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Which players to bid farewell to?

orochimaru

Juniors
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on topic withthe Mullen letgo

I don't watch the footy as much as you guys, but I remember when he used to play 5/8, he looked the goods, ran hard, passes always hit the chest of players.

But now when I watch, it seems confusing, sometimes he's playing the halfback role, others the 5/8.

but either way he's solid, and he hasn't had much to work with, and his hype up "to be the next johns" did not help his career in any form.
 

Whats Doing

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Vai Vai will have more trouble getting into the Raiders 1st grade side than the knights with their front row rotation.

Anyway he does not have a big motor and will struggle even further in 2016 with the reduced interchange.

A good move by the Knights if true.
 
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Frederick

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After reading his comments in this article, Aku can go as far as I'm concerned. Typifies exactly what Kent said about senior players being too comfortable and not having the drive to win

Expensive Knight Uate can't keep anything in reserve By ROBERT DILLON Aug. 13, 2015, 10:43 p.m.

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Akuila Uate

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IF Knights coach Danny Buderus sounded frustrated with Akuila Uate during his Wednesday press conference, one can only imagine his reaction had he heard the struggling winger's interview just a few minutes earlier.

Asked by the Newcastle Herald's Brett Keeble if the emergence of tyros like Jake Mamo, the Mata'utia brothers and Nathan Ross was "keeping you on your toes", Uate replied: "Nah, nah, not really mate. As I told the coaches, you know, they're coming through. Sometimes they're training real well, and I'm really happy whatever they do, the coaches . . . I'm happy to go back to NSW Cup and come back. That's how it is in footy."

Pardon? "Happy to go back to NSW Cup"?

In isolation, this could perhaps be dismissed as a clumsy attempt from Uate to dead bat a curly question.

But 12 months ago, when he was sent back for a one-game stint in purgatory, the former Test flanker apparently had no qualms about the experience: "I've got to stay positive, coming back to play NSW Cup . . . I had fun today and the boys did, too, and it was good to get a win."

Having fun in the "reggies" is all well and good if Uate is happy to settle for reserve-grade money, but as perhaps the highest-paid winger in the NRL, I'd imagine Newcastle's powers-that-be have higher expectations.

Uate's comments would appear to contrast starkly with the smarten-up edict issued by Knights chief executive Matt Gidley two months ago, when he warned the club's under-performing stars that if they were not "hungry to work hard, succeed and win premierships . . . then this is not the club for you".

Gidley added: "We want players here who are desperate to win comps, desperate to represent our town, and we want them to work as hard as they possibly can to achieve those things, and we don't shy away from that."

Somehow a winger earning at least $500,000 a season and "happy" to play the odd game in NSW Cup does not seem to fit Gidley's criteria.


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Moreover, the dilemma for Knights officials is magnified if you consider another Uate comment on Wednesday: "I've got another two years [at Newcastle]. So we'll see how we go after two years."

In other words, the 27-year-old is not even halfway through the lucrative four-year contract extension he signed with Newcastle in 2013.

At the time of signing, he was one of the most lethal finishers in the NRL and also a bulldozer on kick-returns, attributes that outweighed his unease under the high ball and tendency to go AWOL in defence.

Since then, however, it would appear the law of diminishing returns is taking effect.

Consider Uate's try hauls over the past five seasons: 20 from 23 games in 2011, 18 from 22 in 2012, 15 from 24 in 2013, 12 from 15 in 2014 and 11 from 18 this year. So at a time when the Knights are desperate to free up cash under their salary cap, one of their top earners not only appears a waning force in attack, he has also been a significant factor in a deteriorating defence that has leaked more points (538) than any other team in the NRL.

Uate, of course, is not Robinson Crusoe. Only a handful of Newcastle players are entitled to be satisfied with their individual efforts during this season of woe.

And there might have been mitigating circumstances during his lacklustre showing against the Roosters, which prompted Buderus to observe bluntly: "He'll need to play a lot better than what he did on the weekend."

It was the Fijian's first appearance after a two-game lay-off with a knee injury, and perhaps he deserves some credit for attempting to play through the pain barrier.

But if he was underdone, he was doing himself and his team a disservice, especially as his late inclusion meant a fully fit Mamo dropped back to NSW Cup.

Buderus clearly won't let him make the same mistake two weeks running: "If he's not 100 per cent, I'm going to take it out of his hands and not let him play."

Knights fans can only hope such treatment would sting Uate's pride more than he is prepared to publicly admit.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3...ht-uate-cant-keep-anything-in-reserve/?cs=306
 

Noname36

First Grade
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Vai Vai can't keep up with the pace of the game now so getting rid of him before the interchanges drop is a good thing.

I've seen him be dynamic with his offloading but there's still a while to go before his motor doesn't make him a liability.
 

Noname36

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After reading his comments in this article, Aku can go as far as I'm concerned. Typifies exactly what Kent said about senior players being too comfortable and not having the drive to win



http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3...ht-uate-cant-keep-anything-in-reserve/?cs=306

Aku is lazy and I'd be fine to see him go but I wouldn't put too much stock in his interview comments. Every time I've seen him interviewed he answers just about everything out of context. I still don't think his English is all that good.
 
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I hope the next coach puts Aku in NSW Cup and never recalls him. He does not have the mental fortitude to cop that and as a result he will seek a release. That is the way to do it IMO. I am so sick of players demanding top dollar and never earning close to it. just remember he signed that deal the year he lost his origin spot.
 

Spot On

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Why have so many Newcastle supporters taken so long to see some of the glaring issues with our playing roster and their attitude. Why so much fan loyalty to a bloke who has not improved the weak points in his game over years but been paid millions to do so. I don't get it. I've copped plenty of flack for wanting Uate dumped by people wanting to defend him. But what is there to defend him on?? Runs the ball hard???

Can't believe it's taken an interim coach to publicly call him out. We'll done Bedsy.

These blokes are on too much money under the cap as it is now, what the f**king will their attitudes be like if it gets to 11 million under the new TV deal??? Blokes who can't defend, catch the high ball and have horrible hands getting 700K plus??? FFS!
 
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Knight Vision

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Why have so many Newcastle supporters taken so long to see some of the glaring issues with our playing roster and their attitude. Why so much fan loyalty to a bloke who has not improved the weak points in his game over years but been paid millions to do so. I don't get it. I've copped plenty of flack for wanting Uate dumped by people wanting to defend him. But what is there to defend him on?? Runs the ball hard???

Can't believe it's taken an interim coach to publicly call him out. We'll done Bedsy.

These blokes are on too much money under the cap as it is now, what the f**king will their attitudes be like if it gets to 11 million under the new TV deal??? Blokes who can't defend, catch the high ball and have horrible hands getting 700K plus??? FFS!

I must admit his comments in that interview are almost indefensible. That's not the response I'd want from anyone in the team. Tell him to look elsewhere !
 

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