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wibble

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I’d confidently say Thunberg has way way way more power that the goose in charge here.

Who the f**k is Scott Morrison?

who the f**k was the last bloke in charge here?

who the f**k was the last labour leader in charge?

If she was a fat middle aged man saying the exact same thing, nobody would give a shit.
You included.

Well, I hope you're right. In terms of her influence over others, maybe she has more power, though I'm not sure.

In the context of our conversation about violence and intimidation against ScoMo and Thurnberg, I think your use of "power" here is equivocating (perhaps unintentionally).

In terms of her ability to defend herself, which is the power relevant here, do you think she is on par with the leader of a nation?

If we ask the question of categories of people, do you think fat middle aged men, such as myself, and teenage girls have the same "power" to resist violence or intimidation?

I don't think violence against fat middle aged men is acceptable. I'm a person too, even if I am a weirdo. But if someone says on social media that they want to drown me (or other fat middle aged men), I am not at all threatened and can laugh it off.

The issue you had with me saying it was particularly vile to target Thurnberg is that ScoMo is also targeted, so it must be my hurt feelings that make it "particularly" vile to target a teenage girl.

I can think of plenty of categories of person where it is even more cowardly to target them with abuse, intimidation, threatened, implied or real violence, despite the fact that it is terrible to do that to anyone. This isn't my hurt feelings working overtime, and it may be considered condescending by some if I "disempower" whole categories of people by saying they can't defend themselves.

The real crux of the matter is that intimidation is actively used as a tactic to silence people, based on them being vulnerable to actual or threats of violence. This is not solely a conservative tactic, but is certainly in line with online trolling and other "incel" behaviours.

Do you genuinely see no difference between targeting teenage girls and fat middle aged men? or Thurnberg and ScoMo?
 

wibble

Bench
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So anyway, I just read that an eggplant is not a vegetable. It's a berry by botanical definition.

And a peanut is neither a pea or a nut.

Though some might say there are some peanuts here, including that wibble nut.
 
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Well, I hope you're right. In terms of her influence over others, maybe she has more power, though I'm not sure.

In the context of our conversation about violence and intimidation against ScoMo and Thurnberg, I think your use of "power" here is equivocating (perhaps unintentionally).

In terms of her ability to defend herself, which is the power relevant here, do you think she is on par with the leader of a nation?

If we ask the question of categories of people, do you think fat middle aged men, such as myself, and teenage girls have the same "power" to resist violence or intimidation?

I don't think violence against fat middle aged men is acceptable. I'm a person too, even if I am a weirdo. But if someone says on social media that they want to drown me (or other fat middle aged men), I am not at all threatened and can laugh it off.

The issue you had with me saying it was particularly vile to target Thurnberg is that ScoMo is also targeted, so it must be my hurt feelings that make it "particularly" vile to target a teenage girl.

I can think of plenty of categories of person where it is even more cowardly to target them with abuse, intimidation, threatened, implied or real violence, despite the fact that it is terrible to do that to anyone. This isn't my hurt feelings working overtime, and it may be considered condescending by some if I "disempower" whole categories of people by saying they can't defend themselves.

The real crux of the matter is that intimidation is actively used as a tactic to silence people, based on them being vulnerable to actual or threats of violence. This is not solely a conservative tactic, but is certainly in line with online trolling and other "incel" behaviours.

Do you genuinely see no difference between targeting teenage girls and fat middle aged men? or Thurnberg and ScoMo?

See this is one of the reasons why I call you a weirdo.

1. If someone says “I can’t believe Wibble did that. That makes me so angry! I’m go wring his neck.” Do you believe they are serious or is it just a phrase? Of course it’s just a phrase.

2. I never said I would go ahead and harm Greta. I said “ I’d like to reacquaint her to rain water in a bucket now. But I’m afraid if I did I might hold her head in it too long. “ So that insinuates I wouldn’t do it. But hey you should join the Labour Party or the Communist Greens Party because they like to twist statements and make something out of nothing.

3. I don’t think Greta frequents the Front Row Forum and logs onto see what’s the chat about the Cronulla Sharks.

4. There is a difference about targeting , harassing and threatening someone directly on their personal social media platforms than making a non direct and in jest non threatening statement on a platform she would never visit.

5. How about this record rain!!! Is that climate change too? If it is why didn’t they predict it? Remember the statement was do not expect any decent rain in the first half of 2020. What a f**k up. It’s a record drop. You mean they can predict what’s going to happen in 10 years time apparently but couldn’t see this in a 3 month window? Ok..........
 

wibble

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See this is one of the reasons why I call you a weirdo.

