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2017 Crowd Watch

Pommy

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With the more recent eligibility rules tightened for Origin I think that will not be as bad as before.

But I do think the ARLC should ensure all Test playing nations receive the same payment, like they now do with NZ.

Even so a single payment for playing in the pacific test is not going to be equal to three payments for origin and if a player snubs origin in favour of the pacific test on the same weekend you can guarantee they won't be top of the list to be picked for the other games.
 

taipan

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The irony is it shows just how sht the nrl is. All that money, all that support and yet a broke arse RFL with rl a third tier sport in uk can get a prof team in a far flung place likme toronto whilst the nrl dicks around doing nothing. England once again showing australia the way.


Um!! to Cap'n Obvious.
The people behind Toronto put up all the money, arranged to pay the travel costs,doing the local marketing ,as the RFL with as much money as a Darlinghurst derro said ,no plucking worries.Go ahead make our day.

The Perth Pretenders by contrast expect the NRL to rustle up a $9m grant and pay the travel costs.And of course absorb the constant decibel breaking whining.
Me being a mere lump of lard on this planet, suggest there is a world of a difference between the two.
 
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Canard

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Even so a single payment for playing in the pacific test is not going to be equal to three payments for origin and if a player snubs origin in favour of the pacific test on the same weekend you can guarantee they won't be top of the list to be picked for the other games.

Be interesting to see who would be eligible from the squads.

A lot of Fijians wouldn't I'm guessing.
 

undertaker

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I agree to an extent ofcourse, but the Pacific Tests being retained is excellent as it's clearly developing into a major event.
Eventually, they should move it to a larger venue.

I don't know when the Parramatta Stadium re-development is expected to be complete, but I'm sure the Fiji/Samoa/Tonga/Cook Islands/PNG/England fans would turn out in numbers to a larger, more central (via public transportation) location compared to Campbelltown. Definitely potential for 25-30k+ in the future if marketed well.
 
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Perth Red

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Um!! to Cap'n Obvious.
The people behind Toronto put up all the money, arranged to pay the travel costs,doing the local marketing ,as the RFL with as much money as a Darlinghurst derro said ,no plucking worries.Go ahead make our day.

The Perth Pretenders by contrast expect the NRL to rustle up a $9m grant and pay the travel costs.And of course absorb the constant decibel breaking whining.
Me being a mere lump of lard on this planet, suggest there is a world of a difference between the two.

You mean like us paying for a club in Jim beam cup for 3 years to be told your wasting your money, or us paying for a sg ball team in the nsw comp? At least Toronto have a clear and legit pathway to a SL place, whilst we umm and ahhh for years. I know if I was a millionaire wanting to invest in getting a club in the top,flight which looks the most attractive proposition.
 
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You mean like us paying for a club in Jim beam cup for 3 years to be told your wasting your money, or us paying for a sg ball team in the nsw comp? At least Toronto have a clear and legit pathway to a SL place, whilst we umm and ahhh for years. I know if I was a millionaire wanting to invest in getting a club in the top,flight which looks the most attractive proposition.
Us? You have no team and i hope you never do.
 

taipan

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You mean like us paying for a club in Jim beam cup for 3 years to be told your wasting your money, or us paying for a sg ball team in the nsw comp? At least Toronto have a clear and legit pathway to a SL place, whilst we umm and ahhh for years. I know if I was a millionaire wanting to invest in getting a club in the top,flight which looks the most attractive proposition.

As I stated your example ,including the jim Beam effort ,was and still is a completely different comparison to Toronto.
We um and agh because the NRL will have to do the funding which I suggest is a tad more than a Jim or Jan Beam Cup team, the RFL does not in the case of Toronto.Simples.

The NRL is currently banging heads with the RLPA over the salary cap, trying to resurrect the drop in grassroots participation trying to use $100m pa to do so, trying to flog 2 NRL clubs who had incompetent management,spending time sorting out idiots sniffing the white stuff.IOW trying to fit a lot off round pegs into square holes.
Which ATM is a little more pressing than Perth ,with due respects, and we all want a national rl code.
 

