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Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent

BODISGOD

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Do you say the same thing about NFL and NBA players?
What’s this now? That the U.S. has a culture of non international travel amongst some of the population and particular areas like the South is obvious. Wanting to be aligned with them is interesting.
 

Trifili13

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So lets ban players for 10 years that dare to even talk to another sport that may pay them life changing money to set their families up but slap a player on the wrist with a 9 game ban for crashing into a family and causing injury while unlicensed and on illegal drugs.
 

newc18

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So lets ban players for 10 years that dare to even talk to another sport that may pay them life changing money to set their families up but slap a player on the wrist with a 9 game ban for crashing into a family and causing injury while unlicensed and on illegal drugs.
One has the potential to destroy the sport and the other one doesn't. Pretty simple stuff.
 

Wb1234

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Threats follow’: R360 boss hits back after NRL, rugby union ban threats against players
R360 officials say they were not surprised by the NRL’s threat to players, on the back of rugby slamming the door shut on Test caps for those who join the rebel league, but believe the new competition will kick-off as planned.
Jamie Pandaram
Jamie Pandaram
@JamiePandaram
3 min read
October 15, 2025 - 9:17PM
News Sport Network

NRL: Brent Read speaks to Fox Sports News about the NRLâs decision to impose a ten-year ban on any player who signs with the rebel code.
R360 officials are adamant their competition will kick off next year despite the NRL warning players they’ll be banned for 10 years if they sign contracts with the rebel tournament.
In response to the NRL’s stunning announcement, co-chief executive of R360, Mark Spoors, said on Wednesday evening that they were not surprised by the league’s declaration, which followed last week’s statement by major rugby union boards around the world that R360 participants would no longer be eligible for internationals.
NRL CEO Andrew Abdo and ARLC chairman Peter V'landys. Picture: Getty Images
NRL CEO Andrew Abdo and ARLC chairman Peter V'landys. Picture: Getty Images
“Recent announcements, sadly, have been anticipated,” Spoors said.
“History shows that when athletes are offered free choice and given fresh opportunities for them and their families then threats to those sportsmen and women follow.
“R360 is about empowering players, giving them, rugby lovers and the next generation of fans opportunities and new platforms to enjoy the sport we love.
“We know there is much interest in understanding more about the global series we’re building. We remain on plan and look forward to sharing and discussing the detail in the coming months.
“That will include details of the exciting male and female playing talent who will participate in R360 when we kick off in October 2026.”
Earlier in the day, ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys said the game’s commission would issue a decade-long ban to players and their agents from the league if they signed deals with R360.
NRL CEO Peter V’landys has made clear players won’t have a quick path back to the NRL. Picture: Getty Images
NRL CEO Peter V’landys has made clear players won’t have a quick path back to the NRL. Picture: Getty Images
“The Commission has a clear duty to act in the best interests of rugby league and its fans—and we will take all necessary steps to protect the future of the game,” V’landys said.
“Unfortunately, there will always be organisations that seek to pirate our game for potential financial gain.
“They don’t invest in pathways or the development of players —they simply exploit the hard work of others, putting players at risk of financial loss while profiting themselves. They are, in reality, counterfeiting a code.
“Accordingly, if it all goes wrong it’s the players who suffer most. Every stakeholder must be accountable to the standards our fans expect. We’ve listened to our clubs, and we’ve acted decisively.”
Ryan Papenhuyzen is believed to be among the major targets. Picture: Getty Images
Ryan Papenhuyzen is believed to be among the major targets. Picture: Getty Images
The likes of Payne Haas, Zac Lomax, Ryan Papenhuyzen and Jye Gray are all believed to be weighing up significant offers from R360, which has the involvement of former England international Mike Tindall, with financial backing from European and American private equity firms.
New Zealand Warriors star Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is understood to have already signed an R360 contract and won’t be swayed by the ban threat, given he is 32 years old.
Warriors star Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is understood to have already signed a R360 contract. Picture: AP Photo
Warriors star Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is understood to have already signed a R360 contract. Picture: AP Photo
Established rugby unions, including Rugby Australia, has already told players that joining R360 would rule them out of international duties including the 2027 World Cup and the Olympics.
Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Ireland, England, Scotland, France and Italy issued a joint warning to all of their players last week.
“As a group of national rugby unions, we are urging extreme caution for players and support staff considering joining the proposed R360 competition,” the joint statement said.
“We all welcome new investment and innovation in rugby; and support ideas that can help the game evolve and reach new audiences; but any new competition must strengthen the sport as a whole, not fragment or weaken it.
Rugby Australia CEO Phil Waugh. Picture: Getty Images
Rugby Australia CEO Phil Waugh. Picture: Getty Images
“Among our roles as national unions, we must take a wider view on new propositions and assess their impact on a range of areas, including whether they add to rugby’s global ecosystem, for which we are all responsible, or whether they are a net negative to the game.
“R360 has given us no indication as to how it plans to manage player welfare; how players would fulfil their aspirations of representing their countries, and how the competition would coexist with the international and domestic calendars so painstakingly negotiated in recent years for both our men’s and women’s games.
Former England World Cup winner Mike Tindall is among the co-founders of R360. Picture: AP Photo
Former England World Cup winner Mike Tindall is among the co-founders of R360. Picture: AP Photo
“The R360 model, as outlined publicly, rather appears designed to generate profits and return them to a very small elite, potentially hollowing out the investment that national unions and existing leagues make in community rugby, player development, and participation pathways.
“International rugby and our major competitions remain the financial and cultural engine that sustains every level of the game — from grassroots participation to elite performance. Undermining that ecosystem could be enormously harmful to the health of our sport.
“These are all issues that would have been much better discussed collaboratively, but those behind the proposed competition have not engaged with or met all unions to explain and better understand their business and operating model.
“Each of the national unions will therefore be advising men’s and women’s players that participation in R360 would make them ineligible for international selection.”

