NSW going forward

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  1. TheFrog

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    Committing a professional foul, giving away two points and leaving your team short with the scores level midway through the second half does not look all that good on the resume.
     
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  2. Clifferd

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    Why does this feel like the same argument between Tigers and panthers fans years ago about if Tedesco or Moylan should play 1 for NSW
     
  3. TheFrog

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    I'm not putting forward Cleary by any means, especially this year. I just don't think Moses is suddenly the man. Form is a bit too patchy, although that never did Teddy any harm it must be said.

    If I were to put forward any Panther, it would be Campbell-Gillard. He's approaching the best front rower in the game.
     
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  4. Clifferd

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    Halfback is probably the most hotly contested position for NSW this year imo

    I really feel Fitler is different and will go for youth, so it does boil down to Moses/Cleary and who has the best form leading into origin I reckon
     
  5. mxlegend99

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    Nathan Cleary has better composure for Origin. He made his NRL debut mid 2016 and has played some big games since then and never looked out of place. He's not as flashy. But he's reliable and tough.

    Moses can look great and like an idiot within 2 minutes of each other in the same game. He would actually probably be a good halves partner to Cleary if it didnt mean 2rookies. Some NRL stats:

    Cleary
    42 games / 25 wins (59.6%)
    14 tries (1 try every 3 games)
    151 / 174 goals (86.78%)
    4 finals matches for 2 wins (50%)

    Moses
    84 games / 34 wins (40.5%)
    14 tries (1 try every 6 games)
    110 / 151 goals (72.85%)
    2 finals matches for 0 wins

    Both have played at clubs who are historically basket cases. Although Panthers have been incredibly consistent since Cleary came in. Despite having partnered Jamie Soward, Bryce Cartwright, Te Maire-Martin, Matt Moylan, Tyrone May and now James Maloney in the halved. He has won games with all of them except Soward.

    Nathan Cleary is the longterm 7. I think Moses could be the longterm 6. But they cant do it in the same year

    I think 2018 Maloney and Cleary (club combination to ease Cleary in)
    2019 Moses and Cleary.

    But hey injuries can happen. Form can change and players can be disasters no matter how well you think they could be. Plus as a Panthers fan I am definitely biased toward Nathan.
     
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  6. DOGS AND EELS!!!

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    Good player but miles behind Klemmer.
     
  7. DOGS AND EELS!!!

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    1. James Tedesco
    6. Mitchell Moses
    7. Nathan Cleary
    14. Matt Moylan
     
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  8. Clifferd

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    The thing that sets the two apart imo is that Moses’s best game blows Cleary out of the water. Difference is though, he’s not very consistent

    For example he tore your mob a new asshole on the weekend then for whatever reason went into his shell, got sin binned and never recovered. I’ve also seen him win games on his own

    Cleary is as cool as they come under pressure as evident on the weekend.

    With that all being said I agree with what you said, blood Cleary this year then Moses the following. I don’t think they can both be done at the same time
     
  9. The Friz

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    This is a joke, right?
     
  10. Clifferd

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    Moylan has really regressed imo. Unless he can show something before origin, I wouldn’t even consider him and just roll with 4 forwards on the bench. Jack bird should be centre
     
  11. super_coach

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    Cleary is way in front of Moses. Every game you know what your going to get from Cleary, Moses on the other hand is a down hill skier, who goes missing when things get tuff.

    Moses would be a champion at Rugby sevens, but SOO is the last place you would want him
     
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  12. DOGS AND EELS!!!

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    Oh no this is a team for the future, maybe in a year or two, no way would I be running out with both Cleary and Moses this year at the same time.
     
  13. DOGS AND EELS!!!

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    2nd best forward in the game only behind Taumalolo. RCG is a good player, Australian and Origin player for sure but Klemmer is on a different level.
     
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    Klemmer really shone in the 52-6 victory for QLD a few years back.
     
  15. The Friz

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    It's time to stop experimenting with your meds. Just take the prescribed dosage matey.
     
  16. DOGS AND EELS!!!

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    Yeah cause 1 guy is meant to carry the entire team right? Especially when he came on when the game was already lost and the forward pack was destroyed.
     
  17. DOGS AND EELS!!!

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    So tell me your opinion of him
     
  18. The Friz

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    Wouldn't be in my top 10.
    Behind at least:
    Taumololo
    Bromwich
    S Burgess
    Vaughan
    Scott
    Frizzell
    Trbojevic
    Tapau
    De Belin
    Brown
    Plus others.
     
  19. DOGS AND EELS!!!

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    Yeah, I think you should put down the crack pipe.
     
  20. The Friz

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    Take your blinker off and don't let club loyalty blind your thoughts.
    Klemmer is straight up and down, pretty average forward.
    He's tough and runs hard but offers no footwork or offload.
     

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