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What is the Minor Premiership worth?

CC_Roosters

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Should be the ultimate prize really imo. The grand final and playoff system is flawed and I believe first past the post is the true indication of a champion team and gives the season most integrity if played full home and away.
 
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The following article was published in today's Sydney Morning Herald -

September 1 2016 - 9:34AM

Melbourne Storm co-owner blasts NRL over 'embarrassing' minor premiership reward
by Adrian Proszenko



Storm co-owner Matthew Tripp has labelled the $100,000 sum awarded to the minor premiers as "embarrassing" and claims the NRL won't be taken as seriously as the AFL, which offers nearly six times as much in its prizemoney pool.

Melbourne will host Cronulla at AAMI Park on Saturday night in a clash that decides the minor premiership. The winner will be presented with the J.J Giltinan Shield and a cheque for $100,000, the reward for being the most consistent team over 26 regular-season rounds. However, the clubs feel the amount is too low, particularly when compared to the riches on offer in other sports.

The AFL doesn't offer a cash prize for finishing the regular season in top spot. However, it awards $71,000 each for the two clubs eliminated in the first week of the finals, $110,000 for those in the second round, a $330,000 cheque for losing preliminary finalists and $660,000 for the runners-up. The AFL premiers pocket $1.2 million, bringing the AFL's total prizemoney pool to $2.882 million.

In the NRL week one losing teams receive $20,000, week 2 losers get $30,000 and losing preliminary finalists are awarded $100,000 per team. The grand finalists split $600,000 with the losers receiving $200,000 and the winners $400,000.

Tripp said the disparity reflected badly on the NRL administration. "$100,000 is embarrassing for the amount of work that goes in over the course of a pre-season and a season," Tripp told Fairfax Media.

"The prestige of winning the minor premiership has waned quite considerably and it's certainly not front of mind for a lot of clubs these days because the incentive isn't there. If they want to be seen as a peer of, and on equal footing to, the AFL, there are areas [league administrators] need to improve in order to be taken as seriously as the AFL. This is obviously one key area that they need to fix.

"I would dearly love to be able to reward the entire club for the amount of work that goes in over the course of those 26 rounds.

"But we have a huge payroll that are not just players, we've got an administerial roster, and $100,000 doesn't go very far.

"Given that's what everyone is striving towards, I don't see a just reward for consistency. The most consistent club all year should be rewarded in a better manner.

"You would hope it would be in line with the AFL where everyone would get their just desserts.

"It's not that anyone tries any less but the prize at the end of it is ho-hum by comparison to their main rival code in the AFL."

Cronulla beat Melbourne in round four, but the southerners are the favourites this time as they try to claim their second minor premiership. While the Storm are trying to maintain a foothold in traditional Australian Rules territory, AFL minor premiers Sydney are already guaranteed a bigger payday after dominating during the regular season. It's possible the other Sydney AFL side, the fourth-ranked GWS Giants, could also finish off their campaign with more prizemoney than the NRL's major and minor premiers.

Tripp said the disparity was made more farcical by the riches on offer at the Auckland Nines. The Nines winner takes home $370,000, while clubs are guaranteed $110,000 just for turning up.

"[The Nines] is a touch footy game, you put in your B-grade side to experiment and take your sponsors over there on a bit of a junket," Tripp said. "All of a sudden they get nearly four times as much as the real deal. It's completely the wrong way around."

The NRL has previously stated it would be prepared to up the premiership and minor premiership prizemoney, but only if the clubs agreed to a commensurate reduction in their annual grants. But the fact the governing body has been bolstered financially by the new broadcast deal means the issue could be revisited at a meeting of club chief executives on Thursday. League powerbrokers will gather to discuss a range of issues including the bunker, licensing agreements and the upcoming collective bargaining agreement negotiations, which will affect the salary cap from 2018.

Several club bosses also want to vent over the NRL's decision not to make Parramatta carry Kieran Foran's $150,000 payout figure in their salary cap.