 

Wb1234

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Why not just make the competition rugby league rules. They could work with the nrl and top up with union players

Way more chance it would be a success as the game would be more appealing

Playing it in the rugby league off season so nobody gets banned

Everyone wins
 

Pippen94

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Threats follow’: R360 boss hits back after NRL, rugby union ban threats against players
R360 officials say they were not surprised by the NRL’s threat to players, on the back of rugby slamming the door shut on Test caps for those who join the rebel league, but believe the new competition will kick-off as planned.
Jamie Pandaram
Jamie Pandaram
@JamiePandaram
3 min read
October 15, 2025 - 9:17PM
News Sport Network

NRL: Brent Read speaks to Fox Sports News about the NRLâs decision to impose a ten-year ban on any player who signs with the rebel code.
R360 officials are adamant their competition will kick off next year despite the NRL warning players they’ll be banned for 10 years if they sign contracts with the rebel tournament.
In response to the NRL’s stunning announcement, co-chief executive of R360, Mark Spoors, said on Wednesday evening that they were not surprised by the league’s declaration, which followed last week’s statement by major rugby union boards around the world that R360 participants would no longer be eligible for internationals.
NRL CEO Andrew Abdo and ARLC chairman Peter V'landys. Picture: Getty Images
NRL CEO Andrew Abdo and ARLC chairman Peter V'landys. Picture: Getty Images
“Recent announcements, sadly, have been anticipated,” Spoors said.
“History shows that when athletes are offered free choice and given fresh opportunities for them and their families then threats to those sportsmen and women follow.
“R360 is about empowering players, giving them, rugby lovers and the next generation of fans opportunities and new platforms to enjoy the sport we love.
“We know there is much interest in understanding more about the global series we’re building. We remain on plan and look forward to sharing and discussing the detail in the coming months.
“That will include details of the exciting male and female playing talent who will participate in R360 when we kick off in October 2026.”
Earlier in the day, ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys said the game’s commission would issue a decade-long ban to players and their agents from the league if they signed deals with R360.
NRL CEO Peter V’landys has made clear players won’t have a quick path back to the NRL. Picture: Getty Images
NRL CEO Peter V’landys has made clear players won’t have a quick path back to the NRL. Picture: Getty Images
“The Commission has a clear duty to act in the best interests of rugby league and its fans—and we will take all necessary steps to protect the future of the game,” V’landys said.
“Unfortunately, there will always be organisations that seek to pirate our game for potential financial gain.
“They don’t invest in pathways or the development of players —they simply exploit the hard work of others, putting players at risk of financial loss while profiting themselves. They are, in reality, counterfeiting a code.
“Accordingly, if it all goes wrong it’s the players who suffer most. Every stakeholder must be accountable to the standards our fans expect. We’ve listened to our clubs, and we’ve acted decisively.”
Ryan Papenhuyzen is believed to be among the major targets. Picture: Getty Images
Ryan Papenhuyzen is believed to be among the major targets. Picture: Getty Images
The likes of Payne Haas, Zac Lomax, Ryan Papenhuyzen and Jye Gray are all believed to be weighing up significant offers from R360, which has the involvement of former England international Mike Tindall, with financial backing from European and American private equity firms.
New Zealand Warriors star Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is understood to have already signed an R360 contract and won’t be swayed by the ban threat, given he is 32 years old.
Warriors star Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is understood to have already signed a R360 contract. Picture: AP Photo
Warriors star Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is understood to have already signed a R360 contract. Picture: AP Photo
Established rugby unions, including Rugby Australia, has already told players that joining R360 would rule them out of international duties including the 2027 World Cup and the Olympics.
Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Ireland, England, Scotland, France and Italy issued a joint warning to all of their players last week.
“As a group of national rugby unions, we are urging extreme caution for players and support staff considering joining the proposed R360 competition,” the joint statement said.
“We all welcome new investment and innovation in rugby; and support ideas that can help the game evolve and reach new audiences; but any new competition must strengthen the sport as a whole, not fragment or weaken it.
Rugby Australia CEO Phil Waugh. Picture: Getty Images
Rugby Australia CEO Phil Waugh. Picture: Getty Images
“Among our roles as national unions, we must take a wider view on new propositions and assess their impact on a range of areas, including whether they add to rugby’s global ecosystem, for which we are all responsible, or whether they are a net negative to the game.
“R360 has given us no indication as to how it plans to manage player welfare; how players would fulfil their aspirations of representing their countries, and how the competition would coexist with the international and domestic calendars so painstakingly negotiated in recent years for both our men’s and women’s games.
Former England World Cup winner Mike Tindall is among the co-founders of R360. Picture: AP Photo
Former England World Cup winner Mike Tindall is among the co-founders of R360. Picture: AP Photo
“The R360 model, as outlined publicly, rather appears designed to generate profits and return them to a very small elite, potentially hollowing out the investment that national unions and existing leagues make in community rugby, player development, and participation pathways.
“International rugby and our major competitions remain the financial and cultural engine that sustains every level of the game — from grassroots participation to elite performance. Undermining that ecosystem could be enormously harmful to the health of our sport.
“These are all issues that would have been much better discussed collaboratively, but those behind the proposed competition have not engaged with or met all unions to explain and better understand their business and operating model.
“Each of the national unions will therefore be advising men’s and women’s players that participation in R360 would make them ineligible for international selection.”


