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TheRev

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If you're keen to see a bit more of the Manly scrimmage.. watch this from about the 7.37 mark. It's Manly-focused, but their media department is the one putting out this content so we can't complain. We have to settle for the occasional lame instagram post I guess

was a well put together video with all the huddle chats.. thought they went easy on us by not showing the tries scored, I suspect they only had 1 camera and it was centre-field.
 

possm

Coach
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There is a lot of talk about the strength of our squad and the prospects of our team in 2024. I'm inclined to hold off on an opinion until I see whether Flanno has improved the overall fitness of the squad and the defensive structure of the team.

If you have played sport at any level in your life, you know that you can play a lot better if you are fully fit, and in a team sport, the team will have a greater chance of winning if game plans and structures are on the money.

So I will be very interested in how we perform in the season's first three completion games. I would not be surprised to see:
Lomax start at fullback
Sloan 14 on the bench
De Bellin 8 at starting prop
Prop rotation of;
De Belin
Molo
Lawrie
Sele
Eisenhuth at 11
Faitala-Mariner at 13
Bird at center will be short-term - fitness will be an issue. I think Bird will be benched when Sloan comes on with Lomax to right center.
 

since77

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If you're keen to see a bit more of the Manly scrimmage.. watch this from about the 7.37 mark. It's Manly-focused, but their media department is the one putting out this content so we can't complain. We have to settle for the occasional lame instagram post I guess

Why the cheap crack about us apparently having to accept "lame instagram posts" from the Dragons compared to the Manly footage? This was a low key training run. Nothing at all like an actual trial game let alone an NRL game. Who the hell cares? The club gets a lot of things wrong but not giving us a birds eye view of a training scrimmage certainly isn't one of them.... Some people just seem to look for really lame excuses to lay the boot in.........
 

hewi

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I don’t think either the peanut nor Griffin did anything like this.


Mark Taylor was asked to address the Dragons. This is what he told them​

Adrian Proszenko

By Adrian Proszenko

February 10, 2024 — 4.30pm
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When asked to address St George Illawarra’s senior players about leadership, former Australia cricket captain Mark Taylor recalled his first day in the top job.
Having just taken over from Allan Border as skipper in 1994, his first assignment was a Test against Pakistan in Karachi. Seeking to kick off a new era in style, in a country where Australia had not won a Test since 1959, Taylor felt he had covered every contingency.
“On my debut as captain, I spent all of the off-season thinking about all the ways I could make the side better,” Taylor recalls
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“I met with the bowlers, then separately with the batsmen. Then I had a couple of days with Ian Healy, who was vice-captain at the time, and we discussed various things. I thought of just about everything.”

Or so it seemed. It only became evident afterwards that the opener was so preoccupied with everyone else’s performance, that he neglected his own. In the opening innings, he spooned one back to Wasim Akram.
Duck.
In the second dig, “Tubby” nicked a Waqar Younis delivery he should have left alone.
Another duck.
It marked the first time in Test history that a player had made a pair on his captaincy debut. Pakistan went on to win a thrilling Test by one wicket.


“I ticked every box except just going out there getting some runs myself,” Taylor laments.
It’s been a difficult few seasons for Ben Hunt and the Dragons.

It’s been a difficult few seasons for Ben Hunt and the Dragons.CREDIT: GETTY
“I learnt the hard way, from that point of view. There is a happy medium to be found there.”
This was one of his key messages to the Dragons’ leadership group, which includes captain Ben Hunt. At the behest of new coach Shane Flanagan, Taylor spoke about his experiences as Australian captain, a post considered by some to be the second most important in the land, only behind that of the prime minister.
Taylor recovered from that inauspicious start: he soon found the middle of the bat, earned praise for his captaincy on the field and became a diplomat off it.

Some critics have argued that, during a tough day in the field, the decision to throw the ball to Shane Warne or Glenn McGrath wasn’t a difficult one, but the job was not without its challenges. Taylor’s ability to manage a side full of big personalities was one of his enduring traits.
“It’s about having adult conversations with people; that’s something that leaders need to do all the time,” Taylor says.
Mark Taylor adjusts his field during the tour of Pakistan in 1994, his first as captain.

Mark Taylor adjusts his field during the tour of Pakistan in 1994, his first as captain.CREDIT: GETTY
“They are not always the easiest things to do. Walking up to your friend or colleague or whatever you want to call them, you may see something they can improve on and they might tell you things you can improve on as well.
“Like everything, it was harder thinking about it than doing it. Once you chat to those people, you find they are thinking very similar things to you. More often than not, they want what’s best for the team. The bottom line is, if the team is playing well and you’re winning, everyone is a winner.

“That’s the mentality I tried to get across as a cricket captain. I found the players I had around at the time I took over the Australian cricket team – we had the Waugh boys [Steve and Mark], Ian Healy, David Boon was still playing, McGrath, Warne – they are leaders, no doubt about it.
“They had characteristics that could have made them an Australian captain – I wasn’t the only person who was a potential leader of the team.
Mark Taylor was a guest at the Dragons Way Breakfast.

Mark Taylor was a guest at the Dragons Way Breakfast.CREDIT: DRAGONS MEDIA
“All I had to tell the lads at the time was that I was the lucky one who got the job. I need your help.
“You have to be honest, but then be prepared to cop a bit of criticism back. If you have that open line of communication, it goes a long way towards forging a very good team.”

