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Your RD 1 2018 line up

franklin2323

Immortal
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Edwards
Mansour
Blake
Whare
DWZ
Cronk/Moylan
Cleary
Merrin
May/Egan
Tamou
Cartwright
Yeo
Peachey

Egan/May
RCG
Kikau
JFH

Cartwright/Brennan joint coaches
 

billypilgrimnz

First Grade
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No representatives in the Aussie team. We do not have many stars - we have a solid squad that will need good coaching to go to the next level.
 

Whino

Bench
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1.Edwards
2.Mansour
3.Whare
4.Blake
5.DWZ
6.May
7.Cleary
8.Latu
9.Rein
10.Tamou
11.CHN
12.Yeo (c)
13.Merrin

14.RCG
15.Cartwright
16.JFH/Kikau
17.Peach/Katoa

I would consider the above to be my worst case scenario type team. If players move on in the off-season for instance.

If Moylan stays I'd have him at 6, May to NSW Cup and Peach retains a spot on the bench.

If Moylan goes I'd be happy for May/Cleary to have the off season together.

Latu > RCG interchanging gives us a maintained aggressive line speed. This is very important. We lose too much momentum at times and it shows. Latu fixes that.

Cartwright > Merrin gives us the second phase play but with the option of running a wide edge runner.

Merrin can play 60 minutes with a stint at Prop when Cartwright comes on and/or to bench Tamou. Keeps the middle third solid IMO.

Add Kikau/JFH after 30minutes and before the 50 minute mark.

Katoa>Rein or an interchange forward.

My view on our biggest flaw:

If CHN/Yeo can get their timing right on decoy runs then we give Whare/Blake space and become less predicable.This must happen or else Cleary/Moylan/May will run out of options.

This all starts at hooker. Slow service is a killer here. We all noticed Rein/Katoa improving this area. Any delay here will give the opposition line half a second or more to cover the 1-2m to shut down our plays.

Our decoys are predicable because 9/10 they actually get the ball. It is a great ploy if you're conditioning the defence to take the decoy only to let it out the back or inside to Edwards but our timing and lines are inept. Its the simplest play which nets the most results for the top teams.

If you've watched JT into Gavin Cooper over the years youll know that JT hits Cooper constantly. Sometimes wide, sometimes inside. Will repeat for set after set. Then he either goes out the back, Inside to Coote or he throws the dummy and goes. Smart halves create a rhythm which limits decision making time and leads to defensive mistakes.

Cooper Cronk into Proctor (prior to this season) and Cooper into Tohu Harris is another example. Meanwhile Slater is looming for the inside ball.

A team that did this well all year was actually Souths. Reynolds back into Alex Johnson or out the back to Crighton and/or one pass wider to their centres.

Our forwards need to anticipate the run and get into position to receive the ball. If not, run through the damn line and line up again.

I want to see more:

Repeat sets, Linespeed, stability and players being picked in their preferred positions.

Square peg, Round hole:

Cartwright: We need to define his role and quick. I enjoyed him playing as a forward. Using his size and footwork before the line was great for us but we missed his offloads and creativity. That being said he can be frustrating to watch. Creativity is not sideways movements, poor or forced passes and his defensive lapses can be costly. Not so much on the scoreboard but with our momentum.

Peachy: Not a centre but would easily be a super sub. Could fill a number of posiitons on the park. More so than Katoa but as a bench forward he'd be useful in bursts. Katoa offers the most legitimate replacement for hooker if we dont elect to Rein/Wallace over 80 minutes. Choices have to be made.

Having depth is great but having too many good players and the need to fit them in doesn't create a good balance. Pick players in their positions and stick with it. Define their roles and let them settle into it. No more experiments!

Key position to improve our game:

No, Its not the coach. Its hooker. Easily the most important position on the park IMO. Rein has to be it. He can play 80 minutes (see below), passing game is much improved, his timing, workrate and linespeed is very good and his dummy half running is a huge plus.

For those wanting Katoa to start. It would be great but I'd prefer him play off the bench and give Rein a short spell. Wallace has been a great servent but he is just not the choice we need.

Fix hooker and we improve our timing considerably which has a positive effect on our attack overall.

And I am done.....

Well said.
 

Whino

Bench
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No representatives in the Aussie team. We do not have many stars - we have a solid squad that will need good coaching to go to the next level.

Merrin would have been in the Australian squad if he had done his medial again.
Mal rewards loyalty and would have picked him. Not that I am defending his form this year.

