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Zac Lomax

Kylez3

Juniors
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Lol @ the people wanting Dufty back. As if he wouldn't have have dropped 8 more and let in 4 more tries on his own. Not to mention getting carried back in goal from every second kick return.

Also he has a broken jaw right now, which generally doesn't help your case for selection.
 

Frank Facer

First Grade
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I have never seen him do anything of quality in first grade. Solid?? Can we stop throwing that word around...he is basically always a chance of fumbling a kick, either in the air or on the ground. He was very poor defensively and doesn't have the tools to cut it at the back. For mine he should try to hone his game in CC for the season at least.
Wouldn't you rather we just dropped Aitken and moved Lomax to right centre?
 

True_Believer

Juniors
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FMD people talking about Lomax lack of X factor or attacking ability are you serious?
There isn’t 1 player in our entire team that has that which you demand from the youngest player in the team but has the most upside.
We have an over rated team that presents no dramas in attack against competent teams
We are a team that defends poorly especially key players like Norman, Hunt, Aitken
We are a team that crabs sideways yes and now that Widdop is gone the true fact if how our attack (if you can call it that) is coached is truly evident.
The knockers should shut the f**k up, give the kid a proper chance and stop pinning all our hopes on him.
He isn’t responsible for the shit players we signed that stifle our team and get picked every week.
I’d rather Lomax at 1 than Aitken at 3 or Norman at 6 or Hunt at 7 or Graham at 10.

I am serious.

You are right, we don't have X Factor players in the team currently and I'm not pinning all my hopes on him.

What I am saying, is that in todays game, you need a fullback that is dynamic and has that X Factor if you want the team to be remotely successful. Looking at the position in isolation, that maybe Zac is not the right type of player for that position. Like I said, defensively he seems to be able to do the job. But I think you need something more from a fullback. Happy to have him stay there and give it a good crack, but like BennyV said, Ramsey looks to be a better prospect at this early stage.

There is nothing wrong with giving him a chance in place of Aitken at 3. I think he would be a better prospect in that position.
 

giboz71

First Grade
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I hope Ramsey is our next superstar but what, other than blistering speed did he show in the 9’s to show he is our next fullback? We haven’t seen him in an NRL 13’s game yet where he will be tested a lot more than what he saw at the 9’s.

Not trying to be negative but we need to see a lot more of Ramsey before we declare him our next fullback.
 

saints4ever

First Grade
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Ramsey has all the tools, but so do hundreds of kids at his age and level. He needs 2 things, muscle and time in a fixed position.

I personally would love to see him at fullback and Lomax at centre. But that's a pipedream
 

True_Believer

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I hope Ramsey is our next superstar but what, other than blistering speed did he show in the 9’s to show he is our next fullback? We haven’t seen him in an NRL 13’s game yet where he will be tested a lot more than what he saw at the 9’s.

Not trying to be negative but we need to see a lot more of Ramsey before we declare him our next fullback.

True. I guess we won't really know until he gets a chance to show us what he's got. All I was saying is that the small amount of what I've seen of him, he looks to be a lot more dynamic. The speed certainly helps.
 

BennyV

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I hope Ramsey is our next superstar but what, other than blistering speed did he show in the 9’s to show he is our next fullback? We haven’t seen him in an NRL 13’s game yet where he will be tested a lot more than what he saw at the 9’s.

Not trying to be negative but we need to see a lot more of Ramsey before we declare him our next fullback.
He needs time but he seems to have good instinct and agility. Looking at him in flegg and he had a decent pass. Backs up well which indicates good awareness. Reminds me very much of a young Dugan, so hopefully he doesn’t randomly bulk up and we develop him properly.

Plus, dat hairstyle though!
 

Old Timer

Coach
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I am serious.

You are right, we don't have X Factor players in the team currently and I'm not pinning all my hopes on him.

What I am saying, is that in todays game, you need a fullback that is dynamic and has that X Factor if you want the team to be remotely successful. Looking at the position in isolation, that maybe Zac is not the right type of player for that position. Like I said, defensively he seems to be able to do the job. But I think you need something more from a fullback. Happy to have him stay there and give it a good crack, but like BennyV said, Ramsey looks to be a better prospect at this early stage.

There is nothing wrong with giving him a chance in place of Aitken at 3. I think he would be a better prospect in that position.
His future may we’ll be 3 but let’s find out about 1 first
We had the chance to slot him at 3 and we denied ourselves that opportunity so let’s not piss him off even more
The kid negotiated a deal which looks like it included the no 1 jumper and so far he had had 2 trials with a lot of player movement up front of him and he has made a couple of mistakes not earth shattering or season ending
Let’s discuss this rationally after 6 real games and see where he is at and base our judgement on proper evidence.
 

giboz71

First Grade
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He needs time but he seems to have good instinct and agility. Looking at him in flegg and he had a decent pass. Backs up well which indicates good awareness. Reminds me very much of a young Dugan, so hopefully he doesn’t randomly bulk up and we develop him properly.

