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Twizzle

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He’s done nothing more than what any competent chairman or CEO would of done.

and thats what he has been hired for which is a huge step forward from where we were a few years back and you even admit he has been competent

would you rather Spags back ?
 

ash411

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The thing is, we won’t know what Max is actually getting paid.

He’d be on salary with FH, who are in contract with the PLC, as @emjaycee stated, those numbers don’t translate to Max’s pocket, that’s what FH are taking for the job, what Max is getting paid is honestly none of our business. It’s most likely much much less.

If you think FH are getting too much, then talk to your board and get them to re-negotiate.
 

emjaycee

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The thing is, we won’t know what Max is actually getting paid.

He’d be on salary with FH, who are in contract with the PLC, as @emjaycee stated, those numbers don’t translate to Max’s pocket, that’s what FH are taking for the job, what Max is getting paid is honestly none of our business. It’s most likely much much less.

If you think FH are getting too much, then talk to your board and get them to re-negotiate.

As an in-demand and experienced company administrator, Max is quite possibly on more than what the club is paying FH. Since mid-last year he has not been full-time on this role. There are 2 CEO's in place to manage the day-to-day as with any business.
 

ash411

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As an in-demand and experienced company administrator, Max is quite possibly on more than what the club is paying FH. Since mid-last year he has not been full-time on this role. There are 2 CEO's in place to manage the day-to-day as with any business.
Good point. He probably is, especially given the size of the companies he’s been looking after and such.
 

T-Boon

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If you think FH are getting too much, then talk to your board and get them to re-negotiate.

I am not going to do that, but I will say I would like to see him on a lot less money. I would be cool with probably $5000k per month. That said I have no idea what he actually does. He seems to be taking money off the football club. Was he not just supposed to be around for 6 months initially?
 

Suitman

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The thing is, we won’t know what Max is actually getting paid.

He’d be on salary with FH, who are in contract with the PLC, as @emjaycee stated, those numbers don’t translate to Max’s pocket, that’s what FH are taking for the job, what Max is getting paid is honestly none of our business. It’s most likely much much less.

If you think FH are getting too much, then talk to your board and get them to re-negotiate.

What I'd like to know Ash, because I'm curious, is what some others want to know.
When Max/ FH were appointed, our board had been sacked (or about to be) and our former CEO was up on court charges. Since then, Max has done his Administrators job controlling finances, and a board has been put in place and a new CEO appointed. I myself, now wonder why Max and FH are still there. I'd also like to know what time frame is in place for them to remain. I understand he is still looking at constitutional reform, but how long should this take, and couldn't our current board enact such changes?

This is not a question to you personally, but more a question in general. Happy for anyone to answer.
 

hineyrulz

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and thats what he has been hired for which is a huge step forward from where we were a few years back and you even admit he has been competent

would you rather Spags back ?
Yeah that’s exactly what I want.

He doesn’t have to do much special to be better than the clowns who have been in charge previously.
 

El Diablo

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The thing is, we won’t know what Max is actually getting paid.

He’d be on salary with FH, who are in contract with the PLC, as @emjaycee stated, those numbers don’t translate to Max’s pocket, that’s what FH are taking for the job, what Max is getting paid is honestly none of our business. It’s most likely much much less.

If you think FH are getting too much, then talk to your board and get them to re-negotiate.
Max wants to stay on regardless just so a new board are a bunch of tight arses too

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...9/news-story/701bfe6d9be962c92f8b557508655b53
In an exclusive interview with The Saturday Daily Telegraph, Donnelly indicated he would be staying on the Eels board until the opening of the new Parramatta Stadium in April 2019, which will provide huge opportunities for the club to grow its membership base.

“I will be staying on for 12 months as chairman, to check the board is working properly and find my successor, and another 12 months as a director.”

