Why didn't the AFL experience a super league war?

[Wb1234]

Appears high is correct, Still more details to come out.
Remembering that the $643m includes $50m from Telstra. On top of that upgrades to Marvel Stadium. So while it appears high, It might turn out to be market value

That’s a good way to break up the Telstra component.

 

[Iamback]

That’s a good way to break up the Telstra component.

It is often not reported. Nor has anyone seen the extra content

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Afl had three serious bids all fighting each other for the rights. No way they get $575mill from tv a year for 7 years if they just offered it to the incumbents like pistol Pete did.

What they got from Ch7/Foxtel per annum was similar to what Ch10/Paramount+ offered, albeit over a shorter period. It was a similar case for Cricket Australia in their recent deal. The idiot running our game gifted Foxtel a nice deal and they took it. Shows us who he works for.

 

[Cheese sandwich]

Personally, i hope vlandys puts the football on the sky racing channel and numerous times per game it gets punted over to the blue channel (sky 2) because redcliffe trots or bendigo greyhounds takes preference.

 

[Pneuma]

Personally, i hope vlandys puts the football on the sky racing channel and numerous times per game it gets punted over to the blue channel (sky 2) because redcliffe trots or bendigo greyhounds takes preference.

And each viewer could be given an Eski, poker machine and a pack of adult nappies as part of a loyalty rewards package. Jesus man. You’d never have to leave the dining room.

 

[Cheese sandwich]

And each viewer could be given an Eski, poker machine and a pack of adult nappies as part of a loyalty rewards package. Jesus man. You’d never have to leave the dining room.

Can even have keno tickets and pencils on the dining table to give it a real authentic feel.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Afl had three serious bids all fighting each other for the rights. No way they get $575mill from tv a year for 7 years if they just offered it to the incumbents like pistol Pete did.

Neither of us can know for sure, but I don`t believe the AFL ever genuinely contemplated switching broadcast partners.

Whether the ostensible alternative bidders thought so is another moot point. Perfectly possible they were just limbering up, testing the water. Only when the process itself is costly, as for example with a bid for the Olympic Games, can you be certain the effort is in earnest.

In my view, the media companies were "all fighting each other" like the town-hall wrestlers on ITV`s World of Sport. The word "sport" was a pretty elastic concept on that programme. I first saw Aussie Rules on there - 1976 GF Hawthorn v North Melbourne. Absolutely hilarious. Even funnier than the wrestling. Similar attire too.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Nah fox know which sport is number one for them

They have some odd ways of showing it.

Likewise Nine who claimed they urgently needed a reduction in payments, then took what PVL offered and promptly gave it to ARU. That was kicking sand in PVL`s face. The Fox part of the new AFL deal was a kick in the teeth.

The current absence of viable options away from Nine/Fox for NRL is not the fault of PVL. The desire of media executives to see AFL grow at the expense of NRL is also not down to him. He`s in a bind. Pandering and hoping seems the best course.

I suspect the large salary cap increase was partly designed to quell the disquiet emerging from the clubs over the respective NRL/AFL TV deals. Their patience will run out if PVL doesn`t deliver next time.

foxtel league ratings are on another level

Demotic appeal is subordinate to establishment clout. However galling to proletarian sensibilities, unless RL establishes a presence in elite schools the game will continue to struggle for prestige. High ratings, even on Pay TV, will still be deemed qualitatively poor.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Personally, i hope vlandys puts the football on the sky racing channel and numerous times per game it gets punted over to the blue channel (sky 2) because redcliffe trots or bendigo greyhounds takes preference.

RL on the BBC reached a new nadir one day in the 80s when Grandstand interrupted a Challenge Cup game for live coverage of the toss up for The Boat Race.

 

[Wb1234]

They have some odd ways of showing it.

Likewise Nine who claimed they urgently needed a reduction in payments, then took what PVL offered and promptly gave it to ARU. That was kicking sand in PVL`s face. The Fox part of the new AFL deal was a kick in the teeth.

The current absence of viable options to Nine/Fox for NRL is not the fault of PVL. The desire of media executives to see AFL grow at the expense of NRL is also not down to him. He`s in a bind. Pandering and hoping seems the best course.

I suspect the large salary cap increase was partly designed to quell the disquiet emerging from the clubs over the respective NRL/AFL TV deals. Their patience will run out if PVL doesn`t deliver next time.


Demotic appeal is subordinate to establishment clout. However galling to proletarian sensibilities, unless RL establishes a presence in elite schools the game will continue to struggle for prestige. High ratings, even on Pay TV, will still be deemed qualitatively poor.

Look that’s a great post

but rugby league is way more than a working class game in Australia

our previous tv deals haven’t been far off afl and they had 2 extra teams to sell

it’s defeatist saying League can’t get tv deals bigger than afl because it’s not played in private school

heck I went to a private school and I hate union. Even the hard core union guys from school are more league now with the collapse of super rugby

Dave smith is to blame for our situation re news ltd

 

[Cheese sandwich]

RL on the BBC reached a new nadir one day in the 80s when Grandstand interrupted a Challenge Cup game for live coverage of the toss up for The Boat Race.

I'm sure that went down well with the northern viewers having the ultimate Tory sport appear on their screens

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Neither of us can know for sure, but I don`t believe the AFL ever genuinely contemplated switching broadcast partners.