If this thing isn't Saudi backed and thus falls over those players aren't getting paid
 

Chimp

Bench
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Wouldn’t be challenging it now

They would go and when they came back and got refused would have to start a case

The threat will make a difference as 2 years of higher wages and potentially being a bricklayer after isn’t so appealing

And one of the articles said Pvl got legal advice I doubt he would expose the game to frivolous law suits

If nrl clubs stay solid and nobody offers a contract then it gets harder for the player
This is a deterrent and a deterrent only in reality - the point of this isn’t to stop players returning, it’s making a move to R360 appear an even bigger gamble to the player, because if you negotiate with them, or go join them, you’re not guaranteed a way back to the NRL if it all goes pear shaped. If you want to come back, you’re firstly going to need a club who’ll welcome you back (and at the moment the clubs are aligned with NRLs stance - though that would clearly change once a superstar is available via R360) and then secondly, you know you’re going to have to get into a legal battle.
Whether it’s legally enforceable or not is to a degree irrelevant - it shows that the NRL and clubs are aligned, and that you’ll essentially be an outcast if you try and play the R360 card in negotiations.
 

Trifili13

Juniors
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And for those saying that PVL got legal advice. While that is likely to be true, doesn't mean that advice will stand up in court if challenged. Plenty of people have received legal advice that they are in the right, went ahead and lost in court. If a player has not broken any contract and has only had a chat with R360 but not signed any contract that may be placed in front of them, you would think a10 year ban is excessive and may struggle to stand up in court if challenged. As usual the lawyers will be the winners.

PVL from a week ago
“Any competition that comes out of a Corn Flakes box, I’m not really concerned about,” V’landys said at the squad announcement in Sydney on Monday morning.

“That’s what it is. It’s a completely unprofessional (concept), they’ve got no business plan, and any player that goes is really risking their career.

“It’s a competition out of a Corn Flakes box so I’m not going to be concerned about it.”

A week later threatening 10 year bans for anyone even having a chat with R360.

While some league players might go across given the money that has been talked about, I personally don't see any mass defection. It would be strange for R360 to be chasing a heap of league players that have no background in union that very few if anybody in the cities that have been mentioned where the games will be played have never heard of.
 

taste2taste

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The Guardian is reporting that Union star George Ford has knocked back R360 to sign with English Union. That's 3 of englands best players that have knocked back R360 in the past week.

Not sure R360 have enough money to tempt the top players.


 

Wb1234

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The Guardian is reporting that Union star George Ford has knocked back R360 to sign with English Union. That's 3 of englands best players that have knocked back R360 in the past week.

Not sure R360 have enough money to tempt the top players.


So they offer an established union player 50 percent less than Payne hass?

They’ve got their priorities right
 

Perth Red

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Or

Earn $9mil for three years in r360 then Japan Union for 4-5 years on 1.4m a year. Sorted for life.
Yeh but that means playing union all your career! I can see them going over and taking the money but miss playing league or not being very good at union. Superleague could be a big winner out of vlads apartheid.
 

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