2018 Trials

[TheFrog]

Yep but literally no other club would have wanted him.

If the NRL was all there was, perhaps this would be correct, although I'm not convinced he is completely unsaleable in the NRL given his win percentage over six seasons. After all, Cleary got another gig after taking us to the spoonbowl and having a much lower winning percentage at our club.

As has been suggested already, Super League clubs would no doubt fight for Griffin's signature.

 

[umina panther]

If the NRL was all there was, perhaps this would be correct, although I'm not convinced he is completely unsaleable in the NRL given his win percentage over six seasons. After all, Cleary got another gig after taking us to the spoonbowl and having a much lower winning percentage at our club.

As has been suggested already, Super League clubs would no doubt fight for Griffin's signature.

Cleary while he has issues (Injuries, average attack) has done well with poor to average sides. Griffin has done average to very poor with good squads.

 

[TheFrog]

Cleary while he has issues (Injuries, average attack) has done well with poor to average sides. Griffin has done average to very poor with good squads.

What is a good or bad squad is a matter of opinion. Winning percentages aren't.

 

[umina panther]

What is a good or bad squad is a matter of opinion. Winning percentages aren't.

You dense f**ker

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

You dense f**ker

So if someone disagrees with your point of view: you get called names. Wow.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

What is a good or bad squad is a matter of opinion. Winning percentages aren't.

I have a question: What players were brought into the club to take it from Poor- average to Average to good ?

I can only recall Tamou (who isn't rated by many) an Rein who played the majority of the year in ISP (has slow delivery from hooker, and a little malinged).

Trying to work out the logic here.

 

[Abacus]

If Griffin were happy to accept this demotion, there would probably be no issues. It would still involve the club shelling out a seven figure sum for a role that should be worth a tiny fraction of that. Then you have the possibility that another NRL or SuperLeague club offers him a head coaching gig. It could become messy. Some seem to think that could never happen, but he's got a 55% win record in the NRL.

If Griffin dug his heels in (probable), it would be highly likely that this would amount to "constructive dismissal" and they'd have to pay him out in full.

Gus is mates with Griffin's manager, so shouldn't be a problem

 

[umina panther]

I have a question: What players were brought into the club to take it from Poor- average to Average to good ?

I can only recall Tamou (who isn't rated by many) an Rein who played the majority of the year in ISP (has slow delivery from hooker, and a little malinged).

Trying to work out the logic here.

Average Broncos without Locky. Good what hes had here and when he had Locky.

But an average squad with Brisbane means even less with all the other advantages they have. To miss the 8 with them takes a truly awful coach

 

[Abacus]

So if someone disagrees with your point of view: you get called names. Wow.

Take UP's put downs as tongue in cheek. They're special from central coast.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Average Broncos without Locky. Good what hes had here and when he had Locky.

But an average squad with Brisbane means even less with all the other advantages they have. To miss the 8 with them takes a truly awful coach

I was referring to the Panthers squad not the Broncos.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I have a question: What players were brought into the club to take it from Poor- average to Average to good ?

I can only recall Tamou (who isn't rated by many) an Rein who played the majority of the year in ISP (has slow delivery from hooker, and a little malinged).

Trying to work out the logic here.

What timeline are you talking?

Because Soward, Wallace, Whare, Merrin, Peachey have all been brought in from other cubs in the past 5 years.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Cleary while he has issues (Injuries, average attack) has done well with poor to average sides. Griffin has done average to very poor with good squads.

This is what I was referring. I didn't realise the writer was talking about Hook from his time in Griffin, whilst giving IC all the excuses in the world because of ongoing injuries issues. Funny how that was cleaned up with IC and Couger left at the end of 2015.

I was asking the question: How come IC was considered to have a poor - average squad, and Hook and average to good squad at Panthers, with only a couple of players added (none of whom anyone seems to rate)

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Now I can see some folks were talking about coaches and various squads which they coached over the years.

Not a very scientific way of working out coaching stats.

 

[umina panther]

Now I can see some folks were talking about coaches and various squads which they coached over the years.

Not a very scientific way of working out coaching stats.

I never mentioned stats but MX has quoted the ones that actually matter over and over so I won't.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Our squad has had in the past 2 years

2 origin players (Mansour & Moylan)

3 former origin players (Tamou, Wallace & Soward)

3 kiwi internationals (DWZ, Hiku, Whare)

2 Australian internationals (Merrin & RCG) - mansour too but already counted in origin


Nothing subjective about that.

 

[umina panther]

and I wasn't giving Ivan the excuse of injuries I was saying he and Ronnie were the cause of most of them. I have given Hook/Gus credit before for turning that around

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

I never mentioned stats but MX has quoted the ones that actually matter over and over so I won't.

To me these are the only relevent stats. The ME the sample size is too small to be of note:


How many games each coach has won and the winning %. The NRL don't adjust winning teams into whether their squad was poor or average. That doesn't appear in the winners coloumn. Neither where the opposition is placed on the NRL ladder.

 

[umina panther]

To me these are the only relevent stats. The ME the sample size is too small to be of note:


How many games each coach has won and the winning %. The NRL don't adjust winning teams into whether their squad was poor or average. That doesn't appear in the winners coloumn. Neither where the opposition is placed on the NRL ladder.

Ivan had absolute bums STARTING for us. Newton,Ciraldo,Docker,Will Smith, Walsh, Burns.....I could go on and on

 

[TheFrog]

You dense f**ker

You give up too easy.

 

[herbert henry1908]

To me these are the only relevent stats. The ME the sample size is too small to be of note:


How many games each coach has won and the winning %. The NRL don't adjust winning teams into whether their squad was poor or average. That doesn't appear in the winners coloumn. Neither where the opposition is placed on the NRL ladder.

They can’t be easily compared.

Cleary had to do a complete rebuild. Hooks rebuild was much smaller. The squad, despite an appalling 2015, was largely intact.