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WiL R10 // Sea Eagles 15-14 Knights @ Brookvale // Mon 7pm

Round 10 result :: Sea Eagles vs Knights

  • Them

    Votes: 7 100.0%
  • Us

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Draw after golden point

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .

Noname36

First Grade
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Just putting it out there, I think Mamo is too small to ever be a FG winger. Bulking up might help a bit (don't want him loosing his speed either) but you need to be tall enough to play wing these days and we can't actually do anything about that.

Future is certainly at fullback IMO. If Boyd happens to be here longer than McManus or Uate for whatever reason then he needs to move to the wing.

Coming in on the wing now and again is fine for Mamo now to ease him into FG, but I can't see him there long term given his size.
 

betcats

Referee
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I only watched the last ten minutes, basically from when Gids missed that penalty and I can see you have been praising Boyd for his efforts but where was he for the last two tries? Not even close to the ball. I know neither kick was his to cover but you would expect your fullback to make the effort to get across in case he is needed, the second try especially he was was just jogging across while the ball was in the air I mean Mcmanus should of held it and I doubt Boyd could of stopped either try but two tries off kicks to win the game and the fullback doesnt even challenge in anyway either of them.
 

Dave_

Juniors
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I only watched the last ten minutes, basically from when Gids missed that penalty and I can see you have been praising Boyd for his efforts but where was he for the last two tries? Not even close to the ball. I know neither kick was his to cover but you would expect your fullback to make the effort to get across in case he is needed, the second try especially he was was just jogging across while the ball was in the air I mean Mcmanus should of held it and I doubt Boyd could of stopped either try but two tries off kicks to win the game and the fullback doesnt even challenge in anyway either of them.

+1

212m doesn't necessarily mean he put in a massive effort, it just means the ball came to him on the full alot and he didn't have a winger to pass it to. When you watch him off the ball, you see what a truly lazy, careless player he is.
 

Rod

Bench
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Oh god, Taufua's second try was barely Uate's fault let alone Boyd's.

Change the record, guys.
 

aqua_duck

Coach
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Just putting it out there, I think Mamo is too small to ever be a FG winger. Bulking up might help a bit (don't want him loosing his speed either) but you need to be tall enough to play wing these days and we can't actually do anything about that.

Future is certainly at fullback IMO. If Boyd happens to be here longer than McManus or Uate for whatever reason then he needs to move to the wing.

Coming in on the wing now and again is fine for Mamo now to ease him into FG, but I can't see him there long term given his size.

As long as Uate can't catch it doesn't matter how tall Mamo is because the majority of kicks will be aimed at Uate
 

Rod

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:roll:

Read better.

Wasn't specifically aimed at you, moreso just the general anti-Boyd sentiment that insists that he cops the blame for everything.

Apart from the botched FG I don't know how people could find reason to complain about him last night. Plenty of tries get scored from kicks to the wingers and the fullback is nowhere to be seen, I think blaming Boyd for the ones last night when Uate and McManus were the ones that made the errors is drawing a long bow.
 

Johns Magic

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Mamo will be a fullback, I have little doubt. That break he made last night where Starling collared him was young Billy.
 
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Mamo will be a fullback, I have little doubt. That break he made last night where Starling collared him was young Billy.

My thoughts exactly at the time. If Mamo was two to three years older, had more weight training on board and explosive sprint training under his belt he would have left Starling in his wake. He has the potential to be a world class player. I also feel it might be time to push Darius up to 6 and move Mullo to halfback. Don't jump down my throat about it guys. We need to use our most talented squad every week. Mamo is part of that. Roberts to the utility role. Darius is best when he runs straight. He is very good at the hitup. We are desperate now. We need to shake things up.
 
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betcats

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Wasn't specifically aimed at you, moreso just the general anti-Boyd sentiment that insists that he cops the blame for everything.

Apart from the botched FG I don't know how people could find reason to complain about him last night. Plenty of tries get scored from kicks to the wingers and the fullback is nowhere to be seen, I think blaming Boyd for the ones last night when Uate and McManus were the ones that made the errors is drawing a long bow.

