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When did you know that your team would win the big one?

Wizardman

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The tigers really clocked off the last 2 rounds. Had won 8 straight, were assured of a top 4 berth and had 2 eyes on the finals. Lead early v the panthers and then played in dinner suits for the next 60 mins. The next 4 weeks proved what they were thinking about.

I took a group of indigenous kids to a snow trip around Canberra that year. News filtered through on our bus that Wests Tigers lost to Penrith that day. The kids gave me curry about it. I said to them in reply that when the Tigers win the 2005 premiership, I'd buy each and every one of them a Tigers cap.
About six weeks and $270 later, I presented all 16 kids with a 2005 premiership cap.
 
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Id like to hear the sharks views on this....

It was 1978 a few minutes to go, a scrum was formed in front of Manly's posts, scores locked at 11 all, and they did a blatant second row feed, Steve Rogers, Cronulla's captain, exclaims to referee Greg Hartley:
"That was a second row feed!"
Hartley's reply:
"You don't want to win a grand final on a scrum penalty" (or words to that effect)

For the young'uns here, you once had to feed the ball into the middle of the scrum and if you didn't it was a penalty, and you could kick for goal.
Anyway that's the closest I've "known".
 
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Big Pete

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In 2000, the Broncos entered a purple patch just after the Origin series that made them irresistible. From that point on, it seemed like the Broncos premiership to lose. Outside of a couple of anxious moments (Webcke breaking his arm in Round 24, the first half of the qualifying final) it seemed in the bag.

In 2006, I agree with Frank that the turning point was the Round 23 clash against Melbourne, but I didn't buy into the Broncos as a premiership team until that try to Berrigan in the prelim final. There was just something so special about that play that I really began to dream.

Rapid fire...

2001 - It seemed like Parra's year right up until the grand final. In hindsight, the qualifying final against Sydney was the defining moment.

2002 - Similarly, it was the Bulldogs year until the salary cap scandal erupted. At that very moment, the Roosters were the form team of the competition, so it defaulted to them.

2003 - I jumped on the Penrith bandwagon in Round 3 of that season and they never gave me a reason to get off.

2004 - I thought Fittler would go out with a premiership, but the Bulldogs really came to my attention when they smacked Brisbane infront of a massive crowd.

2005 - I truly thought it was the Broncos year until the Dragons beat them at Suncorp then I had no idea who it was going to be. The Tigers 50-6 win in the QF made them the form side of the finals and once they got past St George it was all down-hill skiing from there.

2007 - Early on in the piece when Melbourne, Manly and North Queensland were the top three undefeated sides. I had concerns over GI @ Five Eighth, but they were alleviated very quickly.

2008 - Not until the GF. I believed in superstitions and thought that since Orford won the Dally M, the Sea Eagles wouldn't win the premiership. In hindsight, it was really stupid and it was fairly obvious that Manly were going to fair much better in the qualifying finals. Once Smith was rubbed out, it was theirs to lose.

2009 - Definitely the most open premiership since 2005. It seemed like Parra and Brisbane had hit form at just the right time, but then reality sunk in and Melbourne reminded everyone that they had a roster that was too good to be true.

2010 - Even before the Storm were eliminated, I thought it would be the Dragons year and once Melbourne were reduced to a non-factor it was cemented. I can't remember my justification beyond being more familiar with Bennett's set-up and the roster being better situated.

2011 - When the Warriors dispatched Melbourne. I thought it was going to be their year, but like in 2008, New Zealand did their part in Manly's rise to premiership glory. Before that, I really liked DCE's performance against the Broncos in the final round of the regular season and thought Manly would be thereabouts.

2012 - Always seemed like Melbourne had it in the bag. Canterbury had a fantastic regular season, but it usually takes one blown chance before you can win one and that's what happened here with Melbourne.

2013 - Round 26 changed everything for me. I had it down as South Sydney's year but after that night, especially that second half, it felt like the Roosters had eaten their lunch and were going to take out the premiership. Manly's win over Souths confirmed it and while the GF itself was touch and go (making it one of the more underrated GF in history) it always seemed like Sydney's year. Wolfman's horrific performance cemented it.

2014 - Like with Melbourne in 2012, it usually takes one blown year before you can take it out so despite a couple of red herrings (Burgess leaving etc.) they went into the year as favourites. And like other years before, it seemed like it was decided in the first week of the finals when Souths blew Manly off the park, while Sydney had their pants pulled down by Penrith.

