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Why little mention of the CQ NRL bid?

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docbrown

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Have the bid team stated likely names for the team?

Bulls would make the most sense. Might have a problem with the Queensland Bulls though.

I've heard that the big organisers are called the 'Cattlemen' so you can bet Bulls is high on the list.
 

Red&BlackBear

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RedVee said:
I reckon CC Bears should be getting nervous, I think they may miss out unless a Sydney team falls over.

why would we be getting nervous? We have close to 4000 paid up members, 40,000 signitures, 5x the amount of sponsors both locally and major then any other bid, a community that actually wants us, money from sponsors being pumped into programs and initiatives, backing from both political parties, millions in equity and a great business plan built on private and public ownership model.

Not to mention a range of merchandise being sold at retail stores, 50x$5000 foundation memberships, ccdrl and nsdrl support and a stadium!

Read the papers, Bligh has promised a stadium but the elections are before. She will not win and libs haven't pledged anything and are not interested on building another stadium. Our Mortage House sponsorship deal is worth 4x's as much as their QRnational deal and on top of it we have 1.2million density within 2 hours. They have realistically 250k within 5 hours.

Not much to be worried here unless you are on something.
 

RedVee

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why would we be getting nervous? We have close to 4000 paid up members, 40,000 signitures, 5x the amount of sponsors both locally and major then any other bid, a community that actually wants us, money from sponsors being pumped into programs and initiatives, backing from both political parties, millions in equity and a great business plan built on private and public ownership model.

Not to mention a range of merchandise being sold at retail stores, 50x$5000 foundation memberships, ccdrl and nsdrl support and a stadium!

Read the papers, Bligh has promised a stadium but the elections are before. She will not win and libs haven't pledged anything and are not interested on building another stadium. Our Mortage House sponsorship deal is worth 4x's as much as their QRnational deal and on top of it we have 1.2million density within 2 hours. They have realistically 250k within 5 hours.

Not much to be worried here unless you are on something.

No I am not on anything. I will agree that the "right thing" would be for the Central Coast Bears to get in, and that they probably should not have been kicked out in the first place. North Sydney were the first team to do what the NRL wanted and relocated. In my heart I'd love them back - my wifes family are/were Nth Sydney supporters.

I believe that there is a growing media support that one of the next teams comes from Qld. Whether it be this one, Ipswich, or another 2nd Brisbane team - "For the good of the game".
Central Coast, for the same reasons that have been espoused up to now, become the easy option to leave out. Perhaps they even become a target for Newcastle if Tinkler gets up. We all know how aligned the NRL is to the media.

The best chance for the Bears is for a Sydney team to go belly up, or to put their hands up for a merge/relocation into Perth or Qld. But I think that is unlikely, they only need to hang on another year to get to the IC. As the NRL teams make up the majority on the proposed IC structure I am sure that a central tenet of the IC mission will be to ensure the survival of the current teams.

That is why I think they should be worried.
 

Mong

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The 650k might be true in that it would represent that many people but it's a misleading arguement. Nowhere near that many are going to be able to get to games.

Mackay 85k to Rocky - 3-4hours drive
Bundaberg 75k to Rocky - same as about
Gladstone 60k to Rocky - 1hour
Yepoon/Cap Coast 20k to South Rocky - 40minutes-1hour

Other than that it's all relitively small towns with most being more than an hour away besides Gracemere which might as be a suburb or Rockhampton seperated by a massive flood plain.

Even as a local I think it would be ludicrous to have a team here before:
  1. Perth
  2. 2nd Brisbane team
  3. Massive population boom
Getting an average of 15,000 crowds would be a truely magnificant effort which isn't saying much.

There was a full page spread in the local paper thursday with "5 reasons why the NRL can't say no to CQ" (I could give about 20 why they COULD) one of them had a dig at Perth's bid by saying "CQ had Xk origin viewers whilst Perth has 33k, getting a bit low to stoop to misleading arguements like that.

It sounds like they are focusing on the areas around Rocky, yeppon, gracemere and the Gladstone/tannum/calliope region which would be around 180k or so and all within around 1 hour away for crowds which is realistic. QR onboard as some kind if signage sponsorship with a major sponsor(s) in the works.

I don't see them having too many issues averaging 15-20k at all.

Am slowly warming to the area getting a team along with Perth.
 

Mong

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The 650k might be true in that it would represent that many people but it's a misleading arguement. Nowhere near that many are going to be able to get to games.

