Who’s a keeper, who’s not.

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  1. Tigerm

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    Obviously we have to revamp the side and bring in some new players.
    If nothing changes, then nothing changes.
    It was said, that some of the current players are just happy to be in first grade, nothing more.
    Bearing in mind they have to be replaced?

    For me:
    Most of the forwards are too young and are getting bashed, as their bodies get older and stronger that should change but may take a while.

    Most of the points against us seem to be out wide. And we have no speed in the backs.

    And of course we don’t have a reliable Goal Kicker, though Mbye seems to have improved lately.

    Is the coach the right guy to lead us into the future.

    Our squad
    Backs
    Adam Doueihi
    Asu Kepaoa
    Benji Marshall
    Billy Walters
    David Nofoaluma
    Dylan Smith
    Jock Madden
    Joseph Leilua
    Josh Reynolds
    Luke Brooks
    Moses Mbye
    Reece Hoffman
    Robert Jennings
    Tommy Talau
    Zac Cini

    Forwards
    Alex Seyfarth
    Alex Twal
    Chris Lawrence - retiring
    Chris McQueen
    Elijah Taylor
    Jacob Liddle
    Jake Simpkin
    Josh Aloiai
    Kane Bradley
    Luciano Leilua
    Luke Garner
    Matthew Eisenhuth
    Michael Chee-Kam
    Oliver Clark
    Russell Packer
    Sam McIntyre
    Shawn Blore
    Thomas Mikaele
    Zane Musgrove
     
  2. Tigerm

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    For me:

    Benji should retire and become the halves coach.
    Jenning’s should be tapped on the shoulder.
    Joeseph Leilua should be tapped.
    Luke Brooks should be tapped, but we don’t a replacement yet
    Alex Seyfarth should be tapped
    Chris McQueen should be tapped, though is this his last season for us?
    Luke Garner - not improving, so reserve grade only
    Thomas Mikaele - not improving, so reserve grade only
    Some of the others, I don’t know much about

    Michael Maguire has a year to go, so we will know more mid season next year.

    We need a sprint coach urgently.
     
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  3. benched tiger

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    It seems like we have been in a rebuilding stage since 2012, a part of our problem is a lack of depth and talent, which is hindered by our limited cap space, due to inflated existing contracts from players that are largely not performing or are past their best.
    The WT need to head in a new direction and that means forming a new spine, which can lead a team around the park which is obviously beyond Brooks capabilities.
    I would cut ....Backs....Brooks,Benji,Reynolds,Jennings and Mybe
    ....Fwds......McQueen,Packer,ET,Eiso,Clarke
    .... Ret........Rowdy
     
  4. stryker

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    Everyone over 500k should be on the block as a minimum. None of them are earning their dough.
     
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  5. Rhyno

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    Twal and aloiai May be worth keeping but both will need to take a pay cut
     
  6. Shredder

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    Off contract this year we have Clark, Eiso, Jennings, Marshall, McIntyre, McQueen, Seyfath, Smith and Taylor.

    Keeping in mind we will have to find replacements and the off contract list this year isnt great, I would keep Clark, McIntyre, Seyfath and Smith. That gives us five players to pick up.

    I agree that the forwards are largely young and doing an OK job. We need a forwards leader, a half, a fullback and some speed out wide. I would mainly be looking for backs.
     
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  7. WA Tiger

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    Forwards that are big and scary can stay. Scary also means able to smash in defence have a significant impact with their runs and also to help move the team forward consistently..Otherwise see you later ..
    The forwards need to be going forward for the backs to do their thing..Otherwise investing big money in the backs is a waste of $$$ and then it’s same old same old
     
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  8. The Charlatan

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    I would keep Clark and Eisenhuth on budget contracts. Both are depth players at any other club. Seyfarth is the same player as Clark with less minutes in him, so sayonara. McIntyre is a hard player. Would be worth keeping around.

    Jennings, Marshall, McQueen, Seyfarth, ET and Smith can all go along with Rowdy.
     
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  9. The Rosco

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    Rhyno, if you want to come on to our forum ( again ) and act all nice and helpful . . . maybe you should start with something like this . . . ." hey fella's, sorry for being such an arsehole. I know my team is shit too, so I don't know why I put shit on your team. Anyway, I'm sick of being an annoying dik, and am trying to make myself a better person.
    So please accept my apologies . . . let's wipe the slate clean . . . and from now I'll post like a normal human". Regards, rhyno.
     