2015 - I said as soon as Josh McGuire went down, that it ended the teams hopes of winning the GF and felt like those were fairly ominous words. I really wanted to be wrong and as soon as Milford made his break in the dying stages, I thought I was. But even then, taking the Broncos bias out of it, I thought after the qualifying final we'd meet the Cowboys again and they had more room for improvement. They responded with two big wins and it just seemed like it was their time.
 

Cheops

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2003 - after flogging the bulldogs in week 1 of the finals with Francis Meli scoring 5 tries, I knew the long wait for a warriors premiership would soon be over
 

thorson1987

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1999 - Although I was still a young Bears fan at the time, watching as a neutral I knew from this moment that Melbourne would win.

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2007

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2009

GIs try when no one contested the ball. Although there was a few nervous moments especially when Moi Moi scored.

2012

At full time of the prelim.

After the disappointment of the previous year, I had no doubt we would win the Grand Final
 

anjado

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1991 - Penrith were the best team all season and didn't really have much competition outside of the Raiders i knew we would beat Manly and Norths because they weren't quite good enough to win the competition.

2003 - When we beat the Warriors in the Preliminary final the Warriors were the form team in the competition and had smashed the Bulldogs in the first week of the finals and beat the Roosters in round 25. One of the most annoying things about our premiership victory was that some people said that the Roosters had a more difficult game against the Bulldogs in the preliminary final which was complete rubbish. Penrith beating the Warriors was far more impressive considering how badly they hammered the Bulldogs in the first week of the finals they beat them something 48-22 and the score could have been far more than that.
 

Vic Mackey

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I'm still in shock that the Tigers didn't knock us off with a heartbreaking try in about the 79th minute of the 2010 prelim...I was convinced they were going to score on that last play after we had defended so well all night (and all season).

I was a lot more nervous about that dangerous Tigers side than any team that had Mythchell at 7. Having said that, we did remarkably well to keep within 2 of the Chooks at the break and I wasn't sure we were safe until Soward kicked that penalty goal. Absolutely magic.

Was definetaly one of the best finals game of all time. I think most people saw that as the real grand final. Even though there was hardly a line break (the only 2 I remember were gasniers that lead to nightingales try and the one at the very end that beau Ryan fcked up) it was a brilliant and gripping game with 2 high quality teams playing at their best. After the game I was obviously Dissapointed but not shattered as I knew we had given our all and just got pipped by a team who took the chance when it arrived. I rarely give Tim Sheens praise but his gameplan was perfect to beat the dragons, why Brian Smith then turned up a week later and tried to go around them I'll never know.
 

elyod138

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I felt it was our year when the Cowboys won 11 in a row while playing out of form.

They didn't quite click for most of 2015 but the determination was there and they just kept at it until the opposition cracked.

This is also why I'm confident that they'll be up there again and have a good shot at going back to back, they were no where near top form for most of last year.
 
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I was convinced the Tigers were going to win in 2005 when they smashed the Broncos 36-4 in the 2nd week of the finals...

That was a good Broncos team that won the competition the following year but they were just obliterated that day...

The thing with that game was the Broncos started really well. They had a lot of the running, Benji pulled off an amazing try saving tackle on the line to hold up Smith, and Prince opened the scoring with a full field intercept try. It really blew out in the end, but it was our defence that day that showed us to be contenders.

2005 was a funny season, mid way through the season Brisbane were seemingly locks to take home the title and it was a case of who would come second. Then the Dragons, Eels and Tigers all made late surges to liven up the back half of the season. I think the moment I felt like we were good to win it was when Benji scored the opener against the Dragons in the prelim. I had an eerie feeling before that one that we'd get pumped, but that try settled everything. Once Parra went out I was very confident, we had put 50 on the Cows 3 weeks before the grand final.
 

