]

@Tiger05
Wow that's impressive. He's like a snake coiling around it's prey, he gets them into positions where they have to many points to try and release, when they release one he hits them or uses it to move in a choke.
There's not many 7' fighters so that's my excuse to watch it on tv

 

[Nutz]

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[Nutz]

@Tiger05
Brains v Brawn

 

[Tiger05]

@Tiger05
Brains v Brawn

Lesnar was a beast wasn't he. He just wasn't a fighter if that makes sense.

Watch this one but I can't watch it again because it's so insane.


This is watchable because they just get out of it.


My take is Lesnar should have been able to get out of that because his knee was close to getting out but Mir is a massive dude who knows what he is doing. Mir has broken plenty of limbs in his time. It's just looking at Lesnar it's like as soon as it goes against him he just gives up. I suppose he has been the biggest baddest dude his entire life and he isn't used to not beating people down so easy.

 

[Nutz]

Lesnar was a beast wasn't he. He just wasn't a fighter if that makes sense.

Watch this one but I can't watch it again because it's so insane.


This is watchable because they just get out of it.


My take is Lesnar should have been able to get out of that because his knee was close to getting out but Mir is a massive dude who knows what he is doing. Mir has broken plenty of limbs in his time. It's just looking at Lesnar it's like as soon as it goes against him he just gives up. I suppose he has been the biggest baddest dude his entire life and he isn't used to not beating people down so easy.

My leg would've snapped just by fear alone

 

[Nutz]

Why am I referenced. @TooheysNew

 

[TooheysNew]

Because you'd had the same issue once before. Just thought it might help with your issue as well mate.

 

[Nutz]

Because you'd had the same issue once before. Just thought it might help with your issue as well mate.

I did? Nice to know anyway, thankyou.

 

[TooheysNew]

Yep. You mentioned it a bunch of times, such as here: https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/nrl-fantasy-coach-2025.493247/post-16604626

All my icon are shaded out like the bold button but they can't seem to fix it.

It's not something we can fix at our end, but it's easy for you to do yourself.

 

[Tiger05]

This is a good interview that describes the energy transition with some details for Australia.

My frame of the issue is as follows:-

Legacy Energy Systems:-

1. Coal power plants:- Coal plants have historically supplied the bulk of continuous demand, known as ‘baseload’, but this was more about the plants’ technical inflexibility than an inherent system need. Coal plants do not ramp up or down quickly in power requirements. A lot of these plants have been retired or will be. They are uneconomic to run due to the rise of renewable energy. Renewables are basically cheaper and coal power is often not economically viable. You could consider Nuclear as an alternative to coal but we didn't take this path in Australia. Nuclear is often very expensive in the West although it does not produce carbon.
2. Renewables:- you see solar panels all over the place but this has obviously happened recently. Wind and Solar were under 10% energy production but it's growing and will grow further. These are the cheapest sources of energy today.
3. Gas Peakers:- these are used to balance energy demand because coal does not ramp up quickly and renewables provide variable power.

Modern Energy Systems:-
1. Renewables:- solar is the predominant power source with wind as an alternative source. This is now the cheapest energy source available.
2. Firming systems that can manage short to long range variability in renewable production. Firming options are basically ways to store energy during peak production times (when energy is cheap) so that energy can be used when renewable production is insufficient to meet our energy requirements.

--> Firming options require a more detailed look to understand how they work:-
Short term (1-24 hours)- batteries..
Medium term (hours to multi-days)- pumped hydro energy storage (PHES) (Snowy 2.0). This is effectively a water battery. To be clear PHES can help manage daily as well as multi day vairability.
Seasonal term - this isn't clear cut just yet.

When it comes to comparing costs I think the following points are relevant and they can explain how electricity prices may increase especially during the transition phase:-

1. The legacy energy systems need to be replaced due to economic reasons. The coal plants we have are increasing becoming uneconomic to run.
2. Renewables are cheap. Batteries plus renewables are still cheap. In tandem batteries plus renewables are cheaper than the legacy approach.
3. Medium storage such as PHES (Hydro) is capital intensive but operationally cheap. So the cost is high to build (ala coal plants) but the operational costs are small (coal is expensive to run and inflexible). PHES is great at scaling up or down quickly.
4. To produce more renewables and utilize medium storage within the grid we also need to increase the transmission capabilities. As an example Snowy 2.0 needs to be able to transmit energy to the Melbourne and Sydney markets.
4. Seasonal storage will require solutions that are not currently technically viable apart from gas peakers. Gas Peakers are cheap to produce from a capital cost but expensive to run. Some of these will probably be required for insurance but they produce carbon and they are expensive so we want to get off them as soon as we have better technical options to meet these use cases. I should add that overbuilding renewables plus transmission reduces the need for seasonal storage but probably doesn't get rid of it.

So over time the expectation is that energy costs will decrease but we have to replace the existing legacy system with a new system and that won't be cheap. In stating that if we continue to run the legacy system we will end up with more expensive energy production.

