Lafai

[The Nick]

None of that is true. You think just because you say it, it's the truth, that seems to be your go. Our worst defender last year was Mata'utia - look at the stats. Also strike rate, Nabuli - 7 tries from 13 games, Mata'utia 8 from 21. Nabuli was also much better at racing in and cutting off the attack ( as he was coached to do ) than PM who can make some terrible reads in defence - watch his last 3 games.
You want to promote PM to wing even though he's slower than Nabuli was, rarely breaks a tackle and is our worst defender.

Again, you can't be serious?

 

[kit66]

Again, you can't be serious?

Prove me wrong. Put up some stats or heaven forbid an argument of more than a throw away one liner.

 

[to_ddeath]

^ We know what your go is. Talk up Nabuli beyond his average ability, talk down PM below his ability.


T.

 

[giboz71]

None of that is true. You think just because you say it, it's the truth, that seems to be your go. Our worst defender last year was Mata'utia - look at the stats. Also strike rate, Nabuli - 7 tries from 13 games, Mata'utia 8 from 21. Nabuli was also much better at racing in and cutting off the attack ( as he was coached to do ) than PM who can make some terrible reads in defence - watch his last 3 games.
You want to promote PM to wing even though he's slower than Nabuli was, rarely breaks a tackle and is our worst defender.

Nabuli was a rubbish signing unfortunately. I think we hoped we could turn him into a Radrara or Korobiete type player but he never came close, possibly the slowest Fijian winger ever to play NRL. And he was signed to replace Bmoz????

If you're gonna get by without NRL experience, you need exceptional speed or athleticism and he had neither. Wouldn't surprise if he was playing injured, he may go ok for the Reds if he's healthy.

Wing was such a weakness last year - Farrell, Nabuli, a busted Nighty and appearances by Nathan Green and Justin Hunt. Quite possibly the slowest wing group in comp. Was tiring watching opposition wingers leaving ours in the dust.

Hopefully KFFL and Milne can make up for this.

 

[Miller was a legend]

Why would you compare a winger to a centre in terms of stats anyway?

Nabuli was poo unfortunately. Lafai has significant upside to Farrell who with his back injury never really had the impact the club hoped for (unfortunate and not Farrell's fault).

If the Sharks replaced Lutes with Lafai, I would have seen it as a major upgrade.

 

[kit66]

^ We know what your go is. Talk up Nabuli beyond his average ability, talk down PM below his ability.


T.

I was defending Nabuli against claims he did nothing for us when he actually did alright. The stats back me up.
Some people get all emotional over their favourite players. PM's a nice guy and did his best but the truth is his defence is suspect and he lacks speed - which is a worry especially if you're going to play him on the wing ( I notice you're all more than happy to bump him from centre to accommodate Lafai ) and especially given we have other wing options that do have a bit of speed.
I'll be a lot more disappointed about seeing Aitken dropped than I would PM.

 

[kit66]

Why would you compare a winger to a centre in terms of stats anyway?

Nabuli was poo unfortunately. Lafai has significant upside to Farrell who with his back injury never really had the impact the club hoped for (unfortunate and not Farrell's fault).

If the Sharks replaced Lutes with Lafai, I would have seen it as a major upgrade.

That's really not fair on the kid is it ?
His first year in NRL first grade ( only his third year playing League ) playing in a side with the worst attack in the league, he scores 7 tries from 13 games ( plus a couple disallowed and some close calls ) plus a couple of try assists, pulls off some great try savers and does basically what's asked of him and cops nothing but sh*t from you lot. He didn't set the world alight but he did no worse than a lot of our more experienced players. But you know, don't let reality stand in the way of a good story.

 

[redvscotty]

Far out, we've got Mitch's mum on the other forum and Nabuli's best mate on this one.

Offseason is great!

 

[The Nick]

Prove me wrong. Put up some stats or heaven forbid an argument of more than a throw away one liner.

Mate your comments are so wide of the mark I honestly don't even know where to begin.

 

[kit66]

Far out, we've got Mitch's mum on the other forum and Nabuli's best mate on this one.

Offseason is great!

Who's picking on Mitch ? Let me at 'em. Best hooker south of Rockdale.

 

[grandorient]

I don't think Peter M is going to be fast enough on the wing..

GO

 

[BennyV]

Mate your comments are so wide of the mark I honestly don't even know where to begin.

Lol, I'm better off quoting you than picking out the rubbish in his comments.

Comparing stats for a winger with a centre is plain stupid! Let alone comparing try scoring ability for a winger with that of his inside man!

People want PM on the wing because, despite being a betger centre, he has the right attributes for a winger. He is agile, strong, solid under the high ball, makes plenty of mentres when playing in that position, can score a try under pressure, and is quick. Dont know who the guys saying he is slow are watching, because in the first 3/4 of the season he showed plenty of pace - distinct memories of him schooling Dylan Walker and standing up Ferguson from left centre.
In addition, he has the advantage of being able to swap with Lafai during the set. He did this a few times when he played outside Aitken during the season, worled a treat (one of these led to the aforementioned schooling of Walker).