That is the lofty ambition of the Dragons. Bookmakers have installed them as wooden spoon favourites after finishing last season above only the Wests Tigers. Having attended a Dragons Way Breakfast late last year, and spoken to the players after witnessing assistant coach Dean Young put them through a defensive session, Taylor believes the club is on the way up.
“I look at a lot of Dragons games last year and I thought they were a long way from being bad,” he says.
“A lot of times they were pretty good, but just didn’t finish off games. There was a five- or six-week span where they won only one game, but lost the other four or five by less than six points.
“That tells me they have enough talent there, it’s just about finding that belief in themselves and in the team to get over the line on three or four of those occasions.
“All of a sudden a not-so-good season turns into a pretty good one. I went down to training to speak to the leadership group about my experiences of captaining Australia, the things you have to do as a captain, playing well individually. And also finding ways to help out your teammates along the way.

“I spent about 45 minutes with the guys and really enjoyed it. I think they did, they threw a number of questions at me, which was really good and suggests to me they were interested.”
The issue of leadership is a delicate one at the Dragons. Hunt is the skipper, but last year he asked for an early release from his contract so he could return to Queensland to live. The Dragons knocked him back.
Is he the right man to lead the Red V?
“I don’t want to go down the path of who the right guy is because I don’t know rugby league well enough,” Taylor says.

“That’s something for Flanno. There’s no doubt I think Ben Hunt can get better as a leader because there’s no doubt he’s a very good player.
“If you look at the Australian cricket side, there was Allan Border, then me, then Steve Waugh, then Ricky Ponting. All four of us are very different people, but we all want the same thing. We all had our own style. You mould your leadership style to the sort of person you are.
“There’s no doubt that Benny Hunt, leading by example like he does week in and week out, has been the Dragons’ best player for the past three or four years.
“He ticks that box straight away. With leadership and someone like Shane Flanagan, who I’ve only got to know over the last couple of months, I think that association will only make him a more rounded person and a better leader going forward
 

BLM01

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Why the cheap crack about us apparently having to accept "lame instagram posts" from the Dragons compared to the Manly footage? This was a low key training run. Nothing at all like an actual trial game let alone an NRL game. Who the hell cares? The club gets a lot of things wrong but not giving us a birds eye view of a training scrimmage certainly isn't one of them.... Some people just seem to look for really lame excuses to lay the boot in.........
The problem is this is one of many instances across many clubs that provide behind the scenes media stuff of what the team, as a team are doing / saying or how their training in pre-season, boot camps, just mini reality TV stuff.
It just draws the members or supporters into the culture of the joint. Manly have done a few behind the scenes stuff this year and last many teams have good content. The Dogs had a 4 part series last year each video 15 mins etc

In most pre-seasons all we get are photos, one on one short interviews with juniors or new players, one interview with the coach. The senior player content is all about non football games or acting that they get up to.
Our media engagement has been below par for many years now
 

since77

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The problem is this is one of many instances across many clubs that provide behind the scenes media stuff of what the team, as a team are doing / saying or how their training in pre-season, boot camps, just mini reality TV stuff.
It just draws the members or supporters into the culture of the joint. Manly have done a few behind the scenes stuff this year and last many teams have good content. The Dogs had a 4 part series last year each video 15 mins etc

In most pre-seasons all we get are photos, one on one short interviews with juniors or new players, one interview with the coach. The senior player content is all about non football games or acting that they get up to.
Our media engagement has been below par for many years now
agreed they can of course improve on the media front but it wasn't worth making a crack about, particularly in regards to a training run. And lets face it holding Manly and the Dogs as shining examples of who we'd want to emulate isn't saying much is it?
In 2024 all I care about is improvement on the field.
 

BLM01

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agreed they can of course improve on the media front but it wasn't worth making a crack about, particularly in regards to a training run. And lets face it holding Manly and the Dogs as shining examples of who we'd want to emulate isn't saying much is it?
In 2024 all I care about is improvement on the field.
All teams do it. Not just Manly & Dogs. Penrith just about about to release a documentary. Isolated case id agree with you but @Victoire rant is a build up of frustration over many years for a large number of supporters / members
 

Dragon David

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Most of the team would have been asleep when he addressed them
Hook lacked inspiration and enthusiasm and the ability to gee up the troops.

His appointment was due to a lack of interest from any decent coaches at the time and when beggars can't be choosers, he got the job.

I cannot see him ever again being the head coach of another club particularly in the NRL.
 

56to66

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Most of the team would have been asleep when he addressed them
Pauline is 1000% correct, housing crisis, foreign investment (60000 unoccupied housing in Sydney), electricity sold to the biggest bidder( non working class plodder, (paying overs for the avg pleb)). Hey lets fix the environment, buy Electric Vehicles(EV over priced $70000 plus, over rated), lithium batteries, up in a big bomb fire( lets burn everything in sight), in 10 years time, thanks to every EV buyer, expect to pay $2000 every 3 months in your electricity bill to watch Saints gets smashed by the next biggest franchise, coming out of John Rebbos vision of superleagues best of crap.
 
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56to66

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But the voice was apparently going to solve all our problems, By the way to get the Cheapest ticket to watch the SF49rs vs the Kansis City Chiefs, will be at a bargain price of nearly $8000 plus a ticket, and if you want close to the action around kick off territory, expect to pay $300,000 a ticket. Dream big guys or may live in a park bench at $300 a night!
 
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Como Connection

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Pauline is 1000% correct, housing crisis, foreign investment (60000 unoccupied housing in Sydney), electricity sold to the biggest bidder( non working class plodder, (paying overs for the avg pleb)). Hey lets fix the environment, buy Electric Vehicles(EV over priced $70000 plus, over rated), lithium batteries, up in a big bomb fire( lets burn everything in sight), in 10 years time, thanks to every EV buyer, expect to pay $2000 every 3 months in your electricity bill to watch Saints gets smashed by the next biggest franchise, coming out of John Rebbos vision of superleagues best of crap.
You need to stop watching Sky news.
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