your test selection

[Bazal]

Martyn averages almost 50, Clarke doesn't even average 40 FFS!

Big f**king deal, the fact is both batsmen failed in Bangladesh, yet you only want one out of the side...why? Why does one mans failure mean he doesn;t deserve a shot, but another mans is ignored? That wouldn't be blind bias now would it? :shock:

 

[lockyno1]

Because Martyn has been in the team for a longer f**king period of time. This means he has had more chances to better his average. FFS!

Not nececcarily. If you play less tests it is easier to push that average up IMO.

 

[lockyno1]

Big f**king deal, the fact is both batsmen failed in Bangladesh, yet you only want one out of the side...why?

I'd rather bank on someone who averages almost 50, than someone who barely averages 35 to be honest. Plus this is for a no4 spot, and Clarke frankly sucks at no4!:lol:

 

[Bazal]

I'd rather bank on someone who averages almost 50, than someone who barely averages 35 to be honest. Plus this is for a no4 spot, and Clarke frankly sucks at no4!:lol:

Who said it was for a number 4 spot? This is just two batsmen who failed in Bangladesh, being compared as such. Yet one of them (in your eyes) is worth a Test spot and the other isn't. As yet you have no logical argument, so I guess the claims of blind bias really are on the money now aren't they?

 

[Parra Guru]

Because Martyn has been in the team for a longer f**king period of time. This means he has had more chances to better his average. FFS!

exactly, it's just like Daniel Wagon at Parra. Smithy left him there for long enough to be known as a regular first grader. :lol:

 

[Parra Guru]

btw Locky, do you try to say stupid things just to be different?

 

[lockyno1]

Why would you drop Martyn as he is the best no4 in the country! He doesn't even come into consideration when talking about dropping, although Hodge would be considered. Clarke has not produced at test level for 2 yrs and it is no wonder why his position is far from safe! That is not bias!

 

[lockyno1]

btw Locky, do you try to say stupid things just to be different?

I don't say stupid things at all. It is just that most of this board just wants a bunch of NSW nuffies in the test side!:lol:

 

[Bazal]

Why would you drop Martyn as he is the best no4 in the country! He doesn't even come into consideration when talking about dropping, although Hodge would be considered. Clarke has not produced at test level for 2 yrs and it is no wonder why his position is far from safe! That is not bias!

Why not put Hussey at 4? That is beside the point anyway, both these batsmen failed in Bangladesh, why does one get lambasted for it and the other ignored? You are an idiot, do you know that? You claim it isn't bias, then come up with no discernible argument whatsoever to back up your opinion. It does give me a laugh, though. You campaign for Watson over Clarke, then blast Clarkes average even though he has 16 runs at Test level on Watto, not to mention two big tons and 4 fifties. Don't bring first class averages into this, we are talking Tests and Watson struggles. You blast Bracken as a poor performer, say that his minimal experience at that level has nothing to do with the point of the argument, yet you bend over backwards to explain that Watson is just starting his career. That is bias, whether you are man enough to admit it or not. Given your constant denials, apparently you're a skirt. Have a nice day.

 

[lockyno1]

Difference is that Martyn has proved it over many years, Clarke hasn't. That is a massive difference. Clarke's average is pathetic considering he has had 20 odd tests, to Watson's 3. Clarke still only averages 35 for crying out loud. To me that is not taking the most out of your opportunities. Bracken is a poor performer at test level even though he has played at the GABBA a few times if I am not wrong. His record of 43 is rubbish to be honest! Watson adds the bowling option, thats why I want him in the side!

 

[Parra Guru]

says a bloke who idolises Nathan Hauritz

take him back

 

[Bazal]

Difference is that Martyn has proved it over many years, Clarke hasn't. That is a massive difference. Clarke's average is pathetic considering he has had 20 odd tests, to Watson's 3. Clarke still only averages 35 for crying out loud. To me that is not taking the most out of your opportunities. Bracken is a poor performer at test level even though he has played at the GABBA a few times if I am not wrong. His record of 43 is rubbish to be honest! Watson adds the bowling option, thats why I want him in the side!

You never quit do you?

Bracken-5 matches, 12 wickets, best 4/48 (at the Gabba), avg 42, econ 2.72, sr 92

Watson-3 matches, 2 wickets, best 1/25, avg 61, econ 3.96, sr 93

Tait-2 matches, 5 wickets, best 3/97, avg 42, econ 4.37, sr 58

Johnson-Sweet f**k all as he isn't good enough.

Based on that, Tait is too expensive and erratic to play alongside Lee, Watson has done f**k all, as has Johnson...Bracken is the best option by about three lightyears.

 

[lockyno1]

You never quit do you?

Bracken-5 matches, 12 wickets, best 4/48 (at the Gabba), avg 42, econ 2.72, sr 92

Watson-3 matches, 2 wickets, best 1/25, avg 61, econ 3.96, sr 93

Tait-2 matches, 5 wickets, best 3/97, avg 42, econ 4.37, sr 58

Johnson-Sweet f**k all as he isn't good enough.

