World Cup winning coach says it best

[skeepe]

yep the same thing is going around australia. God help us.

eddie is going to japan because thats the graveyard of coaches.

Eddie has been offered many jobs by all reports, quite a few coaching powerful European clubs. The Japan job is the national team position. Also, if Japan is such a graveyard, how did Eddie get to be national coach in the first place? He coached in Japan before he came to the Brumbies. He also has Japanese heritage - perhaps another reason the Japan job is so attractive to him.

if he was any good in the eyes of any other nation, he would have been offered a place on their staff.

Was John Mitchell offered a place on anyone else's staff, Japan or otherwise when he was sacked by NZ? No. But we all still regard him as a good coach. As I said, Eddie has at least one national team offer and a few European club offers.

for eddie's own sake, i hope he realises what fatal errors he made when he was at the wallabies because hes not such a bad guy that we have to eternally hate him.

Eddie's only error was planning for the future, and assuming the dunderheads at the ARU would let him.

 

[lockyno1]

Eddie's only error was planning for the future, and assuming the dunderheads at the ARU would let him.

And continuing with a halfback that is so past it, it isn't even funny! Had he rightfully sacked Gregan before they went to Europe he may have kept his job!

 

[blackfriday]

Eddie has been offered many jobs by all reports, quite a few coaching powerful European clubs

which ones?

He also has Japanese heritage - perhaps another reason the Japan job is so attractive to him

how that strengthens eddie's case as a good coach beats me.

Was John Mitchell offered a place on anyone else's staff, Japan or otherwise when he was sacked by NZ?

maybe because the aru had put him on alert that he would be seriously considered as coach for the new super 14 franchise. im not sure about you, but you would rather take that job than be an assistant coach in another country.

and supporting gregan and saying that eddie had a plan is like those nutter historians who keep going on about how julius caesar had a plan to revolutionise rome. its not funny.

 

[CanadianSteve]

They should go with Woodward as coach and Mitchell as his assistant to coach forwards. If a Swede can coach England soccer, why not a Pom and a Kiwi for the Wallabies?

 

[lockyno1]

They should go with Woodward as coach and Mitchell as his assistant to coach forwards. If a Swede can coach England soccer, why not a Pom and a Kiwi for the Wallabies?

Um...we want to win the world cup not choke like England soccer! FFS Woodward is just not the answer his tactics were shown to be flawed on the Lions tour of NZ. No thanks.

 

[skeepe]

lockyno1's selection criteria: go for the coach with the least qualifications and ignore all those with solid credentials.

Boy am I glad you're not on the selection committee.

 

[lockyno1]

lockyno1's selection criteria: go for the coach with the least qualifications and ignore all those with solid credentials.

Boy am I glad you're not on the selection committee.

No I want one that can win a world cup! The only one I can see doing that in 07' is Nuicifora. McKensie is a great coach but it is a bit too early. The other coaches are not near these two. Um..so how is Nuicifora not quailified or McKensie for that matter! FFS you want a Brumbies coach that failed in his first year. You can have all the injuries you like but you still had internationals in your side. The style of play would not win a world cup. As simple as that. Plus he would select Gregan who is dead wood!

 

[skeepe]

No I want one that can win a world cup! The only one I can see doing that in 07' is Nuicifora. McKensie is a great coach but it is a bit too early. The other coaches are not near these two. Um..so how is Nuicifora not quailified or McKensie for that matter! FFS you want a Brumbies coach that failed in his first year. You can have all the injuries you like but you still had internationals in your side. The style of play would not win a world cup. As simple as that. Plus he would select Gregan who is dead wood!

You have no proof who would or would not select Gregan. MacKenzie may select Gregan. Nucifora may select Gregan. Woodward may select Gregan. Mitchell may select Gregan. Connelly may select Gregan. All would be justified if his form in the Super 14 warrants it.

Woodward is a great coach who could get us the world cup. Jones is a great coach who could get us the world cup. Connelly is a great coach who could get us the world cup. Fisher is a half-decent coach who may get us the world cup. MacKenzie is a half-decent coach who may get us the world cup. Nucifora is a drop-out who has no chance of getting us the world cup.

 

[lockyno1]

You have no proof who would or would not select Gregan. MacKenzie may select Gregan. Nucifora may select Gregan. Woodward may select Gregan. Mitchell may select Gregan. Connelly may select Gregan. All would be justified if his form in the Super 14 warrants it.

