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Why little mention of the CQ NRL bid?

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mightybears

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I don't using a name of a previous premiership team is the way to go, the "jets" will always be tied with newtown. Need a nickname that is synonymous with Ipswich not both Ipswich and newtown.

Newtown had the Jets moniker/name from the late 70's onwards. The Ipswich Jets kicked off a few years after Newtown were 'murdered' from the NSWRL andoriginally were Green & White. I honestly have no idea what colour Ipswich's Bulimba Cup teams wore. A team based at Ipswich has every right if it doesn't want a new moniker [obviously getting the QRL club's ok].
 
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Highway1

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Newtown had the Jets moniker/name from the late 70's onwards. The Ipswich Jets kicked off a few years after Newtown were 'murdered' from the NSWRL andoriginally were Green & White. I honestly have no idea what colour Ipswich's Bulimba Cup teams wore. A team based at Ipswich has every right if it doesn't want a new moniker [obviously getting the QRL club's ok].

I'm not sure about the ipswich's bulimba cup too, but i'm sure the Ipswich council colours are Green and Yellow with a hint of maroon somewhere. They'll probably have too get a new nickname, it just too difficult to enter the nrl with name already used.
 

Perth Red

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QR has an arm called QR national which known for carrying coal and Newcastle is known for its huge coal deposits. Make sense?

In saying QR no longer owns QR national






Better relations with coal and freight businesses based in Newcastle.

I always wonder why some companies sponsor a team/code. I can understand a car company or electronics company etc as they want to get their name/products in front of as many people as possible but would someone like QR really get any business form advertising on the Knights jerseys? Is there tax breaks for sponsoring a sports team?
 

bobmar28

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I'm not sure about the ipswich's bulimba cup too, but i'm sure the Ipswich council colours are Green and Yellow with a hint of maroon somewhere. They'll probably have too get a new nickname, it just too difficult to enter the nrl with name already used.

They have every right to use the name they have had for 30 years.

And by the way. Which NRL team uses the name JETS?
 

applesauce

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NRL boss David Gallop likens central Queensland's roots to soccer giant Manchester United
Matt Marshall
The Courier-Mail
November 24, 2010

CENTRAL Queensland's NRL Bid Team has impressed with its bold vision to become the state's fourth NRL club - with wide-eyed NRL boss David Gallop last night likening its roots to world sporting empire Manchester United.

But CQ's fate still lies with the game's pending eight-member independent commission, to potentially include radio king Alan Jones, under which Gallop is set to be the inaugural CEO.

It must rule next year on an ideological dilemma between expansion into the code's heartlands, led by CQ and NSW's Central Coast Bears, or new frontiers such as Perth, Adelaide, or a second New Zealand entrant.

CQ, which is gunning for NRL entry in 2013 alongside existing state flagbearers Brisbane Broncos, North Queensland Cowboys and Gold Coast Titans, is currently hosting its official "wine and dine" pitch to Gallop and NRL chief operating officer Graham Annesley.

Speaking from the "Beef Capital", Rockhampton, Gallop admitted he was blown away by the scale of booming industry, led by the resource sector, within the region.

"I didn't need to come up here to know about the passion of rugby league people but it has been an eye-opener to see the scale of industry and plans for the economic future of the area," Gallop said.

"Whether it's Manchester United, the Pittsburgh Steelers (NFL) or Newcastle Knights - it's easy to find examples where sport has followed industry, and indeed our game's birthplace was the coalfields of Northern England." Gallop and Annesley were escorted to the two-day tour of the region from Sydney on Monday night in the private jet of local mining magnate and major backer Geoff Murphy.

The whirlwind visit includes tours to the proposed site of a State Government-backed $140 million, 25,000-seat stadium - modelled on Robina's Skilled Park - the bid team's existing leagues club, and expanding industry in Rockhampton, Mackay, Emerald and Gladstone. If social network website Facebook is anything to go by, CQ already has the public's endorsement.

It is yet to kick a ball in anger, or have an official name, but it boasts nearly twice (8398) the Facebook members, or "friends", as potential local derby rival the Cowboys (4437).