1. If someone says “I can’t believe Wibble did that. That makes me so angry! I’m go wring his neck.” Do you believe they are serious or is it just a phrase? Of course it’s just a phrase.

2. I never said I would go ahead and harm Greta. I said “ I’d like to reacquaint her to rain water in a bucket now. But I’m afraid if I did I might hold her head in it too long. “ So that insinuates I wouldn’t do it. But hey you should join the Labour Party or the Communist Greens Party because they like to twist statements and make something out of nothing.

3. I don’t think Greta frequents the Front Row Forum and logs onto see what’s the chat about the Cronulla Sharks.

4. There is a difference about targeting , harassing and threatening someone directly on their personal social media platforms than making a non direct and in jest non threatening statement on a platform she would never visit.

5. How about this record rain!!! Is that climate change too? If it is why didn’t they predict it? Remember the statement was do not expect any decent rain in the first half of 2020. What a f**k up. It’s a record drop. You mean they can predict what’s going to happen in 10 years time apparently but couldn’t see this in a 3 month window? Ok..........

Do you think any teenage girls might ever read these forums?

If they do, do you think saying you might not have the self control to avoid drowning one might be intimidating, if they wanted to write something here?

I agree that targeting someone on their personal social media platforms is worse than on a platform they will never visit. What sort of thing might you say on Thurnberg's personal media platforms to intimidate her? Not that you lack the control to avoid drowning her, surely, as she must surely see that one as in jest and non threatening.

Rather than insinuate that you would never do it, how about in the intervening posts where you call me a weirdo, you instead (or as well as) outright say that you were obviously being rhetorical, and you would never want a teenage girl to feel she couldn't express her opinion on here.

Anyway, I am not a vulnerable target so feel free to say what you want about me. Even gang up, it won't bother me. But this is a public forum. I know all sorts of things come down to context, and the one statement can be viewed by different people as having different meaning, but would you be comfortable with strangers commenting around your teenage daughter how they want to "wring the neck" / "drown" or perform some other rhetorical act of violence against a teenage girl? Do you think there is a chance this is intimidating?

This is used as a tactic, deliberately, by many on forums and online spaces to shut down discussion from people who feel vulnerable to violence. In a public space, rather than assume that everyone understands perfectly that there is no possible threat when you say threatening things, how about clarify straight away, or better yet, find other ways to make your point?

In regards to your statement about Labor and the Communist Greens, I might just quote ScoMo and say that is your editorial.

I don't know what "statement" about rain you refer to, but doesn't "record" rain alert you that the climate is getting very different?

Your argument about weather vs long term climate was made by Hanson on TV just a short while ago, and was equally ridiculous when she said it. If you are so sure about long term climate being abstruse enough that we can't make predictions, I'll make a bet with you that December 2025 is a hell of a lot warmer than June 2025 in Sydney, even though I can't possibly tell you what the weather or rain will be even next June.
 

snout

First Grade
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Do you think any teenage girls might ever read these forums?

If they do, do you think saying you might not have the self control to avoid drowning one might be intimidating, if they wanted to write something here?

I agree that targeting someone on their personal social media platforms is worse than on a platform they will never visit. What sort of thing might you say on Thurnberg's personal media platforms to intimidate her? Not that you lack the control to avoid drowning her, surely, as she must surely see that one as in jest and non threatening.

Rather than insinuate that you would never do it, how about in the intervening posts where you call me a weirdo, you instead (or as well as) outright say that you were obviously being rhetorical, and you would never want a teenage girl to feel she couldn't express her opinion on here.

Anyway, I am not a vulnerable target so feel free to say what you want about me. Even gang up, it won't bother me. But this is a public forum. I know all sorts of things come down to context, and the one statement can be viewed by different people as having different meaning, but would you be comfortable with strangers commenting around your teenage daughter how they want to "wring the neck" / "drown" or perform some other rhetorical act of violence against a teenage girl? Do you think there is a chance this is intimidating?

This is used as a tactic, deliberately, by many on forums and online spaces to shut down discussion from people who feel vulnerable to violence. In a public space, rather than assume that everyone understands perfectly that there is no possible threat when you say threatening things, how about clarify straight away, or better yet, find other ways to make your point?

In regards to your statement about Labor and the Communist Greens, I might just quote ScoMo and say that is your editorial.

I don't know what "statement" about rain you refer to, but doesn't "record" rain alert you that the climate is getting very different?