Fair enough mate. I wasnt blaiming him for the tries or the loss just saying in the ten minutes I watched, when the game was on the line his effort in defense was lacking. Again I dont think he would of stopped the tries had he made the effort both times to get across but you never know, I didnt think Moylan could keep that grubber from going dead last week.

When the team is in a hole like Newy right now you need guys willing to make extra efforts to dig you out, especially senior players.
 

Rod

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Yeah fair call, certainly Boyd can be found wanting when it comes to covering grubbers into the in-goal and the like. I haven't watched the tries from last night again but I daresay there's not a lot he could have done about those ones, but you have a point about his covering of kicks sometimes.
 

Frederick

Moderator
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I'm enjoying the fact that we've got so many away games at the moment.

Means I'm not wasting precious time, petrol and money going to the game to watch them stink it up. I can do it from the comfort of my own couch, and I don't even have to wear pants!
 

RHCP

Bench
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I'm enjoying the fact that we've got so many away games at the moment.

Means I'm not wasting precious time, petrol and money going to the game to watch them stink it up. I can do it from the comfort of my own couch, and I don't even have to wear pants!
Crowds would skyrocket if they got rid of the archaic "wear some pants" rule.
 

Apey

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Staff member
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How often has Gidley fronted the press conference after a game this year, out of curiosity? Is it usually him who does it?
 

undertaker

Coach
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...knights-a-shot-at-victory-20140520-zrj3a.html

Another thrilling finish. Another NRL c**k-up?
Manly won Monday night’s match with a field goal but confused rulings over time off in the thrilling final minutes raised the possibility Newcastle still had an opportunity to win.
The referee correctly allowed the clock to stop after Newcastle’s Darius Boyd had earlier failed with a field goal attempt, but inexplicably did not call time out when Manly’s Jack Littlejohn was also unsuccessful.
The Sea Eagles won the match 15-14 when Daly Cherry-Evans kicked a one-pointer, from a seventh-tackle play-the-ball with five seconds left on the TV time clock.
The NRL introduced a rule this year which does not allow time off in the final five minutes of a game, except for mandated stoppages.
Most coaches, and probably all fans, believed that time off was only called following a conversion, a successful penalty kick at goal or field goal, with play restarted at the centre of the half way line: rule 2(a).
However, rule 2(b) also says time out applies in the final five minutes of a match “following an unsuccessful penalty kick at goal or field goal that goes in touch in-goal or over the dead-ball line.”
The NRL’s general manager of football operations Nathan McGuirk confirmed the referee was correct in calling time out following Boyd’s failed attempt but could not explain why he did not stop the clock following Littlejohn’s attempt.
Fans contacting the Herald have calculated Newcastle still had 11 seconds left following Cherry-Evans' successful attempt, if the time out had been called.
A short kick-off, yielding a penalty, could have seen the Knights win the game.
Following the controversial end to the Melbourne versus St George Illawarra game, referees have been pedantic about ruling full-time, blowing it during a play-the-ball and disregarding scrums already packed by the trailing team.
Yet, as one fan asked, “If the NRL is taking the stance that the blowing of the full-time siren and the referee calling full-time must be precise to the second, then how come the referees are not applying Rule 2(b) the instant the missed field goal crosses the dead ball line?”
When explaining the new rules back in April, the NRL did not mention that unsuccessful field goals would result in time off.
And the NRL's 2014 rule 2(b), unlike 2(a), doesn't say when or where time on restarts.
If fans, and some of the NRL’s top coaches, don’t know the rules, rugby league could end up like rugby union. Fans with long memories are accustomed to the Silvertails winning matches on the seventh tackle.
This time, however, the Sea Eagles were legitimately allowed an extra tackle.
Another rule, also introduced this season, awards possession at the 20-metre line, plus seven tackles, to a team following a kick by the opposition that goes dead.
It was designed to stop the negative tactic of teams kicking the ball over the dead-ball line in order to eat up the clock, or prevent brilliant fullbacks returning the ball.
The rules have, as the Herald predicted earlier this year, meant unsuccessful field goals at one end of the field are punished by successful ones at the other end.
Furthermore, it has also caused the near-death of golden point.
Ironically, the losing coach on Monday night – Newcastle’s Wayne Bennett – is a member of the rules committee which introduced seventh-tackle field goals.
 

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