While their budding social media following is impressive, and enhanced by more than 25,000 petition signatures, there's plenty more substance in the "Cattlemen" bid.

It includes a major sponsorship commitment from top-50 ASX company QR National, which has dropped its support for rugby's Queensland Reds.

The June pledge of Premier Anna Bligh to build a state-of-the-art stadium, reinforced in a personal meeting with Gallop in Brisbane last week, is another major trump card.

A viable social club is also in the Bid Team's keep, after last year's takeover of Rockhampton Brothers Leagues Club.
 

CC_Roosters

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It's a pipe dream, along with PNG.

Its a long shot but certainly not a pipe dream. Money talks and it has vast corporate support which the NRL would certainly take into account. In reality i just cant see a region with 100k supporting a team yet, a quarter of the population turning out to fill the stadium seems unlikely to me.
 

Highway1

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NRL chief executive David Gallop confirms central Queensland as serious contender in rugby league expansion

CENTRAL Queensland's hopes of securing an NRL licence have soared, with NRL chief executive David Gallop saying the region is now a serious contender in the push for expansion.

While refusing to rule out an Ipswich base for a fourth Queensland team, Gallop said the code would be "mad" not to consider expanding to Central Queensland, as bid chief Geoff Murphy detailed the industry billions that could make CQ the most viable club in the NRL.

Gallop has been tight-lipped on the issue of expansion, but after completing a whirlwind two-day tour of Central Queensland yesterday, the NRL boss walked away convinced there was substance to CQ's proposal to enter the big league.

The NRL will begin seriously investigating the merits of expansion in mid-2011, effectively giving rival Queensland bidders such as Ipswich and Sunshine Coast only seven months to mount compelling cases for inclusion.

The NSW Central Coast and Perth are other possible expansion targets, but Gallop left Rockhampton in Murphy's private jet yesterday afternoon impressed by CQ's potential.

"We may well be at the start of something special for Central Queensland," said Gallop, who visited CQ strongholds Rockhampton, Gladstone, Emerald and Mackay during the trip.

"Passion is great but you need to put meat on the bone and that's what Denis (Keeffe, CQ bid chief executive) and Geoff (Murphy) have been doing.

"To take us over Gladstone, show us the massive infrastructure that is going in up here and the industrial growth, it makes you realise that there is meat on the bone in this area.

"We would be mad not to have a serious look at Central Queensland."

The main stumbling block for the CQ bid is the lack of an NRL-standard stadium, but Premier Anna Bligh's commitment to building a 20,000-seat complex would solve that problem.

"It's certainly a big part of this bid's attraction that the people up here are looking for a team in a national sporting competition," Gallop said.
 

Mong

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Gladstone to Mackay would be 4 hours or so by car and 3 hours from Rocky to mackay and one of the most boring trips you will ever see, i wonder how many would make that trip regularly if they built it there.

Gladstone is simply too small to base a team out of, lots of industry and a very transient population to go with it.

I'd like to see it happen for the area but i doubt it will happen.
 

bobmar28

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Its a long shot but certainly not a pipe dream. Money talks and it has vast corporate support which the NRL would certainly take into account. In reality i just cant see a region with 100k supporting a team yet, a quarter of the population turning out to fill the stadium seems unlikely to me.

160k - Mackay/Rocky. 200k if surrounding areas are included.
 
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Mong

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Plus Bundaberg and Gladstone at 150,000 or so and you get a total of 350,000 or so.

4 hours or so from gladstone to mackay and five to five and a half to brisbane and bundy is further south than gladstone.

Despite the dislike of SE Queensland by folk outside of SE Queensland i think they are more likely to come to Brisbane and support the ponies more often than make the trip to Mackay where there is nothing to do other than go to the game..
 

RedVee

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The boss of the CQ bid was on talkin sport tonight and is quoting 650k pop for the region which stretches from Bundaberg to Mackay and coast to border. Written guarantee for the funding of the stadium which will be a replica of the GC ground and be alongside the river in Rocky. 6500 juniors in the area atm and he wants 70% locals in the squad. He confirmed the just listed QNR as the major sponsor plus says there is more corporates itching to get involved.

