Your RD 1 2018 line up

[mxlegend99]

But Moylan missed some tackles in this 8 games at stand off and threw a bad pass against Souths. Burn him!

Yep. Pretty much this.

Somehow we expect to not miss the most tackles in the competition by signing the worst defender in the competition. Our discipline sucks, but signing the most penalised player in the competition will fix that.

I know some teams will intentionally give away penalties to set the ir line. But thats only a good tactic if you're able to defend them. We aren't.

Our attack in the opposition 20 sucks... and thats also going to be fixed by signing a player who has created less tries and linebreaks in the past 2 years than the guy we're losing.

Maloney can probably follow a game plan better than Moylan. But that's useless in a team that has none.

Unlike the Sharks and Roosters, we dont have the defensive players and structure around him to cover his flaws. It wont be his fault. His flaws are already flaws of our team as a whole.

Its expected he will fix all these areas. Yet that shit all starts with the coach. The coach is responsible for pur attacking and defensive structures. For our discipline. For the set plays we run and so on. Maloney will need to go to a level he has never played at before to thrive in this team. Hook is nowhere near the class of Flanagan or Robinson. Our pack is nowhere near as tough as the packs he thrived behind. We dont have the discipline and defence they had.

Those teams also added more than just Maloney. Roosters added Maloney, SBW and Jennings. Sharks added Barba, Ennis and Maloney. He isnt the key ingredient for success. He was just part of the equation.

 

[umina panther]

Yep. Pretty much this.

Somehow we expect to not miss the most tackles in the competition by signing the worst defender in the competition. Our discipline sucks, but signing the most penalised player in the competition will fix that.

I know some teams will intentionally give away penalties to set the ir line. But thats only a good tactic if you're able to defend them. We aren't.

Our attack in the opposition 20 sucks... and thats also going to be fixed by signing a player who has created less tries and linebreaks in the past 2 years than the guy we're losing.

Maloney can probably follow a game plan better than Moylan. But that's useless in a team that has none.

Unlike the Sharks and Roosters, we dont have the defensive players and structure around him to cover his flaws. It wont be his fault. His flaws are already flaws of our team as a whole.

Its expected he will fix all these areas. Yet that shit all starts with the coach. The coach is responsible for pur attacking and defensive structures. For our discipline. For the set plays we run and so on. Maloney will need to go to a level he has never played at before to thrive in this team. Hook is nowhere near the class of Flanagan or Robinson. Our pack is nowhere near as tough as the packs he thrived behind. We dont have the discipline and defence they had.

Those teams also added more than just Maloney. Roosters added Maloney, SBW and Jennings. Sharks added Barba, Ennis and Maloney. He isnt the key ingredient for success. He was just part of the equation.

The best write up of the situation I've seen anywhere online or in the media

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Moylan was dumped upon by a number on this forum when he moved to 6 not because of his performances, but because it just so happened that many of those of us who don't really rate Griffin all that much also wanted Moylan moved to 6. So my theory is those who really, really hate criticism of the club really wanted Moylan to fail at 6 just so they could in some way have a jab at a group of posters that they dislike.

Now, I've stated before that if Moylan was a lazy trainer or a dickhead or fostering discontent, I have no problem letting him go. And I honestly don't care whether the club did or did not lie about Moylan staying - my interest in the club transcends any single player, and always will, and I purposefully don't take any notice of sports-related interviews anyway, as they are mostly just sanitized horseshit.

But there is no doubt here that some on here had no interest in giving Moylan a fair shot at 6 and were way, way overly critical of his play in the last season - again, not because he was shit (he wasn't perfect, of course, but he showed signs of making the role his own and let me repeat he played like 8 games in total there), but because he became associated with a certain group of posters who are viewed as too critical of the club. That's my theory anyway.

I look forward to see how Maloney fits into the side. It's going to be interesting.

 

[Luke Bowden]

The best write up of the situation I've seen anywhere online or in the media

Far from the best.

How does replacing our temperamental inexperienced.No.6 who is yet to really achieve anything.

With the A premiership winning, Current Blues No.6 and member of the Australian Kangaroos squad.

Make us weaker?

If Nothing else, he will help Cleary get to the next level and provide a 2nd Kicking option.

Stop being so negative and except that maybe, just maybe, Gus actually knows a thing or too about rugby league.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Got it in one. Love the lack of Wallace.

Although, Katoa's passing has been absolute shit in the first 20 minutes of this game.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

How does replacing our temperamental inexperienced.No.6 who is yet to really achieve anything.