Mackay 85k to Rocky - 3-4hours drive
Bundaberg 75k to Rocky - same as about
Gladstone 60k to Rocky - 1hour
Yepoon/Cap Coast 20k to South Rocky - 40minutes-1hour

Other than that it's all relitively small towns with most being more than an hour away besides Gracemere which might as be a suburb or Rockhampton seperated by a massive flood plain.

Even as a local I think it would be ludicrous to have a team here before:
  1. Perth
  2. 2nd Brisbane team
  3. Massive population boom
Getting an average of 15,000 crowds would be a truely magnificant effort which isn't saying much.

There was a full page spread in the local paper thursday with "5 reasons why the NRL can't say no to CQ" (I could give about 20 why they COULD) one of them had a dig at Perth's bid by saying "CQ had Xk origin viewers whilst Perth has 33k, getting a bit low to stoop to misleading arguements like that.

It sounds like they are focusing on the areas around Rocky, yeppon, gracemere and the Gladstone/tannum/calliope region which would be around 180k or so and all within around 1 hour away for crowds which is realistic. QR onboard as some kind of signage sponsorship with a major sponsor(s) in the works.

I don't see them having too many issues averaging 15-20k at all.

Am slowly warming to the area getting a team along with Perth.
 

Red&BlackBear

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Brisbane NRL bid team labelled arrogant by Central Queensland rival



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  • February 23, 2011 5:55PM
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HITTING OUT: Chairman of the Central Queensland NRL bid team Geoff Murphy at a launch at the Old Customs House in Rockhampton. Picture: Murray Ware Source: News Limited



THE man behind the bid for an NRL team in Central Queensland has hit out at the arrogant attitude of those pushing for a third side in southeast Queensland.

Speaking out days after the bid for a second Brisbane franchise was unveiled, CQ NRL bid chairman Geoff Murphy said the people of central Queensland deserved a "fair go" when and if the NRL expanded its competition.
The NRL has said it would visit the idea of expansion midway through this year, with any plans for further teams sure to play an important role in upcoming television negotiations.
Murphy claimed adding a third NRL side to a region, which also boasts two AFL sides, two A-League clubs, the Queensland Reds and the state cricket side would only dilute the NRL's supporter base.
"Our CQ team will be popular, viable, successful and will unite our region as nothing has done in the past," Murphy said in a statement on Wednesday.
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"The NRL will be the primary beneficiary as the NRL will be expanded, not diluted.
"I am appalled at the way some southern Queenslanders think that they have a monopoly and virtual sole rights to implement their own plans at the expense of regional Queenslanders."
The Rockhampton-based Central Queensland has been guaranteed a new stadium by the State Government should it gain entry to the national competition.
The CQ team has yet to submit its bid to the NRL, having been told by the governing body to have its submission ready to go by mid year.

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Gloves off in bid for NRL team