I reckon CC Bears should be getting nervous, I think they may miss out unless a Sydney team falls over.



Newtown had the Jets moniker/name from the late 70's onwards. The Ipswich Jets kicked off a few years after Newtown were 'murdered' from the NSWRL andoriginally were Green & White. I honestly have no idea what colour Ipswich's Bulimba Cup teams wore. A team based at Ipswich has every right if it doesn't want a new moniker [obviously getting the QRL club's ok].
Early 70s, jack Gibson was coach at the time, so around '73 (memory).
 
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jim_57

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The boss of the CQ bid was on talkin sport tonight and is quoting 650k pop for the region which stretches from Bundaberg to Mackay and coast to border. Written guarantee for the funding of the stadium which will be a replica of the GC ground and be alongside the river in Rocky. 6500 juniors in the area atm and he wants 70% locals in the squad. He confirmed the just listed QNR as the major sponsor plus says there is more corporates itching to get involved.

I reckon CC Bears should be getting nervous, I think they may miss out unless a Sydney team falls over.




Early 70s, jack Gibson was coach at the time, so around '73 (memory).

The 650k might be true in that it would represent that many people but it's a misleading arguement. Nowhere near that many are going to be able to get to games.

Mackay 85k to Rocky - 3-4hours drive
Bundaberg 75k to Rocky - same as about
Gladstone 60k to Rocky - 1hour
Yepoon/Cap Coast 20k to South Rocky - 40minutes-1hour

Other than that it's all relitively small towns with most being more than an hour away besides Gracemere which might as be a suburb or Rockhampton seperated by a massive flood plain.

Even as a local I think it would be ludicrous to have a team here before:
  1. Perth
  2. 2nd Brisbane team
  3. Massive population boom
Getting an average of 15,000 crowds would be a truely magnificant effort which isn't saying much.

There was a full page spread in the local paper thursday with "5 reasons why the NRL can't say no to CQ" (I could give about 20 why they COULD) one of them had a dig at Perth's bid by saying "CQ had Xk origin viewers whilst Perth has 33k, getting a bit low to stoop to misleading arguements like that.
 

beave

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yeah, but were the bid to get up, Mackay is geographically 'North' Central Qld. Bundaberg people on the otherhand would certainly not see themselves as Central Quenslanders.

Rubbish. Mackay has always been considered the start of north queensland, this north central qld u speak of is horse sh*t.Most people in mackay are either cowboys or broncos fans. Trying to say mackay is going to all of a sudden switch allegiances to a team that is almosy exactly the same distance away as it is from Townsville is ridiculous and far fetched. Im actually suprised Dennis Keefe is involved in this bid, some of the utter crap i have been reading about the 'likeness of Man U' is diatribe, the NRL would be fools to admit this team over the likes of Perth and a 2nd brissy team or even the bears.
 

mightybears

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Rubbish. Mackay has always been considered the start of north queensland, this north central qld u speak of is horse sh*t.Most people in mackay are either cowboys or broncos fans. Trying to say mackay is going to all of a sudden switch allegiances to a team that is almosy exactly the same distance away as it is from Townsville is ridiculous and far fetched. Im actually suprised Dennis Keefe is involved in this bid, some of the utter crap i have been reading about the 'likeness of Man U' is diatribe, the NRL would be fools to admit this team over the likes of Perth and a 2nd brissy team or even the bears.

I know where Mackay is, and i didn't say the people would switch allegiance. I'm saying the CQ people will see it as the northern border of their catchment for marketing/support purposes.
 

beave

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I didnt mean to make it sound likei was having a go at you over mackay switching allegiances all of a sudden, it was aimed at the CQ bid and what I have read their intentions of who they are targetting as a fan base. In 10 years time maybe but the lure of a live saturday night 9:30 east coast time on tv from perth where a population of over a mil is located is too good to refuse. They need to go with perth first and foremost, they are a must IMO.
 
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Smiley

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Have the bid team stated likely names for the team?

Bulls would make the most sense. Might have a problem with the Queensland Bulls though.
 
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