Alex McKinnon possibly Quadriplegic - Mclean guilty of dangerous throw - 7 weeks

[Walt Flanigan]

Sadly it won't be the last time the DT try and exploit this tragedy for their own gain.

 

[nick87]

Melbourne are cheating scum that is for sure, but it was an accident.

Yep. It's pretty rich to hear the knights complain about it, yet they engage in it, as much, if not more than most. Jeremy Smith is top 3-4 in the league for this crap.

Shit or get off the pot.
Bennett is in a position to do something about it, and chooses not to because he wants to win, that's on him as much as it's on Bellemy or any other coach.

IMO, the statement was a pretty classless. They don't need to try and go to war over this accident.

 

[macavity]

Yep. It's pretty rich to hear the knights complain about it, yet they engage in it, as much, if not more than most. Jeremy Smith is top 3-4 in the league for this crap.

Shit or get off the pot.
Bennett is in a position to do something about it, and chooses not to because he wants to win, that's on him as much as it's on Bellemy or any other coach.

IMO, the statement was a pretty classless. They don't need to try and go to war over this accident.

Missed the point completely. And probably intentionally.

This event might not have been intentional, but it was avoidable.

Melbourne introduced these gang wrestling tactics. They are so successful that they have changed the way defence is played. Any team not employing them will be left behind.

And I wonder where Jezza learned his craft.

 

[Captain Apollo]

If you ban 3 man tackles then stripping the ball should be allowed by the 2 defenders

Bill Harrigan said overnight that banning 3 man tackles would not necessarily stop a similar incident occurring as to what happened to Alex McKinnon. There have been plenty of lifting tackles involving 1 or 2 tacklers.

As to the Knights statement, they are entitled to make it. However in the circumstances, whether you agree with it or not, the timing of it is just adding more fuel to the fire in this situation and does not help anyone in my opinion at all.

 

[betcats]

Missed the point completely. And probably intentionally.

This event might not have been intentional, but it was avoidable.

Melbourne introduced these gang wrestling tactics. They are so successful that they have changed the way defence is played. Any team not employing them will be left behind.

And I wonder where Jezza learned his craft.

I agree that Melbourne introduced all this wrestling/grappling shit into the game. Grapple tackles. Crushers, Chicken wings etc....Bellamy is going to leave a lovely legacy, salary cap cheating and these new/illegal tackles and techniques. Despite all that it is still an accident on Jordans part.

 

[Noname36]

Bill Harrigan said overnight that banning 3 man tackles would not necessarily stop a similar incident occurring as to what happened to Alex McKinnon. There have been plenty of lifting tackles involving 1 or 2 tacklers.

As to the Knights statement, they are entitled to make it. However in the circumstances, whether you agree with it or not, the timing of it is just adding more fuel to the fire in this situation and does not help anyone in my opinion at all.

When were they supposed to release it? A statement from the Knights on it was inevitable. Of the plethora of people they want the thoughts of re the McLean verdict the Knights were always going to be up the top of that list.

 

[Captain Apollo]

When were they supposed to release it? A statement from the Knights on it was inevitable. Of the plethora of people they want the thoughts of re the McLean verdict the Knights were always going to be up the top of that list.

So the day after the judiciary hearing was a good time was it? Making it a public statement via media release is the best way to communicate with the NRL is it? Does it accomplish anything other than keep the heat in the matter?

 

[Noname36]

I agree that Melbourne introduced all this wrestling/grappling shit into the game. Grapple tackles. Crushers, Chicken wings etc....Bellamy is going to leave a lovely legacy, salary cap cheating and these new/illegal tackles and techniques. Despite all that it is still an accident on Jordans part.

I don't think anyone (including the Knights in their statement) are blaming McLean - hence their call regarding the two others involved in the tackle. I think more hostility is going towards the circumstances (I.e. Melbourne's success using their tactics) that have allowed tackles that have broken a kid's neck to not only be accepted, but encouraged as a way to win the ruck and get an advantage in the game.