I would have had RCG in the squad ahead of Mclean. Though my opinion is biased.
 
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franklin2323

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Merrin would have been in the Australian squad if he had done his medial again.
Mal rewards loyalty and would have picked him. Not that I am defending his form this year.

I would have had RCG in the squad ahead of Mclean. Though my opinion is biased.

Look at the 16 reps. Merrin injured. Moylan played no footy for the last 2 months and Mansour missed half of the season. We get lots of kiwis which helps SOO time
 

Luke Bowden

First Grade
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Merrin would have been in the Australian squad if he had done his medial again.
Mal rewards loyalty and would have picked him. Not that I am defending his form this year.

I would have had RCG in the squad ahead of Mclean. Though my opinion is biased.

I'm also Biased, but I would have have McLean and RCG ahead of Woods.
 

Whino

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Look at the 16 reps. Merrin injured. Moylan played no footy for the last 2 months and Mansour missed half of the season. We get lots of kiwis which helps SOO time

Should be a few kiwis this time around. DWZ, Whare, CHN? Fish,
 

franklin2323

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Should be a few kiwis this time around. DWZ, Whare, CHN? Fish,

CHN is having a shoulder op. Dropping all those passes is bad for you.

DWZ, Whare, JFH NZ
RCG, Kikau Fiji
Mansour Lebanon
Katoa Tonga
Wallace Scotland
Leota Samoa

May, Merrin, Blake and CHN would of played if fit

Good news is Edwards/Moylan and Cleary should get a full off season together to get shit sorted
 

TheEroticGamer

Juniors
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I rate Jake but Tom is only rated so highly because of his brother.

Watch the start of the game against us and see the shuffle he did before he dropped Cleary's kick.Hilarious.
 

betcats

Referee
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Toms a freak imo, would take him over Jake if I could only pick one.

No matter what you think of him his running game is undeniable, add to that he had 17 linebreak assists and 19 try assists for the year, that puts him comfortably ahead of any panther in both those categories.

I know we weren't a great side this year but if he played for us he would of led us for linebreaks, tries, linebreak assists, try assists, metres per game and tied with Dylan and Sauce for tackle breaks.
 
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TheFrog

Coach
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The Myth of Tommy Turbo continues to grow. How he's been picked ahead of Sauce is laughable, also picked over Teddy lol get f**ked
Like Boyd, Turbo can play wing or fullback. That gets you picked in Meninga's Kangaroos. I think RCG was hard done by but he'll no doubt be part of a very strong Bati outfit.

There's little doubt Australia have way too many fullbacks.
 
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Toms a freak imo, would take him over Jake if I could only pick one.

No matter what you think of him his running game is undeniable, add to that he had 17 linebreak assists and 19 try assists for the year, that puts him comfortably ahead of any panther in both those categories.
He'll be a star one day but at this point he passes the ball into the crowd more than a prime Bunji Mashall and Jake is the better player
 

betcats

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He'll be a star one day but at this point he passes the ball into the crowd more than a prime Bunji Mashall and Jake is the better player

He had as many try assists as dce and almost as many linebreak assists, he is a quality ball player. Everyone throws shit passes sometimes, look at Moylan.

Anyway I think he's a star now as well as Jake, Tom could be anything though.
 

kinghippo

Juniors
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Watching the storm win has me wishing we had some of that scary speed ado, vuni and even slater has in our squad.
Waqa certainly has some toe but we have definitely have more strength than speed in the team.
As far as our squad for next year we are once again really blessed with players, there are going to be some decent football players in the reserve grade.

There are some tough decisions to be made in the forwards with rotations and an abundance of talent pushing for spots.
The problem I see is picking a squad and sticking to it. We have so much talent coming through that we are squandering it. Cartwright is a prime example of it, if someone is good enough to get into the team someone else has to miss out. injuries helped hook, he seemed to want to give everyone a bit of first grade so as not to make the tough calls.
What I don’t want to see is a repeat of the kikau and akaoula situation this year with the bench player getting 10 minutes a game, it really hampered their development.
I hope the coach ( whoever that is) has the balls to make players truly earn their spots, JFH, Latu, whare, Kikau may not make the squad but if they earn a spot over higher payed players it should be theirs.
I think Egan should be transitioned to first grade fast because Wallace will only get worse throughout next year, there is enough utility in the team to cover most injuries whilst carrying a 2nd hooker for a while.
There will be a lot of player movement before the start of the season, hopeful we can find the right balance.
 

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