Would Shane Bond Make the all time ODI World XI?

[Blaze]

http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/36326.html?class=2;template=results;type=bowling

If you look at his stats he has possibly the greatest record of them all. When you consider that his strike rate was well under 30, I reckon he would have to be an automatic selection.

The only thing that could rule him out would be lack of games... but really the guy played well over 50 games.

thoughts?

 

[Blaze]

If it isn't shocking enough that a kiwi could possibly hold the tag as the greatest ODI bowler ever (or at least be in discussions) then what about the fact that he didn't even debut until he was in his late 20's? He was basically just your average domestic bowler who never really had much hype surrounding him, and only got a chance in the NZ team due to a number of injuries to our bowlers at the time. Sure our bowling stocks were ok at the time, but it wasn't as if we had massive depth. Guys like Martin, Franklin and Tuffey all made their debuts before him.

 

[hineyrulz]

He has a great record but geeze i couldn't have him in an all time side, Akram,Mcgrath,Garner,Waqar,Ambrose,Pollock,Lee just of the top of my head. I think you would have to play at least 100 games to be a chance.

 

[TheParraboy]

worse than Sunshine as far as injuries go



;-)

 

[Mr. Fahrenheit]

Agreed with hiney... Garner, Ambrose, Waqar, Wasim, Lee, McGrath... Pollock, Donald/Ntini, Saqlain...

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

there's a favourite scene of mine in the blues brothers ... it's when elwood is tyring to convince jake to go see the penguin ... he replies;

no ... f**kin ... way

 

[TheParraboy]

I would pick Ewan Chatfield over Bond tbh

 

[hineyrulz]

there's a favourite scene of mine in the blues brothers ... it's when elwood is tyring to convince jake to go see the penguin ... he replies;

no ... f**kin ... way

One of the greatest movies of all time

 

[hineyrulz]

I would pick Ewan Chatfield over Bond tbh

What about Willie Watson???? Or Martin Snedden

 

[TheParraboy]

What about Willie Watson???? Or Martin Snedden

What about them? :lol:

 

[hineyrulz]

What about them? :lol:

They we're almost as good as Gavin Larsen..............

 

[African Monkey]

I'd pick Richard De Groen and Murphy Sua over Shane Bond.

 

[8Ball]

125 wickets from 67 games? Not even close.

 

[TheParraboy]

They we're almost as good as Gavin Larsen..............

was jeremy cooney a bowler, batsman or allrounder?

i vaguely remember his doing the lot

 

[hineyrulz]

was jeremy cooney a bowler, batsman or allrounder?

i vaguely remember his doing the lot

And commentating, the boy had it all.........

 

[ozbash]

And commentating, the boy had it all.........

The Mantis was a special.

Bondy would be the World 11's strike bowler..

 

[Blaze]

Agreed with hiney... Garner, Ambrose, Waqar, Wasim, Lee, McGrath... Pollock, Donald/Ntini, Saqlain...

hmm Saqlain is irrelevant as he is a spinner. Ntini isn't even close to any of the other names mentioned as an ODI bowler imo.

Assuming you were picking five bowlers then I would go for the 4 quicks, 1 spinner balance.

Pollock would def be in my side as he provides batting. Him and McGrath are playing for the same spot, and Pollock's batting gets him over the line despite McGrath being the better bowler imo.

My spinner would be Warne as he was a big match bowler, and was always a chance to break partnerships.

Akram would be in there as he was the ultimate swing bowler, and provides something different as a left-armer.

So I have line and length, swing, and spin sorted.

From there I would look for a strike bowler and a bounce bowler.

My bounce bowler would obviously be Ambrose

The strike bowler position is hotly contested I guess. There is only one spot for either Bond, Lee, or Waqar... I reckon it's out of Bond and Lee because Waqar was too inconsistent.

It's probably my kiwi bias, but I reckon Bond gets in. The main reason being that Bond had an unbelievable record against Aus (the best). 11 games 34 wickets at an average of 13.88

(note that I excluded Garner from the discussion because I never saw him bowl... he would obviously be a strong candidate just looking at his record!)

Pollock
Wasim
Warne
Bond
Ambrose

 

[Blaze]

They we're almost as good as Gavin Larsen..............

Larsen was actually a superb ODI bowler.

 

[TheParraboy]

(note that I excluded Garner from the discussion because I never saw him bowl... he would obviously be a strong candidate just looking at his record!)

do you see the irony of what you have said :lol:

 

[Blaze]

do you see the irony of what you have said :lol:

What? I am aware of the fact that he has a fantastic record, but cannot compare him to the other players (who also all have great records) because I never saw him bowl... obviously those of us that saw Garner bowl will probably include him in discussions.