 

[Danish]

As to the Knights statement, they are entitled to make it. However in the circumstances, whether you agree with it or not, the timing of it is just adding more fuel to the fire in this situation and does not help anyone in my opinion at all.

Perhaps someone in Mckinnon's family was upset over the ruling and the knights released this statement as a means of support for them?

Newcastle aren't in this for the good of the code, they are only interested in the well being of their own player and his family. I would not expect them to talk down the incident at all.

 

[betcats]

So the day after the judiciary hearing was a good time was it? Making it a public statement via media release is the best way to communicate with the NRL is it? Does it accomplish anything other than keep the heat in the matter?

You know atleast part of the statement was a direct reponse to what happened wednesday night? Like when is a better time to issue that reponse?

 

[Noname36]

So the day after the judiciary hearing was a good time was it? Making it a public statement via media release is the best way to communicate with the NRL is it? Does it accomplish anything other than keep the heat in the matter?

Do you really think it would be more appropriate after the dust has settled? The heat is already on the matter. Better to do it now rather than drag it up later when they've already been asked for the thoughts to death and the issue has been put to bed.

Bottom line, no time is ever going to be "appropriate". This will be a lifelong challenge for Alex and his club are doing it's best to defend him and bring attention to something that could potentially (god forbid) happen to another player in the future. What did you want the Knights to do? Sit back while it's being said that Alex has done this to himself? Gimme a break.

 

[Captain Apollo]

I would not expect the Knights to talk it down either. I just think their timing is ill advised and that some of what was raised would have better off being privately communicated to the NRL than via press release.

 

[Captain Apollo]

What did you want the Knights to do? Sit back while it's being said that Alex has done this to himself? Gimme a break.

Really? I didn't realise that a person's defence, whether it is a load of b/s or not needs to be picked apart AFTER the event by one of the aggrieved parties. Does it achieve anything? No. Does it avoid repeatrs of what happened? No. Has it achieved anything positive at all?

Further, do you really think any person thinks Alex did it to himself re: his injury? I don't so don't put words in my mouth or impute things which I have not said thank you.

 

[betcats]

The Storm seem to think its Alex's fault.

Also they used basically the exact same defense at the judiciary as Cam Smith used in the field 5 minutes after it happened, that lawyer really earned his pay.

 

[Noname36]

Really? I didn't realise that a person's defence, whether it is a load of b/s or not needs to be picked apart AFTER the event by one of the aggrieved parties. Does it achieve anything? No. Does it avoid repeatrs of what happened? No. Has it achieved anything positive at all?

Further, do you really think any person thinks Alex did it to himself re: his injury? I don't so don't put words in my mouth or impute things which I have not said thank you.

I never said you thought Alex did it to himself. Melbourne do though (or at least that's their defence) and that's what's been flying around in the media recently regarding McLean's trial. If those claims are flying around publicly then of course the Knights are going to defend McKinnon publicly.

 

[lockyno1]

I am happy he is taking it to the courts, all parties need to be held legally responsible. There will be a zillion lawyers that will have their easiest pay day of their career!

 

[Walt Flanigan]

I am happy he is taking it to the courts, all parties need to be held legally responsible. There will be a zillion lawyers that will have their easiest pay day of their career!

Yeah it will be fantastic for Rugby League.....

 

[lockyno1]

Yeah it will be fantastic for Rugby League.....

Should have thought about that before having lifting tackles. If the rules are changed as a result to protect players, it will hurt the NRL now, but it will be better long term. Furthermore why on earth SHOULDN'T he sue the game/Melbourne, etc? It is his natural right to do so, the tackle has robbed him of lets be conservative and say $2 million (200K per year for 10 years)

 

[El Diablo]

I am happy he is taking it to the courts, all parties need to be held legally responsible. There will be a zillion lawyers that will have their easiest pay day of their career!

nobody is going to the courts atm

 

[lockyno1]

nobody is going to the courts atm

Give it time and so he should, he is out of a steady income because of what those players did.