Your argument about weather vs long term climate was made by Hanson on TV just a short while ago, and was equally ridiculous when she said it. If you are so sure about long term climate being abstruse enough that we can't make predictions, I'll make a bet with you that December 2025 is a hell of a lot warmer than June 2025 in Sydney, even though I can't possibly tell you what the weather or rain will be even next June.
Maaaaate.
Let.
It.
Go.
 

wibble

Bench
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Maaaaate.
Let.
It.
Go.

Why? Are you worried I'll sanitize the forum? Little chance of that, I reckon.

Is it so hard to accept that threats of violence on a public forum about a teenage girl, even if "rhetorical", even if she herself won't see them, are intimidating, and used to unfairly shut down certain people (of whom I'm obviously not one) from having a voice?

Are these the standards you would set for strangers talking around your daughters?
 

carcharias

Immortal
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Well, I hope you're right. In terms of her influence over others, maybe she has more power, though I'm not sure.

In the context of our conversation about violence and intimidation against ScoMo and Thurnberg, I think your use of "power" here is equivocating (perhaps unintentionally).

In terms of her ability to defend herself, which is the power relevant here, do you think she is on par with the leader of a nation?

If we ask the question of categories of people, do you think fat middle aged men, such as myself, and teenage girls have the same "power" to resist violence or intimidation?

I don't think violence against fat middle aged men is acceptable. I'm a person too, even if I am a weirdo. But if someone says on social media that they want to drown me (or other fat middle aged men), I am not at all threatened and can laugh it off.

The issue you had with me saying it was particularly vile to target Thurnberg is that ScoMo is also targeted, so it must be my hurt feelings that make it "particularly" vile to target a teenage girl.

I can think of plenty of categories of person where it is even more cowardly to target them with abuse, intimidation, threatened, implied or real violence, despite the fact that it is terrible to do that to anyone. This isn't my hurt feelings working overtime, and it may be considered condescending by some if I "disempower" whole categories of people by saying they can't defend themselves.

The real crux of the matter is that intimidation is actively used as a tactic to silence people, based on them being vulnerable to actual or threats of violence. This is not solely a conservative tactic, but is certainly in line with online trolling and other "incel" behaviours.

Do you genuinely see no difference between targeting teenage girls and fat middle aged men? or Thurnberg and ScoMo?
Do you think you might be taking dragons slayers smart arse comment a little too seriously?
 

Quicksilver

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Climate change is about the earth getting hotter.

What happens with heat?

Harsh droughts and violent storms.

This isn’t at all inconsistent with the science.

But nit-pick all you like. You’re only fooling yourself. Not that it really matters.

Go to work, eat your Maccas and throw the rubbish out the car window. Be happy.
 
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Climate change is about the earth getting hotter.

What happens with heat?

Harsh droughts and violent storms.

This isn’t at all inconsistent with the science.

But nit-pick all you like. You’re only fooling yourself. Not that it really matters.

Go to work, eat your Maccas and throw the rubbish out the car window. Be happy.

Oh I believe the earth’s climate changes. History tells you that.

I just think it’s ludicrous that people think man kind can change it.

Whenever this topic has come up in discussion around me and there is someone that thinks we can change the earth’s climate I politely ask oh how do we do that?

Most people say reduce carbon emissions. I respond with do you know that there are also scientists that have done their calculations and said even if we have zero man made world emissions the change to the temperature would be so insignificant it would not be worth recording.

Now if it’s all about emissions and Australia’s contributions is about 1% why the hell are people blaming the Government about the bushfires because we didn’t act on climate change? How the f**k would have Australia cutting it’s contribution of 1% world emissions changed anything about the bushfires?

Do we blame Bob Carr for locking up access to a lot of National Parks? Do we blame the Greenies for preventing hazard burning? Do we blame the Federal Government for not purchasing a fleet of aircraft that could’ve saved more houses when it was recommended to them 2 years ago? Do we blame the drought that Australia has experienced on a regular basis in it’s history? Do we blame all the f**king arsonists who started the majority of the fires?

I’d say these reasons are more relevant than frickin carbon emissions. And guess what the above listed is actually something we can change!
 

Ads

First Grade
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Australia could cease to exist and it wouldn’t change a thing. Think the number was .00 something percent. And people want us to blow our economy to shreds in some sort of virtue signalling orgy.
 
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Australia could cease to exist and it wouldn’t change a thing. Think the number was .00 something percent. And people want us to blow our economy to shreds in some sort of virtue signalling orgy.
They are complete & utter morons. Middle class , inner city, socialist, guilt ridden, lifestyle killers.
 

Quicksilver

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Virtue Signalling: don’t do the right thing because people might think you’re trying to do the right thing.

Can you guys come up with anything that doesn’t come out if the mouth of some YouTube/fox/am radio hack?
 
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