What can the RLWC learn from the 2015 RUWC?

[Last Week]

Well, 12 years ago, the RLIF was still pretty broke, which is the organisation that would be the driving force for developing other nations.

The RLIF have had money since the 08 cup and it's not obvious what's being done with it.

The lack of funds holds the international game back, but nothing more that the set up of it. It's all wrong.

 

[expansionist]

If you choose to learn nothing, then that is what you will learn.

OK Fair enough. Lets put it this way:

I choose to learn nothing from RU on the field, because from what I have seen there is nothing RL can learn from union on the field.

Off the field? Dont get me wrong - RL can learn heaps.

I am actually extremely jealous of union.

I am so jealous of the fact that despite having a substandard product they have everything else ahead of a much better game in RL. I am extremely jealous of the infrastructure and culture machine they have that produces millions of people who promote and identify with the game purely because of some kind of middle class syndrome that identifies them with the school they went to.

I am amazingly jealous of the huge lists of blue chip sponsors they have lining up to support their game.

I am jealous of the fact that their administration will run competitions that grow their game and benefit their product - even if its loss making in the short term.

I am so jealous of that union has an administration that values the international game above all else. I am jealous that their admin is clever enough to fight the battles against RL that actually matter, on their terms at their choosing - and get away with it.They cant compete at club level so they dont. They focus on the rep games and that grows their pie.

RL wins the club battle but loses the global war.

 

[TheFrog]

What can RL learn from the RUWC?

Play your final at a time its biggest audience can watch.

The match kicks off at 3am (Sydney/Melbourne) 2am (Brisbane) midnight (Perth) and 5am (NZ).

 

[paulmac]

What can RL learn from the RUWC?

Play your final at a time its biggest audience can watch.

The match kicks off at 3am (Sydney/Melbourne) 2am (Brisbane) midnight (Perth) and 5am (NZ).

Which for the RLWc final would mean 8pm Sydney 10pm NZ 11am London.

 

[BODISGOD]

What can RL learn from the RUWC?

Play your final at a time its biggest audience can watch.

The match kicks off at 3am (Sydney/Melbourne) 2am (Brisbane) midnight (Perth) and 5am (NZ).

I agree that the kick off time is strange, however, the biggest ratings will still be in France and the UK. It's also friendly for Argentina, Ireland, Japan, South Africa, the US ect.

I'm not sure why it isn't kicking off at 8pm though like the earlier Twickenham games were.

 

[adamkungl]

f**k I'd love to be in a packed out pub at 3am to watch a League WC final.

More likely than that happening though is a League WC final just not being televised at all :/

 

[Parra]

OK Fair enough. Lets put it this way:

I choose to learn nothing from RU on the field, because from what I have seen there is nothing RL can learn from union on the field.

You have such a shallow understanding of footy?

 

[expansionist]

You have such a shallow understanding of footy?

I have no idea what youre attempting to imply here - but honestly, can you tell me one thing that RL can learn from union on the field?

I cant think of any.

 

[Parra]

You've already said that.

If you don't get it, stop watching.

 

[langpark]

Some of these numbers are just staggering..... Not just the profits but 98% of all tickets sold!! That's incredible and something we should aspire too for WC2017. It is actually achievable too if the right stadiums are selected.


