What is the best way to count Premierships??

[siv]

Excellent can you tell home many premierships the team called

Sydney

has won ?

Happy to include all mascot derivatives and you can include all 3

As long as the team is called Sydney

Does the Amco cup count ????

You should count Amco Cups / City Cups / League Cups / Stare Cups/Championships / Midweek Cup / Pre Season Cups / 7s / 9s / 11s / 40 min knockouts / WCC

And you can throw in RG / 3G / Presidents Cups / Flegg Cups / SG Ball Cups and Matts

Should be interesting to read all of that as a whole

 

[Springs09]

'To make it less one sided' should read, to show a fairer comparison of strength. Apart from Inglis, when did a nsw player play against his own state?

Clive Churchill played one game for Queensland in 1959 after he went to Norths in Brisbane to finish his career. That's the only one I know off the top of my head.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Clive Churchill played one game for Queensland in 1959 after he went to Norths in Brisbane to finish his career. That's the only one I know off the top of my head.

You can add John Sattler to the list. Played in all 3 games for Qld and was captain to boot in the 1973 inter-state series - https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/john-sattler/summary.html

Interestingly one Mr W. Bennett was in that 1973 Qld team.

 

[kbw]

If you are going to get all special about how many premierships your team has won you have to celebrate the spoons as well. The history of the club is the history the good and the bad.
Celebrate your team for everything that they are.

Fortunately or unfortunately the most important thing is what your team is now

 

[juro]

The premiership that counts the most is the next one.

That one is a bit hard to measure. However, if we go on to say that the next most important premiership is the last one, and carry on that logic, the value of a premiership fades with age. What worth is there in a premiership that occurred before anyone alive today can remember?

If we were to apply a 3% p.a. discount to all premierships, the premiership won 10 years ago (Sea Eagles) is now only worth 0.74 of the Roosters 2018 premiership. The Broncos 1998 premiership is worth 0.55. The Bulldogs 1988 premiership is worth 0.41. And so on and so on until the Rabbitohs 1908 premiership is only worth 0.04 of the Roosters 2018 premiership.

Adding all the discounted premerships gives us the following ranking:
1. Roosters: 3.71
2. Sea Eagles: 3.60
3. Broncos: 3.32
4. Rabbitohs: 3.23
5. St George: 2.90
6. Bulldogs: 2.85
7. Storm: 2.38
8. Eels: 1.42
9. Raiders: 1.35
10. Knights: 1.14
11. Panthers: 1.09
12. Balmain: 1.00
13. Sharks: 0.94
14. Cowboys: 0.92
15. Dragons: 0.79
16. Tigers: 0.68
17. Magpies: 0.43
18. Newtown: 0.23
19. Norths: 0.12

And zooming on 1998-2018, we have:

We have had the following teams leading the premiership tally over the years:
1908-1911: Rabbitohs
1912-1916: Roosters
1917: Balmain
1918: Rabbitohs
1919-1926: Balmain
1927-1944: Rabbitohs
1945-1946: Roosters
1947-1949: Balmain
1950-1961: Rabbitohs
1962-1970: St George
1971-1976: Rabbitohs
1977-2005: St George
2006-2010: Broncos
2011-2017: Sea Eagles
2018: Roosters

 

[ram raid]

Most prefer the decimal way, but I like to use the Roman system. But there aint no roman numeral for the Warriors nulla premierships.

 

[Valheru]

That one is a bit hard to measure. However, if we go on to say that the next most important premiership is the last one, and carry on that logic, the value of a premiership fades with age. What worth is there in a premiership that occurred before anyone alive today can remember?

If we were to apply a 3% p.a. discount to all premierships, the premiership won 10 years ago (Sea Eagles) is now only worth 0.74 of the Roosters 2018 premiership. The Broncos 1998 premiership is worth 0.55. The Bulldogs 1988 premiership is worth 0.41. And so on and so on until the Rabbitohs 1908 premiership is only worth 0.04 of the Roosters 2018 premiership.

Adding all the discounted premerships gives us the following ranking:
1. Roosters: 3.71
2. Sea Eagles: 3.60
3. Broncos: 3.32
4. Rabbitohs: 3.23
5. St George: 2.90
6. Bulldogs: 2.85
7. Storm: 2.38
8. Eels: 1.42
9. Raiders: 1.35
10. Knights: 1.14
11. Panthers: 1.09
12. Balmain: 1.00
13. Sharks: 0.94
14. Cowboys: 0.92
15. Dragons: 0.79
16. Tigers: 0.68
17. Magpies: 0.43
18. Newtown: 0.23
19. Norths: 0.12

And zooming on 1998-2018, we have:

We have had the following teams leading the premiership tally over the years:
1908-1911: Rabbitohs
1912-1916: Roosters
1917: Balmain
1918: Rabbitohs
1919-1926: Balmain
1927-1944: Rabbitohs
1945-1946: Roosters
1947-1949: Balmain
1950-1961: Rabbitohs
1962-1970: St George
1971-1976: Rabbitohs
1977-2005: St George
2006-2010: Broncos
2011-2017: Sea Eagles
2018: Roosters

Great work

The bolded part pleases me.