DiegoNT

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Only on 3 occasions have i ever thought 'wow this is the team that will win the premiership' with confidence before they'd even made the grandfinal. On every other occasions (including for my own team) it hasn't been until the second half of the gf that i could confidently call a winner.
One occasion was in 2002 when roosters doninated a good Brisbane side a few weeks out from the finals. You could just feel a toughness and resolve building into that team that'd see them compete for 3 years straight.
Another occasion was tigers beating the broncos in the 2nd week in 2005. That team was young and enthusiastic, great attackers, but in that game you could really see their defence lift, especially their scrambling defence, and you could see that this was a team of youngsters playing for each other.
The other occasions was parramatta in 2001. They were smashing records, 1-17 were in the best form of their lives, and they were blowing teams of the park. In the first week of the finals they were smashing the Warriors quite easily. In the second half there was a scuffle, and nathan cayless got angry and lost it. After that scuffle he lost control and kept trying to take on warriors forwards and brian smith sensing a possible suspension coming, pulled cayless of the fiels and benched him. The only thing was he didn't send on a replacement. Parra were so dominate that Brian smith deliberately only played with 12 players while cayless cooled off. He sent a message onto the field that it was a sin bin drill. This happened in an actual finals match, and I'm pretty sure parra extended their lead with cayless on the bench . after a season of smashing records and that display of domination i thought there was no way that team could be beaten
 

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Was definetaly one of the best finals game of all time. I think most people saw that as the real grand final. Even though there was hardly a line break (the only 2 I remember were gasniers that lead to nightingales try and the one at the very end that beau Ryan fcked up) it was a brilliant and gripping game with 2 high quality teams playing at their best. After the game I was obviously Dissapointed but not shattered as I knew we had given our all and just got pipped by a team who took the chance when it arrived. I rarely give Tim Sheens praise but his gameplan was perfect to beat the dragons, why Brian Smith then turned up a week later and tried to go around them I'll never know.

A mate who is a dragons fan watched the game with me and got very toasted. The next day he was sending texts rubbishing the game and saying it was a lousy quality final where the tigers were completely outmatched.

Then he watched the game again and realised how close it was. Smith was very fortunate to avoid being penalised for the knees in Tuquiri s back. It was the best final I think I've seen in the last 20 years, with the manly v roosters 4-0 semi also being right up there.
 
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BennyV

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Was definetaly one of the best finals game of all time. I think most people saw that as the real grand final. Even though there was hardly a line break (the only 2 I remember were gasniers that lead to nightingales try and the one at the very end that beau Ryan fcked up) it was a brilliant and gripping game with 2 high quality teams playing at their best. After the game I was obviously Dissapointed but not shattered as I knew we had given our all and just got pipped by a team who took the chance when it arrived. I rarely give Tim Sheens praise but his gameplan was perfect to beat the dragons, why Brian Smith then turned up a week later and tried to go around them I'll never know.

To be fair, Tigpies had the team to poke holes in the Dragons' defense. Benji had spiders on him all year. Loltzen found a ridiculous ability to hit gaps that he's never been able to emulate. Lawrence, Ayshford, Farah were all in purple patches.

As good as Carney was playing, Roosters never had the strike that Tigpies had that year.
 

Valheru

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To be fair, Tigpies had the team to poke holes in the Dragons' defense. Benji had spiders on him all year. Loltzen found a ridiculous ability to hit gaps that he's never been able to emulate. Lawrence, Ayshford, Farah were all in purple patches.

As good as Carney was playing, Roosters never had the strike that Tigpies had that year.

True that.

Carney got us there on his own in a four year period where we finished last, runners up, 11th and 12th. It was an aberration and the results of blooding all those young players would only be seen from 2013 onwards.

We only beat the tigers that year and forced them on your side of the draw because... well because we always beat them for some reason regardless of the strength of the 2 teams.
 

BennyV

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True that.

Carney got us there on his own in a four year period where we finished last, runners up, 11th and 12th. It was an aberration and the results of blooding all those young players would only be seen from 2013 onwards.

We only beat the tigers that year and forced them on your side of the draw because... well because we always beat them for some reason regardless of the strength of the 2 teams.

Which is why I was oh so glad that the Tigpies beat Raiders in the semi!
 

simon says

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The other game I remember thinking Wests were on something special in 2005 was the win against the Raiders. They played awful for most of the first half, then gritted out a most unlikely win. This was the sort of game they would normally lose (and continue to normally lose), but that team had somehow forgotten how to lose.

Thats the game where I actually thought we could win the comp.

We were terrible in the first half and should have been down by at least 20,but we hung in there and ran over them in the last ten.

Normally we would get smashed after playing so badly. I had never seen a tigers team play so badly and still WIN!
 

TheDalek079

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The Roosters got their with the BJ Leilua dropped ball try as well.

haven't watched the game since, but from what i recall it looked like soward nudged the ball out with his foot.



1975 - the moment Changa did that awful kick for touch after a penalty. No way they could win without him
 

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