What Now?

[Cheese sandwich]

Anyone blaming Hynes for the loss last night shows the true definition of "ignorance is bliss" in terms of rugby league knowledge.

I'm definitely not blaming him, that dropped ball in the context of the game was a bit "there's Nicho" though

 

[Craigshark]

I’m not sure what everyone expects from nicho.. he has just become a lazy/easy target for most I feel. I get he is probably a 6 more than a 7, but the style we play, he plays more 6 anyway and just wears the 7. He set up or scored pretty much all the points against Canberra last week and had hands in both of our tries last night. Dominated the dogs too without trindall. Yeah he’s kicking game isn’t great. That’s why Trindall does the majority of it. His defence is top notch and he doesn’t mind being physical. It’s hard to play off the back foot for any half when your forwards get dominated like they did last night. Almost put Nikora over too if Nikora could have just gotten lower to the ground.

Melbourne were on big time last night. I know I’ve posted it in other threads, but I really believe we were coming to get them until the trindall strip, which broke us and we turned to the panicked/frazzle structure/bridge too far football we’ve done many times in those situations which a team like Melbourne will eat up.

 

[Craigshark]

Why are we kicking to corners 8 down with 8
to go in a prelim? That’s where I question Fitzy and feel the message needs to go out to try plan B if there is one. In particular given the fact Warbrick and Pap hadn’t looked like dropping a bomb all night

 

[bad boy bubby]

I'm definitely not blaming him, that dropped ball in the context of the game was a bit "there's Nicho" though

No that was not good at all, but off the top of my head I could rattle off many things that were worse.
Braileys 3 x times horrific passes from dummy half
Tricky's brain snap stripping the ball, which in my opinion really cost us the game mentally.
Teighs defence.

Hynes combination with WK for TTF first try was sublime, his ball to Nikora was superb, and usually that is a try, and if so would have changed the whole complex of the match.
See what I'm getting at?

 

[Surely]

Tricky gave up 3 penalties and a 6 again

And people are bagging Hynes

 

[Craigshark]

Tricky gave up 3 penalties and a 6 again

And people are bagging Hynes

yep, and while I don’t agree with the one on Hughes, he could have totally avoided putting himself in that situation to begin with.

 

[1990 sharkie]

Anyone blaming Hynes for the loss last night shows the true definition of "ignorance is bliss" in terms of rugby league knowledge.

Can't exactly blame him when there were sets when he wouldn't touch the ball. Last week he was a gun and this weak a coward . Others were too

 

[DJDL]

Just on Brails, everyone is saying an ankle problem.
It looked like back to me.

They showed him limping around pre-game and he stopped to stretch.
The stretches he was doing looked like easing lower back strain, and I saw him talking to a trainer and I swear he said the word "back".

That might go a way to explaining his issues with passing off the deck last night.

 

[Weaponhead]

I'm definitely not blaming him, that dropped ball in the context of the game was a bit "there's Nicho" though

Hynes was fine overall. The cold drop was poor. He had a big look. He had couple of disappointing effort plays in the second half. Didn't clean up the loose ball that Howarth beat him to and his chase on their last try was slower than me.

He iced the pass to Kennedy, put Burns into the hole for Katoa's second try and Nikora in position where he should have scored. He created opportunities which is what he is there to do.

His long kicking game is ordinary as it always has been. His defence was good but took a couple dummies from Munster.

Hynes wasn't the issue last night. His finals series was strong overall. He is what he is and is signed for years.

 

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Why are we kicking to corners 8 down with 8
to go in a prelim? That’s where I question Fitzy and feel the message needs to go out to try plan B if there is one. In particular given the fact Warbrick and Pap hadn’t looked like dropping a bomb all night

But that's where the spine should be able to think on there feet, I could bet the Panthers spine without being told would try something

 

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Tricky gave up 3 penalties and a 6 again

And people are bagging Hynes

Two prelims in a row Trindall has not measured up, the strip was ridiculous, that killed us stone dead

 

[Stake Removed]

Hynes was fine overall. The cold drop was poor. He had a big look. He had couple of disappointing effort plays in the second half. Didn't clean up the loose ball that Howarth beat him to and his chase on their last try was slower than me.

He iced the pass to Kennedy, put Burns into the hole for Katoa's second try and Nikora in position where he should have scored. He created opportunities which is what he is there to do.

His long kicking game is ordinary as it always has been. His defence was good but took a couple dummies from Munster.

