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Who is the best coach in the NRL for 2018?

Who is the best coach in the NRL in 2018?


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Life's Good

Coach
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I voted for Bellamy. Honourable mention to Flanno. I would add Seibold but he channeled a bit of McGregor in not using the full interchange available against Melbourne. Imitating a poor tactic brings him down a level or 2.
 

Valheru

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I don’t get the love for Robinson from all parts. Like journos make him out to be some super coach.

He was handed a 8 million dollar team when the cap was 5.5 million and won a Comp.

He now has a 11 million dollar team and let’s see what he does.

He is handed royalty on a platter.

He is a good coach but I have my reservations if he was moved on from uncle Nicks endless friends who live to pour money into roosters.

Cleary for mine if not Seibold.

We finished 13th and 12th in 2011 and 2012. In our GF year of 2010 he was our defensive assistant coach and it is no fluke that when he went to the super league the following year we went to shit.

His unfortunate prelim record is the reason some don't rate him but hopefully that is rectified this weekend. We can debate all day whether we should have won those games but if you look at the other side of it he is 100% in grand finals.

What can't be refuted though is his ability to manage a season and get a team in to the top 4 which he has done 5/6 years thus far.
 

wibble

Bench
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This is a great question, and probably harder to answer even, than the best player.

I think there are very legitimate reasons to include Bennett in an all time list, but probably not in a current form list.

I think Siebold has worked miracles this year, and should be the coach of the year. But I'd like to give him a few more years before saying he is the current best, which usually means to me "best over a sustained period".

Ditto Cleary, who has a lot of potential and seems good at rebuilds, but let's see if he can find long term success.

So that really leaves 3 intriguing candidates, who all have some question marks.

With Bellamy, his results over a decade are easily the best. The players that go to his teams almost always play at their peak with him. And the list of spine players coming from his systems, Slater, Smith, Cronk, Maloney, Widdop, Munster, Inglis, is remarkable.

If you judge it on results or cranking out champion players, he is the best.

His question marks are obviously his methods. He relied on a blatantly cheating team for much of his success, and horrible abuses of the game rules in on field tactics. You could argue the "best" is also best for the game, and Bellamy may not be.

The real interesting test for Bellamy will be without Slater or Smith, but it is true he passed similar tests in the past, such as losing Slater in 2016 and unearthing Munster, with flying colours.

Flanagan hasn't had the same dizzying results, but has taken a team from a disaster to a consistent performer. Those asking for a coach to prove themselves at a club like Parramatta could just as easily asked 5 years ago, for a coach to prove themselves at the Sharks. And he did.

Players also seem to play at their peak under Flannagan, and the success is coming through in all grades. Looking at players through his junior systems this last few years, like Scott, Ado-Carr, Isaako, Ramien, Bird, Holmes and Brailey, and it seems the Sharks should be able to find consistent future success if they can continue to produce that sort of talent.

Like Bellamy, Flanagan has some question marks over his methods. The ASADA scandal will forever tarnish his record, even though it was very early in his career and clearly didn't result in wins.

The test for Flanagan is to keep up the results of the last few years, without raising suspicions about his methods. If he can do that, he may reach or surpass Bellamy as the best producer of league talent.

Robinson has had remarkable results in first grade as well. It looks like he has a team that anyone could win with, and easy access to TPAs to assemble such teams.

But people forget that the Roosters have not been a super club throughout the whole Politis/NRL era.

They have basically been at the top in just two periods, that might reasonably be called the Freddy era and the Robinson era. That the Roosters were so good with Fittler on the field says much about him as a player, and IMHO he is criminally under rated, despite being highly rated by most pundits.

But after Fittler, the Roosters had all the same "advantages" Robinson has now, but none of the success. Robinson has created a team that is extremely good, several times. He has shown he can pick some elite players and build an elite team around them, and can do that again and again, even when those elites change.

He is the ultimate "fantasy" coach. He can find the two or three players he thinks will best work, recruit them, and get everyone else working with them. If only my "Super Coach" efforts were half as good.

The test for Robinson would be to see if he could do that with less advantages, but it is possibly a test he'll never be asked to do.

Tough question to really answer. For what it's worth, I voted for Robinson. His methods have no question marks, and building up a club is an important secondary skill, but succeeding in the top grade is the main goal, and he has done that.

But I think all three mentioned have a good claim, and Bennett has to be there for all time best, and Siebold for this year's best.
 

dogslife

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He's been coaching for 6 years, and his team has made the prelim finals 5 of those 6 years.
Wayne Bennett and the Broncos have the same cap situation is not better, they dont boast that record.
As in no salary cap?
 

carcharias

Immortal
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Some blokes Bellamy was lucky enough to coach would’ve made anywhere
Inglis is a great example
He was a star
 

Lambretta

First Grade
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I am going to vote for Wayne Bennett but I refuse to do so until someone tells me which is the real one
 
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Well now we know the answer to the thread's original question. The best coach in the NRL is Trent Robinson. He has defeated Sean "Flanno" Flanagan, Anthony "Seabird" Seibold, and Craig "Bellyache" Bellamy. Trento has done it all. He has no peers. He is a certified legend in his own lifetime.
 

Fire

First Grade
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Well now we know the answer to the thread's original question. The best coach in the NRL is Trent Robinson. He has defeated Sean "Flanno" Flanagan, Anthony "Seabird" Seibold, and Craig "Bellyache" Bellamy. Trento has done it all. He has no peers. He is a certified legend in his own lifetime.
Mary?
 

Willie Ray

Bench
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Well now we know the answer to the thread's original question. The best coach in the NRL is Trent Robinson. He has defeated Sean "Flanno" Flanagan, Anthony "Seabird" Seibold, and Craig "Bellyache" Bellamy. Trento has done it all. He has no peers. He is a certified legend in his own lifetime.
Yeah,well Robinson maybe the best coach in the NRL Albert but that Sean Flanagan guy has no right to be coaching a Rugby League team.
 

Rhino_NQ

Immortal
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Arthur managed to coach the eels for another full season without snapping and going on a shooting spree or going into cardiac arrest in the coaches box. That’s got get him some credit
 
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Everyone goes on about how some coaches have it easy because of the talent in their teams. It is well shown that you can't win without talent.
 
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Well now we know the answer to the thread's original question. The best coach in the NRL is Trent Robinson. He has defeated Sean "Flanno" Flanagan, Anthony "Seabird" Seibold, and Craig "Bellyache" Bellamy. Trento has done it all. He has no peers. He is a certified legend in his own lifetime.
The poll says otherwise by a fair bit on “Trento”.
 

mozza91

Coach
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Voted for Mary but if Cameron Ciraldo coaches like he played he’ll be the best coach in the game soon enough.
 

BranVan3000

Coach
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Trent Robinson pulled a masterclass of coaching in the Grand Final. Got all the silverware this year

Yeah he did it wearing the salary sombrero but still a great achievement
 

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