Whos in the 2019 15 man ashes squad? OFFICIAL SQUAD Announced 26/7

[herbert henry1908]

Call me crazy, and I understand where people are coming from because he bowled like a plodestrian against India in Australia, but they're not dropping Starc particularly given that he's just taken a record 27 wickets in the world cup in English conditions and he took 10 wickets in his last test.

And that’s why we often struggle in England. We don’t make the tough choices.

Starc is a very different red ball bowler than white, he’s worse again on soft wickets.

 

[lockyno1]

Squad has been sort of picked

MMarsh apparently left out, same with Burns and Kurtis Patterson

Bancroft, Wade and Laubasghne got the 3 reserve batting positions

Alex Carey as expected going as the reserve keeper. Did think they would take a reserve. Neither Wade or Bancroft are test quality keepers.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Squad has been sort of picked

MMarsh apparently left out, same with Burns and Kurtis Patterson

Bancroft, Wade and Laubasghne got the 3 reserve batting positions

Alex Carey as expected going as the reserve keeper. Did think they would take a reserve. Neither Wade or Bancroft are test quality keepers.

There can’t be 3 reserve batting positions, they’re not picking 9 batsmen unless Carey isn’t there.

 

[Twizzle]

Squad has been sort of picked

MMarsh apparently left out, same with Burns and Kurtis Patterson

Bancroft, Wade and Laubasghne got the 3 reserve batting positions

Alex Carey as expected going as the reserve keeper. Did think they would take a reserve. Neither Wade or Bancroft are test quality keepers.

3 reserve batting spots ?

so that would be 11th, 12th and 13th man

 

[lockyno1]

3 reserve batting spots ?

so that would be 11th, 12th and 13th man

One is probably cover for Khawaja

Technically Laubashgne is an AR too

 

[typicalfan]

I couldn't leave Starc out of the squad. Even when he is bleeding runs he can buy the odd wicket here and there purely based on his speed. I don't think we can win the ashes without him.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I couldn't leave Starc out of the squad. Even when he is bleeding runs he can buy the odd wicket here and there purely based on his speed. I don't think we can win the ashes without him.

He’ll be in the squad, the question is more surrounding which tests he plays.

 

[herbert henry1908]

One is probably cover for Khawaja

Technically Laubashgne is an AR too

if what you’re saying is correct they’ve either extended the squad to 18 or are only taking one spinner.

 

[lockyno1]

if what you’re saying is correct they’ve either extended the squad to 18 or are only taking one spinner.

One spinner

Labausghne is the second spinner. Head can bowl offies too, Smith isn’t the worst.

 

[lockyno1]

I couldn't leave Starc out of the squad. Even when he is bleeding runs he can buy the odd wicket here and there purely based on his speed. I don't think we can win the ashes without him.

Pattinson does the same except he doesn’t bowl 5 trash balls in 6!

 

[herbert henry1908]

One spinner

Labausghne is the second spinner. Head can bowl offies too, Smith isn’t the worst.

I don’t rate Holland, but Labuschagne isn’t good enough to be the front line spinner. If Lyon gets injured the balance will be poor, so with the overrate. Need to play 4 fast bowlers.

Pity O’Keefe has been cast aside. He’s easily the second best spinner in Australia.

 

[lockyno1]

I don’t rate Holland, but Labuschagne isn’t good enough to be the front line spinner. If Lyon gets injured the balance will be poor, so with the overrate. Need to play 4 fast bowlers.

Pity O’Keefe has been cast aside. He’s easily the second best spinner in Australia.

We don’t have a test quality second spinner period. Holland is absolute rubbish.

 

[herbert henry1908]

 

[herbert henry1908]

We don’t have a test quality second spinner period. Holland is absolute rubbish.

O’Keefe.

 

[lockyno1]

O’Keefe.

Point stands. He’s not going to run through England over there

 

[herbert henry1908]

Point stands. He’s not going to run through England over there

Maybe not run through, but he’s a test quality spinner. You don’t take 200 Sheffield shield wickets at 25 on Australian decks without being so.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

So....you don't want Starc in the team but you want O'keefe in the squad.??

Sounds reasonable.

 

[herbert henry1908]

So....you don't want Starc in the team but you want O'keefe in the squad.??

Sounds reasonable.

There’s no connection between the two. I wouldn’t play O’Keefe unless Lyon got injured. (Any second spinner)

Also I want Starc in the team if the wickets suit.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

There’s no connection between the two. I wouldn’t play O’Keefe unless Lyon got injured. (Any second spinner)

Also I want Starc in the team if the wickets suit.

There is a connection because if you don't want Starc in the first XI it means you regard him as a squad player and so on the same level as O'keefe.

O'keefe is nowhere near good enough these days to be anywhere near an Australian squad.

 

[herbert henry1908]

There is a connection because if you don't want Starc in the first XI it means you regard him as a squad player and so on the same level as O'keefe.

O'keefe is nowhere near good enough these days to be anywhere near an Australian squad.

Squad players aren’t all on the same level. They all have a different role to play, in no way can O’Keefe be considered on the same level as Starc.

And as I’ve said, Starc would be in my first XI for some of the matches. A second spinner wouldn’t play at all unless Lyon got injured.

O’Keefe took 20 wickets in 7 games @ 28 this past season. Nothing amazing, but the best average in shield cricket among spinners.