So basically for the average punter short term I think energy costs could rise but over the longer term energy costs will decrease. Interestingly though replacing the legacy system is actually cheaper than maintaining the legacy system.

I'll just add that when the cookers come on and talk stuff they aren't providing an educated assessment of the issue. The energy transition is happening right now due to economic reasons. The legacy approach to energy production is being phased out not just due to reducing carbon but because legacy plants need to be replace and you don't replace them with outdated and expensive technology.

There are also a bunch of other use cases in the path towards net zero such as long distance transportation and cement production. The energy transition though is becoming more and more clear cut from a technical and economic perspective.

I'll add that I have an interest in the energy transition. I find it fascintating and the reason I post this big long post is that it helps me understand the issue.

 

[Tiger05]

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https://population.gov.au/sites/population.gov.au/files/2024-10/mortality_trends_-_deaths_of_despair.docx

Suicide tops the charts….thats so f**ked up too.

To me those drug deaths are an argument for legalization and harm reduction and not an argument for the current policies we implement.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

To me those drug deaths are an argument for legalization and harm reduction and not an argument for the current policies we implement.

I understand your position.

But under legalisation, you’d have a lot of problems.

Youd be right to suggest alcohol is very dangerous too.

If you came over, we’d make you feel at home, but we couldn’t offer you a beer as we don’t drink.

Not pious wowsers, just not part of our lives.

 

[Tiger05]

I understand your position.

But under legalisation, you’d have a lot of problems.

Youd be right to suggest alcohol is very dangerous too.

If you came over, we’d make you feel at home, but we couldn’t offer you a beer as we don’t drink.

Not pious wowsers, just not part of our lives.

I think there are two ways to view the world - evidence based or emotional. I think the only sane way to view the world is evidence based.

I am pretty sure the evidence says the harm minimization approach is the best and I am pretty sure that the way we police drugs is wrong.

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www.news.com.au

That article describes better policies from experts but interestingly Andrew Bolt is talking on Sky News in the article. That shows the two sides I am talking about without even listening to Bolt. The emotion and BS coming from the Murdoch press and the facts coming from experts.

I investigated the topic for a bit yesterday when I read your post. Most deaths are from opioids. They are also preventable. Most people with drug problems also have other problems. They need help.

 

[TroyJax]

To me those drug deaths are an argument for legalization and harm reduction and not an argument for the current policies we implement.

To me those drug deaths are a good thing for the communities.

 

[Nutz]

I think there are two ways to view the world - evidence based or emotional. I think the only sane way to view the world is evidence based.

I am pretty sure the evidence says the harm minimization approach is the best and I am pretty sure that the way we police drugs is wrong.

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www.news.com.au

That article describes better policies from experts but interestingly Andrew Bolt is talking on Sky News in the article. That shows the two sides I am talking about without even listening to Bolt. The emotion and BS coming from the Murdoch press and the facts coming from experts.

I investigated the topic for a bit yesterday when I read your post. Most deaths are from opioids. They are also preventable. Most people with drug problems also have other problems. They need help.

We've all have heard about families and friends, children, elderly etc being killed by peoole pissed as newts or under the influence of drugs.
The obvious reaction to this is to hit them with the harshest penalties.
I know if it was my partner or chidren, gkids etc, I would be screaming for that kind of justice.
Will that stop this sort of thing from happening again...no.
I heard that a youngin today on his P Plate just escaped death from speeding then crashing his car.
What I'm eluding to is education.
Usually a bad habit, trait or following a bad example (peers) often results in heartache.
A lot of this can be in senior years of high school where both victim and reformed offenders can give an account of their anguish and how peoples lives can be ruined in an instant.

 

[Nutz]

This is a good interview that describes the energy transition with some details for Australia.

My frame of the issue is as follows:-

Legacy Energy Systems:-

1. Coal power plants:- Coal plants have historically supplied the bulk of continuous demand, known as ‘baseload’, but this was more about the plants’ technical inflexibility than an inherent system need. Coal plants do not ramp up or down quickly in power requirements. A lot of these plants have been retired or will be. They are uneconomic to run due to the rise of renewable energy. Renewables are basically cheaper and coal power is often not economically viable. You could consider Nuclear as an alternative to coal but we didn't take this path in Australia. Nuclear is often very expensive in the West although it does not produce carbon.
2. Renewables:- you see solar panels all over the place but this has obviously happened recently. Wind and Solar were under 10% energy production but it's growing and will grow further. These are the cheapest sources of energy today.
3. Gas Peakers:- these are used to balance energy demand because coal does not ramp up quickly and renewables provide variable power.

Modern Energy Systems:-
1. Renewables:- solar is the predominant power source with wind as an alternative source. This is now the cheapest energy source available.
2. Firming systems that can manage short to long range variability in renewable production. Firming options are basically ways to store energy during peak production times (when energy is cheap) so that energy can be used when renewable production is insufficient to meet our energy requirements.