So I take it you would advocate the loss of all these players then?

Cartwright
Edwards
May
RCG
Cleary
Katoa
Blake
JFH
CHN
Kikau
DWZ

I mean, if being inexperienced and not really achieving anything yet is your criteria.

 

[Luke Bowden]

So I take it you would advocate the loss of all these players then?

Cartwright
Edwards
May
RCG
Cleary
Katoa
Blake
JFH
CHN
Kikau
DWZ

I mean, if being inexperienced and not really achieving anything yet is your criteria.

So that’s a silly thing to say... who are you replacing them with??

And we are talking 1 player with a questionable attitude, not the entire squad.

 

[umina panther]

Far from the best.

How does replacing our temperamental inexperienced.No.6 who is yet to really achieve anything.

With

Gus certainly hasn't shown that for the last 2 years

 

[billypilgrimnz]

And we are talking 1 player with a questionable attitude, not the entire squad.

You are the one who used that as a criteria for allowing one of our players to leave, not me. The fact of the matter is if we want to develop our own players we have to actually allow them to gain experience with us. So using the fact that someone is inexperienced as a reason to let them go is absolutely ridiculous for this club.

 

[Luke Bowden]

You are the one who used that as a criteria for allowing one of our players to leave, not me. The fact of the matter is if we want to develop our own players we have to actually allow them to gain experience with us. So using the fact that someone is inexperienced as a reason to let them go is absolutely ridiculous for this club.

I was asking how it makes us weaker.... He was my favourite player, i didn’t want him to leave.. but I still don’t see how we are worst off.

Read my posts before putting words into my mouth, I never said we should get rid of all our inexperienced players.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Gus certainly hasn't shown that for the last 2 years

In your opinion, I think our team looks pretty damn good for 2018.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Read my posts before putting words into my mouth, I never said we should get rid of all our inexperienced players.

I did read your post and I asked a question.

 

[OldPanther]

In your opinion, I think our team looks pretty damn good for 2018.

If the individual players play to their potential we'll be insanely good. The rest will be up to Griffin.

 

[Luke Bowden]

I did read your post and I asked a question.

So where did I say that we should have been trying to offload Moylan because he is inexperienced?

I didn’t.

My point is, that our team is not weaker by the swap, because Maloney is at this point in his career, better.

I never said we should be trying to off load our players because they are inexperienced.

You clearly didn’t read it.

 

[umina panther]

If the individual players play to their potential we'll be insanely good. The rest will be up to Griffin.

So you're saying we're f**ked then

 

[OldPanther]

So you're saying we're f**ked then

It's a scary thought.

 

[Royce is King]

Honestly UMINA MX BILLY..... Make your simple lifes easier and just F##K OFF.... who spends that much time winging about a team or a coach that are not currently even coaching or playing. You blokes could have a supermodel ask you to come home with her...... and you would Fu##en complain about having to take your pants off.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

So where did I say that we should have been trying to offload Moylan because he is inexperienced?

I didn’t.

My point is, that our team is not weaker by the swap, because Maloney is at this point in his career, better.

I never said we should be trying to off load our players because they are inexperienced.

You clearly didn’t read it.

Sure mate. Here's my point again, in case you would like to reconsider it:

Literally 80% of our squad could be replaced with players with more experience and achievements, thus temporarily "improving" our squad over all. But if we are going to be a club that develops its own players, we need to give them that experience - ditching inexperienced players whenever the chance for a more experienced player comes up is not practical, and thus is a weak reason to support this particular case.

The end.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Honestly UMINA MX BILLY..... Make your simple lifes easier and just F##K OFF.... who spends that much time winging about a team or a coach that are not currently even coaching or playing. You blokes could have a supermodel ask you to come home with her...... and you would Fu##en complain about having to take your pants off.

Royce, let's play a game. How many things do you think there are in the world that I care less about than your opinion?

 

[mxlegend99]

Honestly UMINA MX BILLY..... Make your simple lifes easier and just F##K OFF.... who spends that much time winging about a team or a coach that are not currently even coaching or playing. You blokes could have a supermodel ask you to come home with her...... and you would Fu##en complain about having to take your pants off.

Oh have a f**king sook about the supposed sooks why dont you.

If you don't like it. Block us. You dont have to read it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you dont want to see both sides of the debate block everyone who doesn't want to suck Goulds dick and you can live in paradise on hete.