When Donnelly first came on board in July last year after the unprecedented government-sanctioned sacking of the entire Eels board, he had indicated that he would depart by the start of the 2017 season.
 

ash411

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What I'd like to know Ash, because I'm curious, is what some others want to know.
When Max/ FH were appointed, our board had been sacked (or about to be) and our former CEO was up on court charges. Since then, Max has done his Administrators job controlling finances, and a board has been put in place and a new CEO appointed. I myself, now wonder why Max and FH are still there. I'd also like to know what time frame is in place for them to remain. I understand he is still looking at constitutional reform, but how long should this take, and couldn't our current board enact such changes?

This is not a question to you personally, but more a question in general. Happy for anyone to answer.
I don’t know myself, as I’m not privy to that stuff, me being a regular dude and all, however I can speculate..

I assume Max and FH are still engaged by the PLC because they have not completed the mandate set by the minister of whatever, the only reason I can think of as to why they haven’t been able to complete the changes is because it must be very difficult to do. My understanding of constitutional changes are minefields of technicalities and difficult to pull off when you don’t face opposition, and given that Max faces heavy opposition from the old boys, it’s must make it that much harder.

But I could be wrong, FH could be padding the bill, I don’t really know.
 

Avenger

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Hey @Avenger, look at MJC’s posts, that’s how you answer a question, and that’s what a respected poster looks like.

Dude knows his s**t. Learn from him, would you?
I’ve conversed with Gronk forever on these forums and me calling him a softcock is no big deal and done with tongue in cheek. I like him and respect him. He was one of the first men to offer support when my father was sick and I don’t forget stuff like that. So my question is who the f**k do you think you are questioning what I say to him? Let him stand up for himself if he finds offence. Same as MJC. I’ve met the man in person. We watched a game together. If he is offended what I said to him on a forum, let him call me out.


I couldn’t give a f**k what you think you about me. I always considered you a dumb merkin but was pleasantly surprised that you did one good post in the sea of shit that you usually post. And I don’t need your respect you f**king moron, for a while I thought you were geniused and held off on unleashing on you.
 

T-Boon

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I assume Max and FH are still engaged by the PLC because they have not completed the mandate set by the minister of whatever, the only reason I can think of as to why they haven’t been able to complete the changes is because it must be very difficult to do. My understanding of constitutional changes are minefields of technicalities and difficult to pull off when you don’t face opposition, and given that Max faces heavy opposition from the old boys, it’s must make it that much harder.

But I could be wrong, FH could be padding the bill, I don’t really know.

So long as somewhere along the way they are accountable for what they are doing. Like do they provide an itemised invoice for what they do? Nobody seems to know what they are even supposed to be doing just collecting money.
 

Avenger

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TBH Av, there have been others that have been far more adamant on this point before Ash came along, and Ash actually made a very pertinent post in which you happened to press the "like" button.
Within 3 replies, you were calling him a f**kwit. I'm not sure that if you want to have a reasonable discussion with someone, and argue your points, that using adjectives such as this is necessarily the right way to go about it. Believe me, I should know. I have form. I think I called Bart a f**kwit once.
Ok...……….. maybe more than once.

Anyway, I've been around this place long enough to know that when the Eels have a lean spell like this, all hell is going to break loose on this forum. It goes round and around in circles, abuse flies left, right and centre, and guess what? Nothing that any of us says or does changes what happens at the club or on the field. That just happens to be in the hands of those at the club who can control such things.
You seem a lovely person when talking about watches and golf sticks. When talking about RL and Bitcoin, the Balkan comes out in you.
I like both personalities tbh.
It keeps this forum entertaining and regularly amusing.
Because he is a f**kwit. I acknowledged a good post that he put together and suddenly he gives me some type of half arsed character assessment and is the moral crusader on what I’ve said to Gronk.
 

emjaycee

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What I'd like to know Ash, because I'm curious, is what some others want to know.
When Max/ FH were appointed, our board had been sacked (or about to be) and our former CEO was up on court charges. Since then, Max has done his Administrators job controlling finances, and a board has been put in place and a new CEO appointed. I myself, now wonder why Max and FH are still there. I'd also like to know what time frame is in place for them to remain. I understand he is still looking at constitutional reform, but how long should this take, and couldn't our current board enact such changes?