--> Firming options require a more detailed look to understand how they work:-
Short term (1-24 hours)- batteries..
Medium term (hours to multi-days)- pumped hydro energy storage (PHES) (Snowy 2.0). This is effectively a water battery. To be clear PHES can help manage daily as well as multi day vairability.
Seasonal term - this isn't clear cut just yet.

When it comes to comparing costs I think the following points are relevant and they can explain how electricity prices may increase especially during the transition phase:-

1. The legacy energy systems need to be replaced due to economic reasons. The coal plants we have are increasing becoming uneconomic to run.
2. Renewables are cheap. Batteries plus renewables are still cheap. In tandem batteries plus renewables are cheaper than the legacy approach.
3. Medium storage such as PHES (Hydro) is capital intensive but operationally cheap. So the cost is high to build (ala coal plants) but the operational costs are small (coal is expensive to run and inflexible). PHES is great at scaling up or down quickly.
4. To produce more renewables and utilize medium storage within the grid we also need to increase the transmission capabilities. As an example Snowy 2.0 needs to be able to transmit energy to the Melbourne and Sydney markets.
4. Seasonal storage will require solutions that are not currently technically viable apart from gas peakers. Gas Peakers are cheap to produce from a capital cost but expensive to run. Some of these will probably be required for insurance but they produce carbon and they are expensive so we want to get off them as soon as we have better technical options to meet these use cases. I should add that overbuilding renewables plus transmission reduces the need for seasonal storage but probably doesn't get rid of it.

So over time the expectation is that energy costs will decrease but we have to replace the existing legacy system with a new system and that won't be cheap. In stating that if we continue to run the legacy system we will end up with more expensive energy production.

So basically for the average punter short term I think energy costs could rise but over the longer term energy costs will decrease. Interestingly though replacing the legacy system is actually cheaper than maintaining the legacy system.

I'll just add that when the cookers come on and talk stuff they aren't providing an educated assessment of the issue. The energy transition is happening right now due to economic reasons. The legacy approach to energy production is being phased out not just due to reducing carbon but because legacy plants need to be replace and you don't replace them with outdated and expensive technology.

There are also a bunch of other use cases in the path towards net zero such as long distance transportation and cement production. The energy transition though is becoming more and more clear cut from a technical and economic perspective.

I'll add that I have an interest in the energy transition. I find it fascintating and the reason I post this big long post is that it helps me understand the issue.

Impressive Tiger.
Pool fencing requirements were introduced back in the 90's. Now people would be shocked to see a pool illegally void of a proper safety fence. It's a bit like smoking on a plane or a restraint.
So having said that Tiger, what do you say if any new building regardless of its class has to have both types of solar. Would that help?
Annoyingly enough, some people will leave lights on if our power bills were halved through rebates etc.

 

[Tiger05]

To me those drug deaths are a good thing for the communities.

You are a real merkin of a human being aren't you.

 

[Tiger05]

We've all have heard about families and friends, children, elderly etc being killed by peoole pissed as newts or under the influence of drugs.

Have we ? I suggest alcohol causes more issues than any other drug to society but we just let that one go.

 

[Tiger05]

So having said that Tiger, what do you say if any new building regardless of its class has to have both types of solar. Would that help?

I view solar as one simple type but the storage options are more complex.

I suppose I view it like this:-

Legacy:- mostly coal power with gas peakers to help because coal power plants cannot increase or decrease electricity production easily. It's expensive and bad for the environment and monolithic.

Modern:- solar and wind to generate electricity but mostly solar. The questions becomes how do we store energy that is variable. That storage has to be able to ramp up and down quickly in relation to production of electricity.

Batteries will handle a fair bit of storage but they aren't good at longer term storage - so multiple days and across seasons.

Hydro power is really good at storing electricity for multi-day lower energy production but not good enough for seasonal storage. The build of Snowy 2.0 was meant to be 6 billion dollars but it has blown out to 12 billion dollars. Personally I think this is cheap and a good deal. For some context the Subs we are buying and we may not even get are set to cost $360 billion.

There is basically a gap for seasonal storage. This is where gas peakers come in and why we are allowing gas production to remain. Gas peakers are cheap to build but they produce carbon and they are expensive to run.

The other issue is building transmission lines.

I basically think we have to build a tonne of solar and it's the backbone to the system but I don't really see how this is an issue. It's just a project execution issue. We can build solar panels all over the place. I think already it's something like 40% of households have rooftop solar. So adding it to buildings is more about making those buildings have lower electricity costs.

 

[TroyJax]

You are a real merkin of a human being aren't you.

Screw these druggo pieces of filth.
We need to draw a line in the sand. They contribute nothing but misery and are an absolute blight on humanity.
I care about people far more than you do if you want drugged up maniacs running around.
Wake the f**k up you idiot.