RWC Final Delivers Record Numbers
5 November 2015 by Tim Groves
The emotion of last weekend’s final has had time to subside and the misty eyes have cleared but the cold, hard facts support the assertion that this has been the most successful Rugby World Cup ever.
The tournament’s commercial success has already been confirmed with almost 2.5 million tickets sold, generating £250 million, and the RFU confirming that its target of a £15 million surplus on top of ER2015’s £80 million surplus has been achieved.
The WRU is also reportedly set to benefit to the tune of £10 million from the tournament as a whole after the Millennium Stadium was used to stage eight matches.
However, it is the global scale and reach of the 2015 Rugby World Cup that has perhaps been its biggest success as a total of 120 million people across the planet watched New Zealand’s 34-17 win over Australia in the final on Saturday.
That is the huge rise on the global television audience of 33 million for the 2007 final and the showpiece occasion in 2011 is thought to have attracted a similar figure.
It is unclear how many viewers were glued to their screens in new and emerging rugby nations but 97 per cent of the total global audience for the 2007 Rugby World Cup final came from the old Five Nations and Tri Nations countries, so significant progress has been made since then.
Japan’s shock victory over South Africa in their opening game in Brighton prompted 25 million people in the country to watch their subsequent win overSamoa, breaking the record for the biggest national television audience for a Rugby World Cup match.
And, as many as eight million German viewers had watched at least some of the Rugby World Cup action by the end of the quarter-final weekend.
Despite no home nations presence, ITV’s coverage of the final on Saturday achieved a peak viewing figure of 8.2 million and an average of 4.7 million, which was a 32 per cent share of the total television audience at the time.
The bronze medal match between South Africa and Argentina was watched by 2.1 million on ITV.
The day of the Rugby World Cup final saw 560,000 tweets posted about the match and ‪#‎RWC2015‬ was used an incredible five million times during the course of the tournament as a whole – that’s twice per second.
Rugby World Cup videos had 270 million views on the various channels, the official website had 25 million unique users and the app was downloaded 2.8 million times.
It is the 2,474,584 tickets sold – World Rugby claims that means an average of 98 per cent of tickets were sold across all venues – that has generated such significant revenue but some of the other statistics are just as vital as they suggest that the tournament may have even more room to grow.

 

[Last Week]

However, it is the global scale and reach of the 2015 Rugby World Cup that has perhaps been its biggest success as a total of 120 million people across the planet watched New Zealand’s 34-17 win over Australia in the final on Saturday.
That is the huge rise on the global television audience of 33 million for the 2007 final and the showpiece occasion in 2011 is thought to have attracted a similar figure.

This can be explained by the fact that this world cup was played at a more friendly time for European viewers.

Still amazing. Imagine what £250million could do for the RLIF. Achievable, but will be hard work. Harder for us to get to that stage than it was for UnuinUnion.

 

[adamkungl]

RLIF doesn't need anywhere near that sort of cash to achieve it's short to medium goals, but it does need some.

I imagine they could do a lot of good with even $25 million after the next world cup..

 

[parrawentyfan]

I have no idea what youre attempting to imply here - but honestly, can you tell me one thing that RL can learn from union on the field?

I cant think of any.

Players should be able to wear gloves. Better ball control

 

[miguel de cervantes]

RL has a lot to learn on the field in terms of improvised play. Union is a lot more ad-hoc, league has become, in my opinion, over structured. This is more a coaching thing though.

 

[Last Week]

Players should be able to wear gloves. Better ball control

I actually agree with this and struggle to see why we can't use gloves.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

RL has a lot to learn on the field in terms of improvised play. Union is a lot more ad-hoc, league has become, in my opinion, over structured. This is more a coaching thing though.

I think that it's an inevitability of a contact sport that involves all four limbs.

Soccer and basketball don't have that problem since they have so many restrictions on touching/holding the ball.

I think the various rugby codes are only going to be become more and more defined by stoppages and defined periods of play. The American rugby codes have lead the way.

 

[Parra]

I think that it's an inevitability of a contact sport that involves all four limbs.

Soccer and basketball don't have that problem since they have so many restrictions on touching/holding the ball.

I think the various rugby codes are only going to be become more and more defined by stoppages and defined periods of play. The American rugby codes have lead the way.

Union is more fluid - or at least can be depending on the practitioners. The ball is in play for long periods and for many plays a lot of the players on the field are involved. It clearly has it's structured moments, even in general play, but obviously in set plays. RL is by rule definition more structured and for many pieces of general play it is almost pre-determined which players will be involved. NFL takes this movement to the extreme. Although, in many NFL plays, most of the players on the field are directly involved.