Rd13: Parra v Sharks GAME DAY thread (9/8/20)

[Bandwagon]

Anecdotal stats?

The best kind of evidence

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Which stats are those mate, cause I'm goin' off what I see, not what I read?

Well we're both seeing Ponga play this year and I'm amazed you think his involvement is low. His impact might be down but he works hard.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Which stats are those mate, cause I'm goin' off what I see, not what I read?

https://mc.championdata.com/nrl/

 

[Bandwagon]

Well we're both seeing Ponga play this year and I'm amazed you think his involvement is low. His impact might be down but he works hard.

I'm seeing his workrate off the ball, supporting through the middle, and kick chase as all being poor

 

[Bandwagon]

https://mc.championdata.com/nrl/

Yes, I'm aware of that website, but what stats are you referring to?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'm seeing his workrate off the ball, supporting through the middle, and kick chase as all being poor

He is fifth in the NRL for support runs, ahead of Gutherson: https://www.nrl.com/stats/players/?competition=111&season=2020&stat=1000015

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes, I'm aware of that website, but what stats are you referring to?

The stats on that website. They aren't compiled, so you'd have to go through individual games, but I guarantee you I can find at least five games this year where Ponga has better involvement stats than Hayne's best in 2014 (which were both Canberra games if you couldn't be arsed looking). In fact I could probably find ten.

 

[Bandwagon]

He is fifth in the NRL for support runs, ahead of Gutherson: https://www.nrl.com/stats/players/?competition=111&season=2020&stat=1000015

I'm pretty surprised by that stat TBH, 'cause it doesn't correlate with what I'm seeing of his involvement

 

[Poupou Escobar]

TBH I was surprised to see him ahead of Gutherson, but I haven't exactly been counting the number of support runs they both make.

Our observations are very unreliable. A lot of the time we see what we want to see, and what most of us want to see regarding Ponga is for the Knights to be punished for paying a fortune to poach some unproven kid from another club. Everyone except Newcastle fans wants to see Ponga turn out to be overpaid. But I don't think he is overpaid. He is truly elite. Definitely a better player than Gutherson in almost every way, though he probably doesn't bring the same level of leadership.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I don't rely on stats. Everything I have seen with my own eyes suggests that we need to punt Gutho.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

He's young. You so harsh.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

FFS Gary!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't rely on stats. Everything I have seen with my own eyes suggests that we need to punt Gutho.

I saw him drop a f**ken sitter in 2016. He had a shit game. He is shit.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I saw him drop a f**ken sitter in 2016. He had a shit game. He is shit.

I've never seen him play. I was just going off his haircut.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't like any merkin able to get haircuts.

 

[Gary Gutful]

He needs to f**ken go!

 

[hindy111]

He needs to f**ken go!

f**k of merkin

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What have we won since Gutho joined the club? f**ken nothing! We won four premierships without him ffs.

 

[Noise]

What have we won since Gutho joined the club? f**ken nothing! We won four premierships without him ffs.

The 9s.
The Spoon.
The John Mannah Cup

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Fair enough. I guess I just don't like his hair.