Plus, dat hairstyle though!

Haven’t seen him in Flegg so can’t really comment.

I agree, a passing game and instincts to back up is key to being an elite fullback. He did defuse a bomb in the 9’s which was nice to see.

He can certainly make a break and is plenty fast so that will help him. And he’s got the body type to be fullback (once he bulks up a bit).

The ideal scenario will be to have him and Lomax in the same backline period.
 

BennyV

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Haven’t seen him in Flegg so can’t really comment.

I agree, a passing game and instincts to back up is key to being an elite fullback. He did defuse a bomb in the 9’s which was nice to see.

He can certainly make a break and is plenty fast so that will help him. And he’s got the body type to be fullback (once he bulks up a bit).

The ideal scenario will be to have him and Lomax in the same backline period.
Yeah indeed. I can see a future backline in 5 years with Ramsey at the back, Feagai twins on one edge, Lomax and Saab on the other and Sullivan/Wishart in the halves.

But then again, a few years ago I dreamed of a future backline containing Herbert, Lomax, Marsters, Garrick and Dufty, so...
 

Saint_JimmyG

First Grade
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His future may we’ll be 3 but let’s find out about 1 first
We had the chance to slot him at 3 and we denied ourselves that opportunity so let’s not piss him off even more
The kid negotiated a deal which looks like it included the no 1 jumper and so far he had had 2 trials with a lot of player movement up front of him and he has made a couple of mistakes not earth shattering or season ending
Let’s discuss this rationally after 6 real games and see where he is at and base our judgement on proper evidence.

I’m unsure McIdiot will allow Lomax the latitude of six games in order to demonstrate his bona fides.

This could be the hallmarks of Kurt Mann revisited. Personally, I’m not convinced that Zac has the handling reliability for a long term first grade fullback.
 

Crush

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I’m unsure McIdiot will allow Lomax the latitude of six games in order to demonstrate his bona fides.

This could be the hallmarks of Kurt Mann revisited. Personally, I’m not convinced that Zac has the handling reliability for a long term first grade fullback.
Where is Kurt Mann these days anyway? Still coming off the bench or has he locked down a starting position with the Knights?
 

Saint_JimmyG

First Grade
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Where is Kurt Mann these days anyway? Still coming off the bench or has he locked down a starting position with the Knights?

Couldn’t tell you as I don’t take much notice of opposition sides. What I can say, though, is that Mann is a damn sight better fullback, wing, centre and five-eighth alternative than any of the respective Dragons’ incumbents.
 

Como Connection

First Grade
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I hope Ramsey is our next superstar but what, other than blistering speed did he show in the 9’s to show he is our next fullback? We haven’t seen him in an NRL 13’s game yet where he will be tested a lot more than what he saw at the 9’s.

Not trying to be negative but we need to see a lot more of Ramsey before we declare him our next fullback.
Silverman!
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Como Connection

First Grade
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Couldn’t tell you as I don’t take much notice of opposition sides. What I can say, though, is that Mann is a damn sight better fullback, wing, centre and five-eighth alternative than any of the respective Dragons’ incumbents.
Mann's defence and attack in EA's permanent spot when given a go was far far superior.
Wasted opportunity I say.
CC
 

Dragonsamy

Bench
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What I find amusing is the speed in which forum members are dismissing Zac Lomax.

First near full game at fullback.

Of the 23 players who played for our club last night, how many made a meaningful impact?

Lets start in the backs shall we.

Hands up the forum members who think Aitken, Lafai, Norman played better than Lomax.

As for the forwards who played in the second half, who played better?

Last time I checked Rugby League is a team game.

Mitchell and Gagai are representative players, how did they fare under the high ball last night?

Yes, I am just as disappointed as the rest of us that we folded like a cheap suit in the second half.

Lomax is not the problem. I will venture to say he is part of the solution.

Well said.
 

Dragonsamy

Bench
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I think that Lomax is better suited to the centre roll but I'm willing to give him a longer at fullback before I make a full judgement one bad half football does not mean he's useless.
 

Dragonslayer

First Grade
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Yes, I remember the same hype surrounded Dufty, that we see here with young Ramsey. As someone already pointed out he was great in the 9's, but hasn't proved himself against men in a full game at NRL level (and he got injured to boot). Not saying that he isn't our future, but he needs time to develop his body for the rigors of 1st grade football. Lomax, should be given the opportunity to prove himself before any of the "knockers" even open up. He's learning and may well prove himself to be a more than capable custodian. Add to that, if we ever get our backline moves right in attack, he may well prove to be an x-factor given his height.
 

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