Hynes wasn't the issue last night. His finals series was strong overall. He is what he is and is signed for years.

Missing the conversions didn't help he kicks first one we would have been in front yes it's early but can change the game, but too miss both and not look like getting them is not a confidence builder for anyone

 

[Weaponhead]

Two prelims in a row Trindall has not measured up, the strip was ridiculous, that killed us stone dead

The strip was a very poor play. Have to trust the defence to get the job done. He gets too many rushes of blood in big games. Time for him to grow up.

 

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No that was not good at all, but off the top of my head I could rattle off many things that were worse.
Braileys 3 x times horrific passes from dummy half
Tricky's brain snap stripping the ball, which in my opinion really cost us the game mentally.
Teighs defence.

Hynes combination with WK for TTF first try was sublime, his ball to Nikora was superb, and usually that is a try, and if so would have changed the whole complex of the match.
See what I'm getting at?

Yes I can but the player his opposite that side of the field the veteran 5/8 out played him, he would jam Nicho with the ball, the amount of times we let him run with the ball, it's like they didn't want to move on him.
Nicho should be the big game player the bigger the game the better he performs, but we never see him rip a team apart in a finals game.
We have had wins but he never destroys a team the ice cold perfection is not there.
I have seen other halves do it but he cant

 

[Craigshark]

Can't exactly blame him when there were sets when he wouldn't touch the ball. Last week he was a gun and this weak a coward . Others were too

a coward? That’s like saying he dogged it.. Haha I’ve heard it all.. that’s tough coming from someone behind a keyboard. Seriously, grow up

 

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Hynes was fine overall. The cold drop was poor. He had a big look. He had couple of disappointing effort plays in the second half. Didn't clean up the loose ball that Howarth beat him to and his chase on their last try was slower than me.

He iced the pass to Kennedy, put Burns into the hole for Katoa's second try and Nikora in position where he should have scored. He created opportunities which is what he is there to do.

His long kicking game is ordinary as it always has been. His defence was good but took a couple dummies from Munster.

Hynes wasn't the issue last night. His finals series was strong overall. He is what he is and is signed for years.

Asking this question when was last time Hynes actually broke the line clean and sprinted, asking this because I don't see it.
He is not old like Adam Reynolds, but he honestly seems to be slowing down and it's noticeable.
It's basically like he dosent want to sprint, Moyza was slow, Hynes will give him a good run.
It's the combo Hynes/Trindall big games I dont think it works

 

[Stake Removed]

The strip was a very poor play. Have to trust the defence to get the job done. He gets too many rushes of blood in big games. Time for him to grow up.

It's like week 2 of finals he plays immense then he is all over place week 3

 

[Stake Removed]

The back 5 I would start next season depending if Ison available

1. Ison/Mulitalo
2. Katoa/ Stonestreet
3. Gabreal /Hiroti
4. Iro
5. Mulitalo/Stonestreet

I would have Kennedy and Ramien gone.
A shootout between Gabreal and Hiroti
Same with Katoa and Stonestreet

Kennedy and Ramien have won't get any better

 

[shaggs]

Calling Munster a veteran that should be shut down because he is old and suggesting he is past it? Wow.
Hynes and Munster are 18 months apart in age.

Munster will go down as the best 6 of the current generation. He has and will continue to be one of the best and most winning-ess players until he retires. The bloke has weird strength for his size, a great turn of speed over ten metres and a Maloney type memory for bad plays.
Loose cannon off the field which makes him one of the best on it.

Anyone who suggests that the sharks spine is near the same the level as the storm, both individually and as a combo doesn’t get it. Put any of those guys into our team last night and I reckon we win.

Imagine Pappy at 1 for us.??

 

[PJ]

Calling Munster a veteran that should be shut down because he is old and suggesting he is past it? Wow.
Hynes and Munster are 18 months apart in age.

Munster will go down as the best 6 of the current generation. He has and will continue to be one of the best and most winning-ess players until he retires. The bloke has weird strength for his size, a great turn of speed over ten metres and a Maloney type memory for bad plays.
Loose cannon off the field which makes him one of the best on it.

Anyone who suggests that the sharks spine is near the same the level as the storm, both individually and as a combo doesn’t get it. Put any of those guys into our team last night and I reckon we win.

Imagine Pappy at 1 for us.??

Yep.

The only one of our spine that is even close to their counterpart is Brailey, and he was far behind last night.

The 1,6 and 7 are miles behind.