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Y.N.W.A. Thread (Liverpool fans thread) II

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My comments up thread about Mignolet should not be interpreted as saying "yeah he is the best, let's keep him." Yes, there are better keepers out there. However I think central defenders, wingers and strikers are what the squad needs as a higher priority than a new GK.

Why central defenders? Well does anyone think any of our current CBs have the commanding presence/leadership that guys like Sami Hyypia and/or Jamie Carragher displayed? I sure don't. When combined with Mignolet that is why our defence can appear so fragile at times.

Wingers? In my opinion it is the most deficient area in the suqd bar striker. We have what Ibe as about the only specialist winger in the squad. We need players who can create from out wide and cross the ball. It is something we severely lack.

Strikers? AS I feared when we signed him, Benteke has not been what we needed. With the lack of players to cross the ball for him, he is no where near as effective as a goal scorer. Chuck in Sturridge being as solid as sugar glass, we have no one who can score goals. We have some decent creativity in mid-field, but none of our strikes (barring Sturridge) seem to be able to create on their own top score.

It is going to take multiple transfer windows to fix this. I just think that the three areas I've identified above are the ones most in need.
 

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Yeah good question.

He is so bloody frustrating. Made a great save off Mahrez, but then his general positioning was poo as usual.

Manuel Neuer is the master of keepers, and he chills at the half way line because not only is he an amazing keeper, he is also a f**king great sweeper and centre back.
If he wasn't a keeper, he would be a world class centre back.

He has changed the way of the modern keeper and now every f**ker and his dog think that standing outside the box is what you have to do.
Thats why you see so many keepers get beaten by worldys from 50 yards.

De Gea and Hart are about the only keeper that stay in their box.

As for centre backs, you are spot on apollo. We need a commanding RCB. I have said that from the start. Sakho is fearless but is not a leader. Howedes is the one I banged on about to fix our mess. If anyone thinks Matip is going to sort this mess, needs their head checked.
Hopefully he re-signs with Schalke.

Wingers, yes, we need them. Ibe is shit. Don't care what anyone says, he is shit. Not good enough for us.
Coutinho can play left wing if Lallana isn't the AM. If Firmino is the AM, those 2 create havoc.

A right winger with a strong left foot is needed. Get me Kevin Volland yesterday.

We need to find a striker that has the same attributes as Sturridge with less injuries. His form has dipped, but 25mil of my budget would be set aside for Lacazette. 22mil for Volland.
33 mil for Gotze. Thats 80 there well spent.

You can fix a large chunk of this mess in the summer with 200 million but I doubt that will happen.

I do agree with you again though Apollo, if we got a DM who killed people, a LB with a brain and a right back with incredible leadership, Mignolet would be serviceable for another year.
 

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One target in 30 days? No plan b? When the manager states we clearly need to look at adding someone.....

Who takes accountability for this ineptness then genius?

First of all, if you wanna moan about no January signings, then blame it on Klopp, not FSG.

The manager has also clearly stated countless times that he doesn't mind working with what he's got. Ever since he's been here he has constantly evoked inhibitions about buying players in January. If Klopp was desperate for someone then I think they would have got someone.
 

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Cb4, klopp's win ratio compared to Rodgers is irrelevant. Rodgers had a whole preseason with them, and only 8 games.

He gets a free ride because he's only been in the English game for a few months and inherited an average team that are currently not up to speed with what Klopp wants, technically and importantly physically. If you aren't fit enough then it's hard to fulfil what your manager wants.

He has been guilty of persisting with underperforming players, but maybe that's because he wants to give them a good chance to impress him enough with next season in sight. Hopefully though we see the likes of brannigan, stewart, teixeira and Ojo along with smith break into the first team for EPL games, because guys like Lallana and can really do my f**king head in.
 

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First of all, if you wanna moan about no January signings, then blame it on Klopp, not FSG.

The manager has also clearly stated countless times that he doesn't mind working with what he's got. Ever since he's been here he has constantly evoked inhibitions about buying players in January. If Klopp was desperate for someone then I think they would have got someone.

He changed that at the start of January when he said the situation has changed, he gave the club plenty of time to find him a target the club failed. Simple as that
 

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Guess you guys aren't getting Teixeira in the summer either.

It's embarrassing

And Jackson Martinez went for just over 30

How does the club justify now charging the fans more? Planned walk out this weekend against Sunderland. The fans have finally had enough
 

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He changed that at the start of January when he said the situation has changed, he gave the club plenty of time to find him a target the club failed. Simple as that

He said again recently he's pretty happy to work with what he's got. He only wanted to sign someone to mitigate injuries. I don't think that January signings was something he was overly fussed over.
 

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There's a reason why Martinez went to China. He flopped at Atletico. He's not exactly someone we missed out on.
 

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f**k off mignolet and sakho

Well done Liverpool supporters for displaying solidarity and making a stand against fenway, the club has no choice but to respond, it's no conindence that without the fans, there is no result
 

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Clyne is not that good.

Sakho's problem is that he gets injured, comes back really rusty and takes a while to get into full rhythm. Remember when he was arguably our best player earlier in the season and the fans couldn't stop chanting his name? That what he's like when in full rythm. The problem is he gets injured too much and it takes ages before you see the best of him again.

If squaka are to be believed, mignolet has cost us 15 points this season. That is a f**king scandal, it's a farce that this bloke has lasted this long in a Liverpool shirt, let alone fluked a new contract. I've lost count of the number of times that fox sports have written ""another mignonet howler" into their weekly round-up title. 15 points- that is the difference this season between leading the title charge in late February and battling for 5th-6th. Re-signing him is the only thing so far that can make me ask klopp, "what the f**k are you thinking".

As for FSG, they are starting to dig their own grave. This ticket issue is just pure greed. I don't doubt their ambition, but their execution has been poor.
 

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Jonas Hector linked as a left back move. Very defensive. Can play in the midfield but is sensational at tracking back.
 

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How does mignolet keep getting picked for every fixture?

Its the knock on affect mate. The grass isn't greener.

Remember when we tried Brad Jones last year?

Remember when we tried Bogdan this year?

Danny Ward may be up to it, but if he makes an error he will be cursed and slated.

Fact is, as shit as Mignolet is, there literally is no one else better in the club than him.
 
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