Based on that, Tait is too expensive and erratic to play alongside Lee, Watson has done f**k all, as has Johnson...Bracken is the best option by about three lightyears.

How is being expensive got anything to do with test cricket? It is about taking wickets for crying out loud! Tait has a better S/R than Bracken. I'd rather Johnson over Bracken as he bowls 10-15kmph quicker. Bracken is next to useless after the new ball and he won't be taking the new ball in tests. Tait reverses it and swings it at high speed, same as Johnson. I'd rather go for a guy that takes wickets in Tait or Johnson. In fact I'd rather Clark before Bracken!

 

[Parra Guru]

Difference is that Martyn has proved it over many years, Clarke hasn't. That is a massive difference. Clarke's average is pathetic considering he has had 20 odd tests, to Watson's 3. Clarke still only averages 35 for crying out loud. To me that is not taking the most out of your opportunities. Bracken is a poor performer at test level even though he has played at the GABBA a few times if I am not wrong. His record of 43 is rubbish to be honest! Watson adds the bowling option, thats why I want him in the side!

no sh*t, Martyn is 35, Clarke is 25.

And the best of them started off with crap batting averages at test level. Look at Hayden for instance. Took him forever to get going.

But since you only seem to focus on averages, Watson averages 20.25 with the bat and 61.5 with the ball where as Clarke goes along at 36.22 and 9.77 with the ball

So by your theory really that makes Clarke a better bowler than Watson doesn't it???

You can't have it both ways.

 

[lockyno1]

no sh*t, Martyn is 35, Clarke is 25.

And the best of them started off with crap batting averages at test level. Look at Hayden for instance. Took him forever to get going.

But since you only seem to focus on averages, Watson averages 20.25 with the bat and 61.5 with the ball where as Clarke goes along at 36.22 and 9.77 with the ball

So by your theory really that makes Clarke a better bowler than Watson doesn't it???

You can't have it both ways.

Clarke has had 20 odd tests to cement a test spot and really has failed to do so. It is time to try another bloke. Give Watson a chance, or even give Jaques a go if you want a specialist batsman. Clarke has had more than enough chances.

 

[Bazal]

How is being expensive got anything to do with test cricket? It is about taking wickets for crying out loud! Tait has a better S/R than Bracken. I'd rather Johnson over Bracken as he bowls 10-15kmph quicker. Bracken is next to useless after the new ball and he won't be taking the new ball in tests. Tait reverses it and swings it at high speed, same as Johnson. I'd rather go for a guy that takes wickets in Tait or Johnson. In fact I'd rather Clark before Bracken!

You are a deadset fool. Both Tait and Lee are hot and cold, and can quite easily return 0/100+, you can't have them in the same side and win. Johnson has next to no first class experience and similar ODI experience. Clark goes about the same as Bracken, but Bracken has the added advantage of being left handed, which adds variation. He also has the advantage of being able to adjust his bowling to the conditions, and being a miser. Tait provides the batsmen with no pressure, they know he will give them balls they can hit for four. Bracken, like McGrath, builds pressure, which in Test cricket results in wickets....

 

[lockyno1]

Bracken, like McGrath, builds pressure, which in Test cricket results in wickets....

His record suggests otherwise! 2 and a bit wickets a match is next to rubbish! Give Johnson a go if you want a left armer as he is quicker than Bracken so he is more likely to trouble the batsmen!

 

[Bazal]

His record suggests otherwise! 2 and a bit wickets a match is next to rubbish! Give Johnson a go if you want a left armer as he is quicker than Bracken so he is more likely to trouble the batsmen!

Unfortunately there are no stats for wickets taken by the guy at the other end when Bracken has been bowling, but I'm willing to bet they are decent stats. Batsmen struggle to score off Bracken so they try things against the "less risky" bowler and get out, it's not rocket science. :roll: Johnson is in no way ready for Test cricket, when he has 50 first class games under his belt we'll talk...the only thing Johnson will trouble is the scoreboard attendant, his ODI economy rate is terrible....

Edit-12 wickets is the best of that bunch, yet his record suggests otherwise? LMAO!

 

[Spike]

1 Hayden
2 Langer
3 Ponting
4 Martyn
5 Hussey
6 Gilchrist
7 Watson
8 Warne
9 Lee
10 Clark (Was tempted to go with Bracken so that there was a left arm seamer in the mix, but his test average is pretty poor when you look at it.) Johnson is still too green for mine and doesn't really offer anything different to Lee other than a different angle being a south-paw). Tait's form doesn't warrant selection. Perhaps even McGill may get a call up depending on how the pitch looks.
11 McGrath

12 Symonds

 

[Parra Guru]

Clarke has had 20 odd tests to cement a test spot and really has failed to do so. It is time to try another bloke. Give Watson a chance, or even give Jaques a go if you want a specialist batsman. Clarke has had more than enough chances.

I think you really are a hypocrite coming out with that after you defended Martyn for the same type of form.

Martyn played a whole 2 years of boring selfish not to mention crap cricket and kept his spot long enough to redeem himself. I think Clarke at least deserves another opportunity considering the amount of time Martyn got to prove himself.