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  10. Mr Angry

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    Keep

    Adam Doueihi
    Billy Walters
    David Nofoaluma

    Maybe some under 21's worth persisting.
     
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  11. WA Tiger

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    observing ones Niceties..sort of hello how are you or whatever before you sit down to dinner at the next door neighbours table after leaving a shit on their back step 2 weeks earlier..
    Much better than in the past but...yea nailed Rosco
     
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  12. Perth Tiger

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    Our squad
    Backs
    Adam Doueihi - Keep, probably move to 5/8
    Asu Kepaoa - Keep, young showed a bit
    Benji Marshall - Retire
    Billy Walters - Keep, depth
    David Nofoaluma - Keep
    Dylan Smith - leave, waste of a top squad spot
    Jock Madden - haven't really seen him
    Joseph Leilua - Keep but he has had an average year
    Josh Reynolds - leave
    Luke Brooks - Keep, we aren't getting anyone better but look to upgrade if possible
    Moses Mbye - I'd keep if it wasn't for his contract, would of load if could get rid of at least 2/3 of his contract
    Reece Hoffman - Keep, looks the goods
    Robert Jennings - leave and never return
    Tommy Talau - keep
    Zac Cini - haven't seen him

    Forwards
    Alex Seyfarth - Keep either him or Clark for depth
    Alex Twal - Keep
    Chris Lawrence - retiring
    Chris McQueen - Piss off
    Elijah Taylor - Piss off
    Jacob Liddle - Keep and buy a few palets of duct tape
    Jake Simpkin - Keep
    Josh Aloiai - Keep
    Kane Bradley - haven't seen him
    Luciano Leilua - Keep
    Luke Garner - Keep for depth
    Matthew Eisenhuth - Keep for depth
    Michael Chee-Kam - leave
    Oliver Clark - Keep either him or Seyfarth for depth
    Russell Packer - leave
    Sam McIntyre - Keep
    Shawn Blore - Keep
    Thomas Mikaele - Keep
    Zane Musgrove - Keep
     
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  13. Fordy20

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    Pretty much my thoughts too, although I'd leaning towards keeping Clarke over Seyfarth.

    Mbye isn't worth what he's being paid either. He's probably worth $300k as a utility or hooker depth when we lose Harry Grant, but I'd happily swap him for DWZ or pay half his contract to play elsewhere if we had someone like Billy Brittain, Tom Starling or Karl Lawton as coverage for Liddle.
     
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    We just need to get rid of the following
    Yep your pretty much bang on here. Only differences I'd say:
    Mbye - Realistically we won't be able to move him on next year, plus if we did, who would be the captain? I don't see Mbye as a long term player here but I'd keep him until we can sign some really quality experienced players and they can take over
    Brooks - yeah keep him for now but f**k me he is on thin ice. I'd sign someone like Burton on decent money to basically battle it out with Brooks for the 7 jersey, then if he pushes Brooks out then he can battle AD for the 6 Jersey. If Brooks can't handle it then at least we gave him a proper dismissal
    Seyfarth/Clark - keep both for depth
     
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    Dogs have just replaced Floran, so hes looking for a new home. They offered him $300k I think and he said he would shop around. Floran at $400k would suit us. Hes experienced, could captain and has a great kicking game. I just really worry about his recent injury run.
     
  16. Tigerm

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    Plus, I understand he knocked the dogs back because they didn’t offer a long offer, not sure what he is after, but imo, he is a high risk at anymore than 1 year contracts.
    The dogs apparently offered Green one year.
     
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  17. Perth Tiger

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    Dogs offered him one year but he was after 3.

    we might be able to tempt him with 2 years, probably worth the risk at least to replace Benji, after all Madge did bring him back into the Kiwis so he should have a bit of a relationship there
     
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  18. Tigerm

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    I can’t see him getting anymore than 2 years but still think one year with an option in our favour would maybe worth consideration
     
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  19. Tigerm

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    Are you going to join us this morning? To talk about the mighty Eels?

    Didn't think so.
     
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    I could see the Eels getting smashed. Souths have the best backline and spine in the comp.
     

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