 

[Generalzod]

How many teams did play in the early 1900's...???

 

[Captain Apollo]

How many teams did play in the early 1900's...???

Teams in the then NSWRL First Grade in 1908 - Glebe, Newcastle, Souths, Norths, Balmain, Wests, Easts and Newtown.

Teams in the then NSWRL First Grade in 1909 - Glebe, Newcastle, Souths, Norths, Balmain, Wests, Easts and Newtown.

Teams in the then NSWRL First Grade in 1910 - Glebe, Souths, Norths, Balmain, Wests, Easts, Newtown and Annandale.

If you want more details for later years, try here - https://afltables.com/rl/seas/season_idx.html

 

[siv]

Dont forget Cumberland ala Parramatta in 1908

 

[thorson1987]

I find using numbers the best method

Agree. I think the best way is to count the number of premierships each team has won in the course of history, arriving at a total that, all things being considered, should be approximately in line with the exact amount of premierships they have in fact won.

Still the 2 most relevant answers.

 

[Differ To The Coifed]

As a sharks fan I use my dick

 

[Cockosh]

I don’t think forfeits should be counted.

 

[Differ To The Coifed]

I don’t think forfeits should be counted.

It’s long but I wouldn’t say four foot.

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

It is way too easy for people to use this NSWRL or ARL or NRL or BRL argument to discount the achievements of clubs they don't care for or outright hate. I can't stand the Dragons, but I don't go around with a megaphone saying their premierships from the 60's are no longer valid. By that logic, why are Provan and Summons on the trophy? They're from a totally different era and competition after all....

No, it's a stupid idea. History being written doesn't mean shit if you can take a correction pen to it whenever it pleases you. Melbourne 2007 and 2009 don't count because they cheated. That's a reasonable explanation for premierships meaning nothing. Being from a comp that doesn't exist anymore is not.

 

[Charlie124]

The premiership that counts the most is the next one.

More accurately though, the even more most important one is the 2015 one. The people's premiership.

 

[beave]

More accurately though, the even more most important one is the 2015 one. The people's premiership.

I almost forgot

 

[TheFrog]

If we were to apply a 3% p.a. discount to all premierships, the premiership won 10 years ago (Sea Eagles) is now only worth 0.74 of the Roosters 2018 premiership.

Shouldn't the 3% only be of the remaining portion? You'd need about 10 decimal places of course.

Edit: Just worked out you've already done that.

 

[theo]

That one is a bit hard to measure. However, if we go on to say that the next most important premiership is the last one, and carry on that logic, the value of a premiership fades with age. What worth is there in a premiership that occurred before anyone alive today can remember?

If we were to apply a 3% p.a. discount to all premierships, the premiership won 10 years ago (Sea Eagles) is now only worth 0.74 of the Roosters 2018 premiership. The Broncos 1998 premiership is worth 0.55. The Bulldogs 1988 premiership is worth 0.41. And so on and so on until the Rabbitohs 1908 premiership is only worth 0.04 of the Roosters 2018 premiership.

Adding all the discounted premerships gives us the following ranking:
1. Roosters: 3.71
2. Sea Eagles: 3.60
3. Broncos: 3.32
4. Rabbitohs: 3.23
5. St George: 2.90
6. Bulldogs: 2.85
7. Storm: 2.38
8. Eels: 1.42
9. Raiders: 1.35
10. Knights: 1.14
11. Panthers: 1.09
12. Balmain: 1.00
13. Sharks: 0.94
14. Cowboys: 0.92
15. Dragons: 0.79
16. Tigers: 0.68
17. Magpies: 0.43
18. Newtown: 0.23
19. Norths: 0.12

And zooming on 1998-2018, we have:

We have had the following teams leading the premiership tally over the years:
1908-1911: Rabbitohs
1912-1916: Roosters
1917: Balmain
1918: Rabbitohs
1919-1926: Balmain
1927-1944: Rabbitohs
1945-1946: Roosters
1947-1949: Balmain
1950-1961: Rabbitohs
1962-1970: St George
1971-1976: Rabbitohs
1977-2005: St George
2006-2010: Broncos
2011-2017: Sea Eagles
2018: Roosters

A lot of thought and process gone into that.

When an old person dies the history fades and when a young person dies the future fades.

I support Saints and your rank conclusions are similar to my thread https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/final-wins.472429

 

[siv]

Too confusing

Maybe we should consider premierships from the first 25 years more important than the last 25 years

As rules were a greater flux, players couldnt be replaced in the second half and players were actually send off and you played for a team where you lived

You could play a 4 man front row or 2 5/8s

They played with real leather pig skins and proper leather boots

Just because you cant remember players like Dally M or Horder doesnt mean their achievements are less worthy than todays stars