Whether the ostensible alternative bidders thought so is another moot point. Perfectly possible they were just limbering up, testing the water. Only when the process itself is costly, as for example with a bid for the Olympic Games, can you be certain the effort is in earnest.

In my view, the media companies were "all fighting each other" like the town-hall wrestlers on ITV`s World of Sport. The word "sport" was a pretty elastic concept on that programme. I first saw Aussie Rules on there - 1976 GF Hawthorn v North Melbourne. Absolutely hilarious. Even funnier than the wrestling. Similar attire too.

I hope Ch10/Paramount+ are still around in 2027. Signing a deal them will stick it to Ch9 and Foxtel.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Seven and Fox also know this. So why did they agree a new AFL broadcast deal that, to any objective observer, appears gratuitously high? When someone pays more for something which they could get for less, there has to be an ulterior motive.

If any members of this forum owned or had a major role at Nine or Fox would our affinity to RL be of no consequence? Would we forego opportunities to enhance our favourite sport and equip it with the means to grow?

AFL have nowhere to go outside Oz. NSW and QLD are their only feasible options for meaningful expansion. Anything to the detriment of RL is potentially an opening for AFL. Which partially explains Murdoch`s each-way gambit in the 90s.

When Rupert decides which political party ought to win an election all his journalists get the memo. He couldn`t have made it any clearer which football code he wanted to prevail in Australia. Everyone working for him, including those negotiating TV deals at Fox, will have got the message.

The NRL are yoked to a Pay TV partner who want their principal rival to succeed.

i think youll find Ruperts ulterior motive would have something to do with his new sports betting arm.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Nah fox know which sport is number one for them

part of this is history due to the super league war and afl taking the mantle of number one sport whilst league regrouped

plus they expanded aggressively whilst rugby league basically stood still

so their current tv deals are a reflection of this

and the last tv rights bidding for afl was initially poor

they had to add extra content to get more money ie a magic round copying rugby league and also team 19 being tasmania

they also hid their real deal behind a load of Telstra contra

foxtel league ratings are on another level

eventually the nrl will get rewarded for this by fox or stan or paramount potentially

Also I think the relationship has changed and as much as we dont like it we are now partners with fox as V'landys has said many times. They have a say in what happens sadly.

 

[Perth Red]

The current absence of viable options to Nine/Fox for NRL is not the fault of PVL. The desire of media executives to see AFL grow at the expense of NRL is also not down to him. He`s in a bind. Pandering and hoping seems the best course.

I suspect the large salary cap increase was partly designed to quell the disquiet emerging from the clubs over the respective NRL/AFL TV deals. Their patience will run out if PVL doesn`t deliver next time.

signing an extension during a crisis and not going out to competitive tender when the market conditions were better was his choice, it screwed us!

you think lol? like Grant who did exactly same thing to keep his job pistol Pete has thrown silly money at the clubs to keep them onside. We can only hope its not at the expense of the other parts of the game.

 

[LeagueXIII]

RL on the BBC reached a new nadir one day in the 80s when Grandstand interrupted a Challenge Cup game for live coverage of the toss up for The Boat Race.

Do you recall the game?

 

[Wb1234]

Also I think the relationship has changed and as much as we dont like it we are now partners with fox as V'landys has said many times. They have a say in what happens sadly.

We tried to fight them with Dave smith and lost badly

work with them until someone else wants the pay tv rights

the average pay tv audience now is massive anyway. If someone wants to be big in Australia league is the best content to do it

and it’s expanding

 

[Pneuma]

signing an extension during a crisis and not going out to competitive tender when the market conditions were better was his choice, it screwed us!

you think lol? like Grant who did exactly same thing to keep his job pistol Pete has thrown silly money at the clubs to keep them onside. We can only hope its not at the expense of the other parts of the game.

‘Pistol Pete’! The whinging Pom strikes again! Keep the hatred flowing bro!

 

[mongoose]

They have some odd ways of showing it.

Likewise Nine who claimed they urgently needed a reduction in payments, then took what PVL offered and promptly gave it to ARU. That was kicking sand in PVL`s face. The Fox part of the new AFL deal was a kick in the teeth.

The current absence of viable options to Nine/Fox for NRL is not the fault of PVL. The desire of media executives to see AFL grow at the expense of NRL is also not down to him. He`s in a bind. Pandering and hoping seems the best course.

I suspect the large salary cap increase was partly designed to quell the disquiet emerging from the clubs over the respective NRL/AFL TV deals. Their patience will run out if PVL doesn`t deliver next time.


Demotic appeal is subordinate to establishment clout. However galling to proletarian sensibilities, unless RL establishes a presence in elite schools the game will continue to struggle for prestige. High ratings, even on Pay TV, will still be deemed qualitatively poor.

Some people here don't fully grasp it. AFL and Union are the big end of town codes that get all the favours. NRL and soccer get the scraps.

 

[Wb1234]

Some people here don't fully grasp it. AFL and Union are the big end of town codes that get all the favours. NRL and soccer get the scraps.

Hahaha

640 million in turnover for the nrl

super rugby tv deal 35 million
Super rugby tv deal 95 million

nrl tv deal 430 million