Perth Red

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How is it any different? Both clubs set up in expansion areas with local funding to play in the third tier of the sport. Difference is they know they can get to SL through p&r whilst we have to hope 16 other clubs can get their sht together so the nrl,has the confidence to expand. But off thread so take it to expansion.

Once again great opening crowd for a third division game, well done Toronto, start of good things to come hopefully.
 

El Diablo

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How is it any different? Both clubs set up in expansion areas with local funding to play in the third tier of the sport. Difference is they know they can get to SL through p&r whilst we have to hope 16 other clubs can get their sht together so the nrl,has the confidence to expand. But off thread so take it to expansion.

Once again great opening crowd for a third division game, well done Toronto, start of good things to come hopefully.

nice hat you've got there

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taipan

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As I stated your example ,including the jim Beam effort ,was and still is a completely different comparison to Toronto.
We um and agh because the NRL will have to do the funding which I suggest is a tad more than a Jim or Jan Beam Cup team, the RFL does not in the case of Toronto.Simples.

The NRL is currently banging heads with the RLPA over the salary cap, trying to resurrect the drop in grassroots participation trying to use $100m pa to do so, trying to flog 2 NRL clubs who had incompetent management,spending time sorting out idiots sniffing the white stuff.IOW trying to fit a lot off round pegs into square holes.
Which ATM is a little more pressing than Perth ,with due respects, and we all want a national rl code.



How is it any different? Both clubs set up in expansion areas with local funding to play in the third tier of the sport. Difference is they know they can get to SL through p&r whilst we have to hope 16 other clubs can get their sht together so the nrl,has the confidence to expand. But off thread so take it to expansion.

Once again great opening crowd for a third division game, well done Toronto, start of good things to come hopefully.


One team out of the blue is tucked away in another country, and is paying for all costs in getting the Pommy teams to come over and play locally, in addition to their own travel costs.
They approached the RFL out of the blue, the RFL has not outlaid one pound,penny or pesos.
And it is fair to suggest should Toronto get to SL,the RFL will not be paying for airfares.
This same other country club has gained more publicity for rl in their country than at any time in the code's history.
The RFL does not own two ESL clubs which have to be offloaded like the NRL.The RFL does not have issues with club/player salary caps as the NRL does.
Whilst the RFL has participation concerns, the NRL's is far greater with neglect over many years ,covering not only regional areas but cities.
If the situations are the same, then I'm the new President of France.
 
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Are you saying that having a weekend of international games is not growing the game??
I'm saying that two of the games on the weekend will never be played again. Therefore they are quite literally removing the game in a real sense. And in one case the removal of a game is symbolic of the overall neglect and destruction of one of the sport's most significant player nurseries and support bases.
 

Dogs Of War

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I'm saying that two of the games on the weekend will never be played again. Therefore they are quite literally removing the game in a real sense. And in one case the removal of a game is symbolic of the overall neglect and destruction of one of the sport's most significant player nurseries and support bases.

There are better ways to support those players nurseries than a meanless City vs Country which was relevant when good players stayed in the country and played group footy till the money become too much to ignore in Sydney.

Better off having teams forced to hand over say a game every year to a country area. So 16 games around the country each year to expand the presence of the code. Say 4-5 in NSW Country. 1-2 in Perth. 2-3 in QLD Country and anything else can be taken to NZ or another location in the country (NT/VIC Country/TAS).

That would do more for the country areas than a meaningless City vs Country match.
 

Raiderdave

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dont think we're going to set the world on fire with crowds this weekend

Bulldogs V Cowboys 10,000
Dragons V Sharks 15,000
Souths V Tigers 10,000
Penrith V Warriors 10,000
Double Header 40,000
Knights V Raiders 14,000
Roosters V Parramatta 16,000
 

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