But I can see where kit is coming from - he obviously hasnt watched much rugby league and just remembers the tall fijian guy. That or he mistook Nabuli for Radradra. But the evidence is strong, and will be moreso throughout this year.

 

[to_ddeath]

Nabuli will be a distant memory by halfway through next season
..for all bar kit66...

T.

 

[The Nick]

I'm assuming Kit66 has looked at a stat sheet and decided that Nabuli was pretty good?

Nabuli is a fantastic specimen with some great physical attributes, and to go from a hotel porter to playing NRL in 3 years is a fantastic achievement. Hell, to go from a hotel porter to even NSW Cup is a fantastic achievement!

I know many pure blooded footballers who have busted their arse most of their young lives to try and make a career out of footy, some of whom have come through junior development systems, played in the national schoolboys competition etc and still didn't get as far as the NSW or QLD Cup. So for Nabuli to go as far as he did in such a short period of time is a phenomenal achievement in itself.

BUT that all being said, his lack of Rugby League education was obvious. His positional play in defence and even attack was off and he often looked lost. In attack the only thing he was capable of doing was holding his chalk and waiting for an opportunity. In defence he looked like he was treading water and barely keeping his head up long enough to take a breath.

Sure, there was a couple of great try saves but there was also some terrible mis-reads, and even situations he didn't read at all, let alone mis-read them.

All the best to Nabuli, I hope he does well. He genuinely seems like a good guy and one day someone may even turn his story into an against-the-odds biopic. But any talk comparing him to Lafai or vice versa is nothing short of rubbish. Apples and oranges.

I've said it before I'll say it again, if stats are the be all and end all of Rugby League then make Paul Gallen an immortal.

 

[kit66]

Lol, I'm better off quoting you than picking out the rubbish in his comments.

Comparing stats for a winger with a centre is plain stupid! Let alone comparing try scoring ability for a winger with that of his inside man!

People want PM on the wing because, despite being a betger centre, he has the right attributes for a winger. He is agile, strong, solid under the high ball, makes plenty of mentres when playing in that position, can score a try under pressure, and is quick. Dont know who the guys saying he is slow are watching, because in the first 3/4 of the season he showed plenty of pace - distinct memories of him schooling Dylan Walker and standing up Ferguson from left centre.
In addition, he has the advantage of being able to swap with Lafai during the set. He did this a few times when he played outside Aitken during the season, worled a treat (one of these led to the aforementioned schooling of Walker).

But I can see where kit is coming from - he obviously hasnt watched much rugby league and just remembers the tall fijian guy. That or he mistook Nabuli for Radradra. But the evidence is strong, and will be moreso throughout this year.

When someone types this sad old line you know they've got nothing. Your arguments are all subjective drivel - e.g. you describe Nabuli tries as "catching the ball and falling over the line" but PM's tries are "under pressure". I provide a reasonable argument and facts while you masturbate in public. It's not the first time but you'd expect nothing less from an out and out w*nker.

 

[The Nick]

When someone types this sad old line you know they've got nothing. Your arguments are all subjective drivel - e.g. you describe Nabuli tries as "catching the ball and falling over the line" but PM's tries are "under pressure". I provide a reasonable argument and facts while you masturbate in public. It's not the first time but you'd expect nothing less from an out and out w*nker.

Mate when NOBODY agrees with you it's usually indicative of:

a) You're much smarter than everybody else, or

b) You're wrong

This forum already has a "I'm much smarter than everyone else" club. I'm the president and we're full. You're wrong.

 

[Miller was a legend]

Pmsl! Love that line Nick

 

[kit66]

You lot are carrying on like I've said Nabuli was the next B. Morris or something when all I've said is he did OK considering - certainly not sh*t as some would have you believe. No-ones proved me wrong on that so your little mutual pats on the back are a bit premature. But carry on.

 

[Miller was a legend]

I said poo not shit. Poo is like a little shit where as shit in the other hand is, well big time shit.

Don't take the comment out of context

 

[BennyV]

When someone types this sad old line you know they've got nothing. Your arguments are all subjective drivel - e.g. you describe Nabuli tries as "catching the ball and falling over the line" but PM's tries are "under pressure". I provide a reasonable argument and facts while you masturbate in public. It's not the first time but you'd expect nothing less from an out and out w*nker.

PM has scored tries under pressure...for example, his try vs Sharks at Kogarah, where he pushed through 4 defenders and positioned himself to get the ball down. As for your 'reasonable arguments'...lol, they include comparing stats for a winger against stats for a centre and using that to talk up the former and down the latter when their defensive roles are completely different. Laughable.

I use that 'sad old line' to give you the benefit of the doubt. Shocked if you have watched a lot of league and still think Nabuli was first grade worthy, let alone comparable to Lafai.