Phil Lutton

February 23, 2011 - 6:27PM


The uneasy truce between the rival Queensland NRL bids has come to an explosive end, with the chairman of the Central Queensland bid Geoff Murphy taking aim at the "arrogant and selfish" Brisbane consortium.
In a blistering statement this afternoon, Murphy has lashed out in no uncertain terms at the way the "Battle for Brisbane" has been conducted as Craig Davison's bid for a second NRL team in the Queensland capital gains momentum.
Murphy said he was disgusted at the push for another team in a metropolitan region at the expense of fans in the regional areas and the bush.
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"I am appalled at the way some southern Queenslanders think that they have a monopoly and virtual sole rights to implement their own plans at the expense of regional Queenslanders," Murhpy said.
"This stockpiling of resources, facilities and straight out living standards, does not even consider fellow Queenslanders who have been loyal to rugby league and who have contributed so much to the wealth and wellbeing of our state and nation for many decades.
"I am exasperated by this denial of natural justice and, as regional Queenslanders, we should be saying that we have had enough. We want a simple fair go."
Murphy said the southeast of the state was already stacked with sporting franchises and didn't need another NRL team to add to the cocktail.
"The southeast corner of Queensland already has two NRL clubs, two AFL clubs, two A-League clubs, a Super 15 club, the state cricket team and dozens of major second tier sporting clubs across all codes.
"They are all seeking the hearts and minds of the metro public market and scouring the corporate sector for sponsorship funding.
"I have heard that they (the Brisbane bid) argue that Suncorp (Stadium) is only half utilised. My simple research tells me that over the whole 2011 NRL season there will be 23 games of NRL, State of Origin, Super 15, or Bledisloe Cup games conducted at the stadium.
"This excludes finals for the Broncos and the Reds. Is this enough, I ask?"
He also said the argument that many fans in Brisbane didn't support the Broncos had no relevance in deciding on a new NRL licence.
"Another quite illogical argument that I have heard is that if an NRL fan in the southeast supports another NRL team other than Broncos or Titans, e.g. Parramatta, Bulldogs etc, the third NRL team will produce a second time that this fan can see his team.
"What about considering rugby league fans who never get to watch a live game because the closest game is in Townsville or Brisbane, an eight hour drive each way, with overnight and travel expenses on top of the game costs – tickets, food and beverage etc?
"This is a ridiculous argument and again demonstrates the disregard that some Queenslanders have for their fellow Queenslanders."
The Brisbane bid team has set its sights high on coaches like Wayne Bennett and players like Sonny Bill Williams but Murphy labelled that type of behaviour as "unethical".
The CQ NRL Bid will not go around speculating on who is considered for our super coach, what players we may have on the rooster, which sponsor might be interested, which junior club could align with us.
"When we make an announcement we will have the deal done, sealed and delivered for the good of the game and the people involved. We have been very honest and transparent to date and we intend to maintain this integrity.
"The naming of people who may be involved and who have often not been consulted is another example of the lack of respect. I don't do it in business and I will not do it in the bid process. It is not ethical and often embarrasses the unsuspecting individual.
Murphy also questioned the support another NRL team in Brisbane could muster.
"So who will support this third team? Maybe only disgruntled Broncos or Titans fans. How is this growing the NRL market? It does not grow anything. It only weakens what we already have.
Davison refused to fire back at CQ, saying he was good friends with Murphy and the outburst simply showed how much passion was involved in the race for a new Queensland-based NRL team.


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/gloves-off-in-bid-for-nrl-team-20110223-1b5at.html
 
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BDGS

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Brisbane NRL bid team labelled arrogant by Central Queensland rival


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HITTING OUT: Chairman of the Central Queensland NRL bid team Geoff Murphy at a launch at the Old Customs House in Rockhampton. Picture: Murray Ware Source: News Limited



THE man behind the bid for an NRL team in Central Queensland has hit out at the arrogant attitude of those pushing for a third side in southeast Queensland.

Speaking out days after the bid for a second Brisbane franchise was unveiled, CQ NRL bid chairman Geoff Murphy said the people of central Queensland deserved a "fair go" when and if the NRL expanded its competition.
The NRL has said it would visit the idea of expansion midway through this year, with any plans for further teams sure to play an important role in upcoming television negotiations.
Murphy claimed adding a third NRL side to a region, which also boasts two AFL sides, two A-League clubs, the Queensland Reds and the state cricket side would only dilute the NRL's supporter base.
"Our CQ team will be popular, viable, successful and will unite our region as nothing has done in the past," Murphy said in a statement on Wednesday.
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Bold part - a very real risk.
 

Perth Red

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how does having 6 teams from other codes risk diluting the NRL's supporter base, that makes no sense! Have to laugh at these regional folk and their massive metro chip on their shoulders, you choose to live in woop woop!

Rockhampton pop 65k, no stadium, no value add to TV. No chance!
 

Lockyer4President!

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how does having 6 teams from other codes risk diluting the NRL's supporter base, that makes no sense! Have to laugh at these regional folk and their massive metro chip on their shoulders, you choose to live in woop woop!

Rockhampton pop 65k, no stadium, no value add to TV. No chance!

Now you know how we feel when Perthicans pipe up every so often.
 

Apey

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Well thats just silly, it's an ongoing thread with alot of information constantly coming in. It's easier to keep it all in one thread for the links, articles, updates etc.

it is locked on purpose, something to do with reducing forum/server lag I think
 

Red&BlackBear

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it is locked on purpose, something to do with reducing forum/server lag I think

Fair enough.

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CQ bid targets Broncos coach

Phil Lutton

February 23, 2011 - 6:26PM

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New Broncos coach Anthony Griffin.

