Why didn't the AFL experience a super league war?

[Iamback]

AFL fans who want to persist indefinitely with the Giants take solace from looking at Swans crowds over the first decade and a half after the move to Sydney. On that reading, it`s early days.

The pragmatic course would be to give the Giants` licence to Tas. And for that matter, the Suns` licence to Darwin or Perth 3. But if large population centres in Australia demonstrate conspicuous resistance to their advances, to the extent they`re forced to give up and retreat, it could fatally undermine their "National Game" narrative and business model.

Which means they are condemned to persevere. Ironically, given all the talk about NSW pokie dens, the AFL in Western Sydney could be like a nappy-wearing gambling addict, feeding money into an avaricious machine, frantically hoping the jackpot is just around the corner.

I am happy for them to keep on spending millions on both of those sides but as someone that lives in Penrith. I have yet to see a GWS jersey, The population boom we are expected to have. Will be all from the Sub continent and Pacific so will continue to be wasted money

 

[Cheese sandwich]

AFL fans who want to persist indefinitely with the Giants take solace from looking at Swans crowds over the first decade and a half after the move to Sydney. On that reading, it`s early days.

The pragmatic course would be to give the Giants` licence to Tas. And for that matter, the Suns` licence to Darwin or Perth 3. But if large population centres in Australia demonstrate conspicuous resistance to their advances, to the extent they`re forced to give up and retreat, it could fatally undermine their "National Game" narrative and business model.

Which means they are condemned to persevere. Ironically, given all the talk about NSW pokie dens, the AFL in Western Sydney could be like a nappy-wearing gambling addict, feeding money into an avaricious machine, frantically hoping the jackpot is just around the corner.

You seem quite knowledgeable about the AFL for an Englishman. Does it have a bit of a following over there?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Shouldn`t neglect the value in the provenance of the NRL premiership. Even the very name of the sport "Rugby League" was first coined with the formation of the NSWRL. In England we were still playing "Rugby" in the Northern Union until 1922.

I continue to think the main difference between RL in Sydney and Aussie Rules in Melbourne is the malignant role of Rugby bloody Union.

BTW, I always like to point out to Aussies that my club Swinton Lions was formed in 1866. Which gives us a 40+ year advantage over the likes of Roosters, Rabbitohs, Valleys Diehards, etc.


Dolphins` sponsorship portfolio is mightily impressive. They could be a powerful and prestigious asset for the NRL. But how many people in SEQ will go to their games? RL supporters in all parts of Oz don`t seem to have the commitment of their AFL counterparts.

The size of Lions crowds vis-a-vis Broncos is every bit as ignominious for RL as Swans crowds in Sydney.

I worry about the Dolphins' ability to pull a crowd at Lang Park given the distance from their base. There's 33 kilometres between Dolphin Oval and Lang Park. The commute is about 53 minutes by car. Dolphin Oval only has 10,000 seats.

I wish our game didn't have "rugby" in its name. It holds us back as people confuse it with rugby union. Pity there isn't a two syllable synonym of "gladiator".

Maybe we should abbreviate "gladiator" into a two syllable word to create a unique name for our sport?

I think "soccer" is an abbreviation of "association football".

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Because you are bitter about a event from 70 years ago that allowed NSW clubs to create a new revenue stream through Leagues Clubs, that the QLD government who were voted in by the Qld public denied BRL clubs

You cannot change the past

The Queensland government was doing the same thing as the other five states and the majority of the world.

Do I need to point out that 20% of all pokies on this planet are in Australia and half of those are in Greater Sydney?

The NSWRL was extremely fortunate that they were in the one place on this planet that allowed this vile form of exploitation to gain state approval.

Sydney has just 0.067% of the world's population, yet it has 10% of all pokies on the planet. It's f**ken insane.

 

[siv]

The Queensland government was doing the same thing as the other five states and the majority of the world.

Do I need to point out that 20% of all pokies on this planet are in Australia and half of those are in Greater Sydney?

The NSWRL was extremely fortunate that they were in the one place on this planet that allowed this vile form of exploitation to gain state approval.

Sydney has just 0.067% of the world's population, yet it has 10% of all pokies on the planet. It's f**ken insane.

You must be so glad soon after Qld brought casinos into the country

Saved you a trip to Seagulls

 

[Pneuma]

You seem quite knowledgeable about the AFL for an Englishman. Does it have a bit of a following over there?

I get the gist. All very interesting

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You must be so glad soon after Qld brought casinos into the country

Saved you a trip to Seagulls

There's 300 pokies within a 5 minute walk from my house, yet I've never played a game on them in my entire life.

Look at these damning facts.

‘Gambling capital of Australia’: Six charts that show the scale of poker machine use in NSW

New graphs show why NSW has a reputation as Australia’s “gambling capital”, with losses on the pokies totalling $3.8 billion.

amp.smh.com.au

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

The Queensland government was doing the same thing as the other five states and the majority of the world.

Do I need to point out that 20% of all pokies on this planet are in Australia and half of those are in Greater Sydney?