An earlier version of this story stated that the NRL awarded an overall total of $500,000 to teams that made the finals. The amount is $1 million.

If you read the above article and compare what the AFL awards as prize money compared to the NRL, the NRL does come off as very miserly indeed.
 

RockWheel

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Should be the ultimate prize really imo. The grand final and playoff system is flawed and I believe first past the post is the true indication of a champion team and gives the season most integrity if played full home and away.
Pretty boring though.
 

davi

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Should be the ultimate prize really imo. The grand final and playoff system is flawed and I believe first past the post is the true indication of a champion team and gives the season most integrity if played full home and away.

Minor premiership has it flaws. There are teams in the past that could have won the minor premiership if hadn't been for missing key players through state of origin.

Grand Final will always be the ultimate prize because you have to perform under the most intense pressure.
 

Canard

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The comparison to the Nines is a bit disingenuous.

If they didn't offer decent money for the Nines, it would be a battle of the nobodies, so its not a like for like comparision.

I'd go with no money for the Minor Preimership (like the AFL) and extra monies for the finals teams.
 

adamkungl

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We shouldn't just copy the AFL (or anyone else) BUT we should look at other options rather than assuming our way is the best. And it's pretty easy to conclude that our way is not the best.

The NRL is a competition. A competition that requires a $15-20million annual input just to compete in. And there's basically no prize for winning it other than being noted down in the history books. This is a professional sport ffs, act like it once in a while.

As another example - The NFL gives bonuses of ~$100,000 USD (5.3 million total) to every player on the Superbowl winning roster, with half of that to the runners up, and smaller amounts depending on playoff progress. Obviously working on a totally different scale to Australian comps, but the idea has some merit.

If the NRL gave $1mil for the premiership and $500k for the minor, and clubs took half (seems to be a common arrangement), players would receive $30,000 each for winning the double. About on par with playing in SOO or a Kangaroos game. Hardly unreasonable I think, since they've won the entire comp.
 

moffla

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Not saying this because my team is a chance of winning it this year, but I've always felt it's a little under credited. Being on top after 26 rounds shows your team has been the most consistent and the best performers all year. While finals will rightfully always hold the largest prestige, not enough credit is given to the minor premiers.

Anyway - doesn't make me any less excited for Saturday!
 

myrrh ken

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top 5 was hands down the best and fairest system. Didn't give the top half a chance and gave the minor prems an advantage.

Maybe Benji should be allocated to team the spooners.
 

Perth Red

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In some ways it is much harder to win the minor premiership than the GF as you have to consistently win, but as the fixtures are not equal and origin skews results it is hard to say the team that finishes top is actually the best team. Still, earning less for the achievement than just turning up at a pre season friendly tournament is a bit of a joke.
 

Canard

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Not saying this because my team is a chance of winning it this year, but I've always felt it's a little under credited. Being on top after 26 rounds shows your team has been the most consistent and the best performers all year. While finals will rightfully always hold the largest prestige, not enough credit is given to the minor premiers.

Anyway - doesn't make me any less excited for Saturday!

In some ways it is much harder to win the minor premiership than the GF as you have to consistently win, but as the fixtures are not equal and origin skews results it is hard to say the team that finishes top is actually the best team. Still, earning less for the achievement than just turning up at a pre season friendly tournament is a bit of a joke.

Continuing the above points, without a true home and away season, teams having 5 or 6 players missing for Origins (and backing up days after them) makes the minor premiership not as big an achievement as it could be.

Also I understand the prizemoney for the Nines is put up by a private party (and not the NRL)? Is that correct?
 

thorson1987

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Continuing the above points, without a true home and away season, teams having 5 or 6 players missing for Origins (and backing up days after them) makes the minor premiership not as big an achievement as it could be.

Also I understand the prizemoney for the Nines is put up by a private party (and not the NRL)? Is that correct?

Yes re. 9's prize money.
 

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