The plot surrounding the coaching job at the Brisbane Broncos has thickened, with the chief of the Central Queensland bid team saying they would consider swooping on Anthony Griffin should they be granted NRL status and Wayne Bennett return to Red Hill in 2012.
Griffin is two days into his NRL head coaching career after being thrust into the top job in the wake of Brisbane's sudden axing of Ivan Henjak, who was told on Monday of his fate.
Henjak's former deputy Griffin will lead the Broncos in the 2011 season but with Wayne Bennett now rated an odds-on prospect of returning to the club he coached to six premierships, Griffin faces the possibility of having one season at the top before returning to his assistant's post.
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But the options are starting to appear for the former Redcliffe mentor, who rugby league insiders believe has the tactical and political nous to cut it as a head coach.
Griffin is from Rockhampton and Denis Keeffe, who is the chief executive of the CQ push for an NRL licence, said Griffin would be at the top of their list should they be successful.
Keeffe is close to many at the Broncos - he was the best man at Bruno Cullen's wedding - and said he had no interest in any hostilities with the club. But the quality of 'Hook' Griffin and his ties to the CQ region mean he would be a logical choice for an inaugural head coach.
The CQ bid has been reluctant to produce wishlists of coaches or players until a successful licence has been granted but admitted Griffin's name had already been discussed with chairman Geoff Murphy.
"We haven't done anything formal but as an executive team Geoff and I have kicked around some names. Hook's name is very prominent on our list," Keeffe said.
"We won't go and publish a wishlist like the other Brisbane mob. We won't do that. When we announce something it will be signed and sealed.
"But Anthony is a very, very proud Central Queenslander. He's very passionate about this region and one of the best – until yesterday – one of the best unappointed coaches in the world I would think.
"Personality wise he's top of the tree, he is very, very good strategically. I think he'll do very well at the Broncos. They might say he's too good to lose."
Keeffe compared Griffin to Gold Coast Titans coach John Cartwright, who had a thorough grounding as an assistant at the Sydney Roosters before shifting to the Titans, where he has been a roaring success and earned a five-year contract extension.
"There are two ways to go with your head coach. You can bring in the big gun and he will help you do the recruiting. You get that experienced head coach," Keeffe said.
"Or you can do what Michael Searle did and bring in someone like John Cartwright, who is an outstanding coach who has been exposed to the NRL via his assistant coaching roles."
The interest in Griffin, albeit from a club yet to be granted full status, will be food for thought at the Broncos. If Bennett were to return at aged 62, there is a strong chance they would lose Griffin, who some believe has the talent to be a longterm solution at the club.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/cq-bid-targets-broncos-coach-20110223-1b5bb.html
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Flooding wont stop CQ NRL bid

23rd February 2011


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Bid leader Geoff Murphy




QUEENSLAND’S costly summer of flooding has not swept away Central Queensland’s chances of getting a premiership rugby league team.
There were fears that Premier Anna Bligh‘s pledge to build a multi-million dollar stadium in Rockhampton would be withdrawn because of the huge cost of rebuilding flood-damaged infrastructure.
But CQ NRL Bid chairman Geoff Murphy says he has been reassured that, should the bid be successful, money for the stadium will be found.
Mr Murphy said Rockhampton MP Robert Schwarten had given him a personal assurance that the promised funding had not been taken off the table.
And Mr Murphy remains “very confident” that the region will be cheering on its own team in the near future.
“The CQ NRL Bid continues to build momentum and the re-affirmation of the Queensland Government’s stadium commitment is crucial,” he said.
“CQ deserves its own national rugby league team and the bid team remains focussed on presenting the most compelling case for entry into the NRL competition.
“The ongoing support of the State Government is imperative and I thank Mr Schwarten for his diligent work on our behalf.”
The bid petition has been signed by more than 26,000 and the case for a CQ team has won widespread support from businesses.
QR National, one of Australia’s largest companies, has agreed to be the principal sponsor.


http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/story/2011/02/23/flooding-wont-stop-cq-nrl-bid-rockhampton/


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QLD around $4billion in the red and CQLD NRL bid still think they'll get their stadium?? Either some wishful thinking or the Bligh Government is trying to get voted out of office asap.
 

applesauce

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QLD around $4billion in the red and CQLD NRL bid still think they'll get their stadium?? Either some wishful thinking or the Bligh Government is trying to get voted out of office asap.

The bitch did the same thing for the Suns in an even worse position even when the AFL had the funds to pay for it itself. I don't see why she wouldn't (considering she signed a legally binding document).
 

BDGS

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how does having 6 teams from other codes risk diluting the NRL's supporter base, that makes no sense! Have to laugh at these regional folk and their massive metro chip on their shoulders, you choose to live in woop woop!

Rockhampton pop 65k, no stadium, no value add to TV. No chance!

Oh how i would love to see the argument started by this between this poster and that CQitalia (i think thats right) poster.
 

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