The NSWRL was extremely fortunate that they were in the one place on this planet that allowed this vile form of exploitation to gain state approval.

Sydney has just 0.067% of the world's population, yet it has 10% of all pokies on the planet. It's f**ken insane.

This is where you really lose the plot .
doesn’t matter how vile or whatever the pokies are ..it was f**kING legal .
what don’t you get .

the Moral police ( you ) can whine all you like .
put a nappy over your face to muffle your howls of immorality .
it doesn’t change history or the legality of pokies .
& that’s what you are basing your argument on .
because you are offended .
as bad as they are …people like to play the pokies .
if they got rid of them then compulsive gamblers will just move onto another form of punting ..racing trots dogs .football .
instant scratch it tickets ..lotto powerball.

you being morally outraged about history is not going to be top of the agenda at the next ARLC meeting.

 

[siv]

This is where you really lose the plot .
doesn’t matter how vile or whatever the pokies are ..it was f**kING legal .
what don’t you get .

the Moral police ( you ) can whine all you like .
put a nappy over your face to muffle your howls of immorality .
it doesn’t change history or the legality of pokies .
& that’s what you are basing your argument on .
because you are offended .
as bad as they are …people like to play the pokies .
if they got rid of them then compulsive gamblers will just move onto another form of punting ..racing trots dogs .football .
instant scratch it tickets ..lotto powerball.

you being morally outraged about history is not going to be top of the agenda at the next ARLC meeting.

And at the same ask the TV companies to reduce the advertising revenue grants to the NRL , and NRL not to accept betting agencies revenue

And most importantly reduce the Cowboys LC grants to the FC

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

You seem quite knowledgeable about the AFL for an Englishman. Does it have a bit of a following over there?

If so, it must be very well hidden.

I don`t pay much attention to SL. I follow my own lower-division club and Rugby League throughout the world. Most of my AFL knowledge comes indirectly from following the NRL.

We used to have 3 TV channels. Channel 4 launched in 1982 with a remit to innovate and be different. This included broadcasting unusual sports from far-flung parts. On Saturday mornings they ran an hour long VFL highlights programme. I genuinely tried to get into it. Without success. Rather suspect I wasn`t alone.

AFL have played exhibition games at The Oval. Can remember seeing some footage of Collingwood v Essendon one year. Looked to be mostly expats in attendance. Probably had the same impact as their China and NZ excursions.

 

[mozza91]

Anyone else keen for a slap this weekend?

 

[hineyrulz]

 

[Pneuma]

There's 300 pokies within a 5 minute walk from my house, yet I've never played a game on them in my entire life.

Look at these damning facts.

‘Gambling capital of Australia’: Six charts that show the scale of poker machine use in NSW

New graphs show why NSW has a reputation as Australia’s “gambling capital”, with losses on the pokies totalling $3.8 billion.

amp.smh.com.au

They are legal you buffoon. You choose not play them well good for you. I enjoy playing them. Well good for me. Now shut up you intemperant prat.

 

[Pneuma]

Anyone else keen for a slap this weekend?

Heading to a massive pokies den in a fortnight for four nights (Launceston Casino). Bet on the dishlickers and the ponies, drink schooners, and play the pokes with the missus and our friends. The tutt tutt brigade can get stuffed!

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

There's 300 pokies within a 5 minute walk from my house, yet I've never played a game on them in my entire life.

Look at these damning facts.

‘Gambling capital of Australia’: Six charts that show the scale of poker machine use in NSW

New graphs show why NSW has a reputation as Australia’s “gambling capital”, with losses on the pokies totalling $3.8 billion.

amp.smh.com.au

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

I wish our game didn't have "rugby" in its name. It holds us back as people confuse it with rugby union.

We regularly have meltdowns on UK RL forums over this. End result of all the agonizing is - we`re stuck with it, that ship sailed long ago.

My line is that League fans should never use the word "Rugby" unaccompanied, either to refer to RL (as often happens in Northern England) or to refer to RU (as often happens in NSW/QLD).

I think "soccer" is an abbreviation of "association football".

Probably the best and simplest alternative official name for RL would have been "League Football". When doing research on RL history I`ve encountered the use of this term in New Zealand, including a Trade Union leader in the 1950s who had his own newspaper and published an article extolling the virtues of "League Football" and explaining why it was so popular in Auckland.

The chief objection is that "League" is too generic, but no more so than "Association".

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Heading to a massive pokies den in a fortnight for four nights (Launceston Casino). Bet on the dishlickers and the ponies, drink schooners, and play the pokes with the missus and our friends. The tutt tutt brigade can get stuffed!

Geez poor old Maude won’t like that .

 

[Pneuma]

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[Captain Apollo]

 

[Wb1234]

Nswrl was the dominant league state from 1908

pokies came in the 60s

even without them the nswrl poached qld players

in the 20s they took the best qld players (from Toowoomba) and some helped the bears win back to back premierships

if the nrl hasn’t admitted the broncs and cowboys would the brl have been able to withstand afl ? Probably not