Woodward is a great coach who could get us the world cup. Jones is a great coach who could get us the world cup. Connelly is a great coach who could get us the world cup. Fisher is a half-decent coach who may get us the world cup. MacKenzie is a half-decent coach who may get us the world cup. Nucifora is a drop-out who has no chance of getting us the world cup.

Woodward was good, wonder why...he had a great pack and a fly half that could kick drop goals and penalties from everywhere! They hardly scored tries! We don't have a flyhalf that could do that! Nuicifora has the results on the board- a Super 12 title. None of the others do. Plus he is known for not taking crap form when picking people. That is exactly what we need. McKenisie will probally get the job, but I think Nuicifora will be the best man we could get for the job as he tries to "win at all costs" which is the way it should be. As for Gregan he won't be selected barring an absolute miracle as all the other halfbacks run the ball more and have a better kicking game than he does. We need a halfback with a quick pass and Gregan has one of the slowest!

 

[blackfriday]

if we are going on super 12 form, fourie du preez would be the best halfback in the world and he cant even make the springbok starting lineup. david nucifora takes no crap from anyone, he doesnt bend to senior players, and that makes him the perfect guy to usher in an era of change.

 

[lockyno1]

if we are going on super 12 form, fourie du preez would be the best halfback in the world and he cant even make the springbok starting lineup. david nucifora takes no crap from anyone, he doesnt bend to senior players, and that makes him the perfect guy to usher in an era of change.

BINGO!

 

[skeepe]

He won't "usher in" an era of change, he will benefit from the excellent work Jones has already done to ensure that any change is a smooth one. Jones has already started the so-called "era of change" the ARU just didn't let him finish it.

 

[blackfriday]

if you think that picking all those youngsters, taking them on tour, and then insulting their playing ability by leaving them on the bench all game until the last five minutes while watching guys that have had plenty of opportunities before play like crap is 'ushering in an era of change', i'd love to see what sort of adjectives you would use when these young guys actually get a proper chance.

 

[lockyno1]

if you think that picking all those youngsters, taking them on tour, and then insulting their playing ability by leaving them on the bench all game until the last five minutes while watching guys that have had plenty of opportunities before play like crap is 'ushering in an era of change', i'd love to see what sort of adjectives you would use when these young guys actually get a proper chance.

Exactly, I mean if you want to take youngsters on tour you play them for more than 5 minutes FFS!

 

[skeepe]

There really is no point debating with closed-minded idiots like yourself.

 

[lockyno1]

There really is no point debating with closed-minded idiots like yourself.

Well you are the one that still thinks Gregan is the best no9, and Henjak outplayed him on the European tour and Whittaker still is better than him! Plus you are the one that forgets that Jones' away record is something like 4 wins from 30 odd games! But let me guess he is still a great coach:roll:. You are the one that is closed minded not us!

 

[skeepe]

No, I can see the good and bad points of Jones and what he did. You, however, focus and magnify the bad.

Things were nowhere near the apocalypse you make them out to be.

 

[lockyno1]

No, I can see the good and bad points of Jones and what he did. You, however, focus and magnify the bad.

Things were nowhere near the apocalypse you make them out to be.

Mate when the World Cup is in France and you have a coach winning about 7% of away matches, that is a big concern. You can blame injuries all you like but when you can't beat a crap England side and Wales away then you have no chance winning in France with Eddie as coach. Time for some new ideas, game plans and a new look team with people not playing out of position! It was time to move on and try someone diferent. The thing is with Jones is that he had chances to groom this side a few years ago and didn't. So he tried to do it this year which was about 2 years too late!

 

[skeepe]

How do you "groom" a side for the 2007 world cup 2 years ago (when the 2003 world cup was being played)?

f**k me dead you moron. Eddie was building towards the 2007 world cup, anyone with half a brain could see that.

 

[lockyno1]

How do you "groom" a side for the 2007 world cup 2 years ago (when the 2003 world cup was being played)?

f**k me dead you moron. Eddie was building towards the 2007 world cup, anyone with half a brain could see that.

After the O3 WC, I meant. It is nearly 2006, minus 2 years you get 2004! How was Eddie building towards the 07 WC? I'd love to know that! Giving players 5 minutes at the end of a match is hardly building towards a world cup! Instead he wanted to keep his has-beens in the side!