This is not a question to you personally, but more a question in general. Happy for anyone to answer.
Grrr, @Suitman - you could have just called me :p

The key issue is that the PNRL is a 100% private company, owned by the PLC and there are no elections for PNRL Board members, only for the PLC Board. This is what every man and his dog has been trying to get elected to for years - the PLC Board so they can control the PNRL and the "footy team". The 7 elected PLC Board members automatically became the PNRL Board members.

These elections were therefore, for all intensive (sic) purposes, nothing more than a popularity contest which caused problems because instead of electing people to the PLC who were going to control not only the footy side of things but also the multi-million $ casino type business, we ended up with little or no liquor and gaming experience running the PLC.

The Board was actually sacked because of indiscretions in how they ran the PLC, in support of the PNRL (they were sacked by the Minister for Liquor and Gaming who has no authority over the PNRL).

Once appointed Max and the FH team did a number of things regarding the PNRL constitution which means there is now an independent board in place for the PNRL (independent of the PLC Board), with only 2 cross-over members instead of the previous 7. This link is to a Ferrier's document about what they achieved initially.

What Max attempted and failed to do in Sept 2017 is implement changes to the PLC Constitution that would effectively fix concerns OLGA/ILGA have over the PLC Board and its operations - these changes need the support of 75% of the PLC members present at the meeting in order to pass.

The PNRL Board has no control over the PLC (remember the PLC is the parent, PNRL is the child) hence the PNRL Board cannot make changes to the PLC Constitution.

The next members discussion about the changes is on a months time and after that there will no doubt be another vote on them.
 

ash411

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I’ve conversed with Gronk forever on these forums and me calling him a softcock is no big deal and done with tongue in cheek. I like him and respect him. He was one of the first men to offer support when my father was sick and I don’t forget stuff like that. So my question is who the f**k do you think you are questioning what I say to him? Let him stand up for himself if he finds offence. Same as MJC. I’ve met the man in person. We watched a game together. If he is offended what I said to him on a forum, let him call me out.


I couldn’t give a f**k what you think you about me. I always considered you a dumb merkin but was pleasantly surprised that you did one good post in the sea of shit that you usually post. And I don’t need your respect you f**king moron, for a while I thought you were geniused and held off on unleashing on you.
For the record, I wasn’t saying MJC was offended, I was using his post (and by extension, he himself) as an example of what a good, respected poster is like. I’m very well aware that he (and gronk for that matter) can stand up for themselves.

As for the rest, I’m not going to dignify it if you have to result to childish insults and petty name calling...
 

Gronk

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I’ve conversed with Gronk forever on these forums and me calling him a softcock is no big deal and done with tongue in cheek. I like him and respect him. He was one of the first men to offer support when my father was sick and I don’t forget stuff like that. So my question is who the f**k do you think you are questioning what I say to him? Let him stand up for himself if he finds offence. Same as MJC. I’ve met the man in person. We watched a game together. If he is offended what I said to him on a forum, let him call me out.


I couldn’t give a f**k what you think you about me. I always considered you a dumb merkin but was pleasantly surprised that you did one good post in the sea of shit that you usually post. And I don’t need your respect you f**king moron, for a while I thought you were geniused and held off on unleashing on you.
Yeah sticks and stones brother. Ive been around mad merkin serbs for 30 years. Ive seen worse.
 

Avenger

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For the record, I wasn’t saying MJC was offended, I was using his post (and by extension, he himself) as an example of what a good, respected poster is like. I’m very well aware that he (and gronk for that matter) can stand up for themselves.

As for the rest, I’m not going to dignify it if you have to result to childish insults and petty name calling...
That’s great, now f**k off.
 

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