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Sack Flanagan

maestro1

First Grade
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5,487
I’ve been a member of this forum for 10 years dickwad, Im not going anywhere.
You’ll be gone again soon enough on one of your hiatus , do you avoid the forum completely when dragons are winning or do you still lurk in here to buildup your receipts?
How sad, only posting when losing, MIA after a win. Sad sack.
Hi Crush, the best way to get rid of these trolls is to ignore them........No response, no matter how tempting it is. They only flourish whilst posters reply to them. It is their oxygen. Without response they die and disappear.

This fxcker created multiple accounts when it's "I'm Hornby" account was ignored. So it commenced on another account with the same tired shit, until that one started to get ignored. It sometimes backs itself with supportive accounts. Now it is back with a vengeance....feeding off the losses and posters arguing with it.

This moron, responds to everything I type with a laughing emoji, just waiting for me to bite back....I don't respond to it at all. It'll try to bait me with demeaning comments just daring me to respond. I refuse to no matter how tempting it is to. Trust me it works.
 
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I'm Hornby

Juniors
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1,436
Hi Crush, the best way to get rid of these trolls is to ignore them........No response, no matter how tempting it is. They only flourish whilst posters reply to them. It is their oxygen. Without response they die and disappear.

This fxcker created multiple accounts when it's "I'm Hornby" account was ignored. So it commenced on another account with the same tired shit, until that one started to get ignored. It sometimes backs itself with supportive accounts. Now it is back with a vengeance....feeding off the losses and posters arguing with it.

This moron, responds to everything I type with a laughing emoji, just waiting for me to bite back....I don't respond to it at all. It'll try to bait me with demeaning comments just daring me to respond. I refuse to no matter how tempting it is to. Trust me it works.
First paragraph you say 'Trolls' and 'them' implying more than one, then second paragraph you hide behind your old fallacy that I have multiple accounts and it's all the same person.

Very intelligent assessment as usual from the Maestro 😂😂😂😂
 

possm

Coach
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17,567
Sack the board their the pricks that are stuffing things up.get some balls and get them out of the place before it's to late. if it's not already to late.
Form a sub-committee tasked with all things FOOTBALL
CEO
Football Manager - replace Haran
Head Coach - replace Flanagan
Recruitment Manager

'The Board to give this sub-committee a budget and relevent rules of operation within the salary cap.
 
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This article was published by the Sydney Morning Herald (source: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/th...so-why-can-t-the-dragons-20260406-p5zlih.html) -

The Bulldogs and Tigers have rebuilt their rosters. So why can’t the Dragons?​

Dan Walsh

Dan Walsh
April 7, 2026 — 5:00am

Admittedly, it’s a hot field for long-suffering Dragons fans.

But the most galling thing of all in the club’s current plight might be the jealous glances across the back fence at two of their closest neighbours and fellow underachievers of the past decade.

At the end of 2023, Wests Tigers, the Dragons and Bulldogs finished 17th, 16th and 15th respectively.

Even with another Tigers wooden spoon since, two of the three clubs have rebuilt, revamped and recruited their way out of the mire.

St George Illawarra shot up to within a win or so of the 2024 finals, shot right back down and sit once again with a coach in the crosshairs, a badly misshapen roster and seemingly once more years of rebuilding ahead of them.

Another demoralising loss to Manly on Friday could well hasten what feels an inevitable end for Shane Flanagan, though the Dragons’ hierarchy has stressed its support for the coach throughout an 0-5 start to the year.

Behind the scenes, officials talk of significant club-wide change, just as Canterbury and Wests Tigers counterparts did for years.

But where the Bulldogs rebuild gathered momentum with the signings of Matt Burton, Viliame Kikau, Reed Mahoney and Stephen Crichton – and with Cameron Ciraldo coaching astutely and Phil Gould able to sell ice to the eskimos – the Dragons’ big-money recruits are among their biggest problems.

The Tigers remain only five minutes away from another boardroom blow-up, with Shane Richardson’s exit as CEO still fresh in the memory. But Jarome Luai, Api Koroisau, the May brothers and Fainu trio form a core of signings devoted to coach Benji Marshall, having joined the club to play under him.

Struggling clubs have forever had to pay “overs” to land game-changing recruits. Canterbury and the Tigers – and the list of star signings above – are no exceptions.

Neither are St George Illawarra. Keaon Koloamatangi arrives in 2027 on a five-year, $5 million-plus deal, with the Dragons offering an extra season that the Rabbitohs and Eels baulked at.

Koloamatangi is their first marquee signing after years of scrambling and coming up short in a scrapper’s market. But that won’t necessarily change now either.

Under Flanagan and predecessor Anthony Griffin, the Dragons have notably signed a cast of veteran recruits, often with their previous clubs paying freight to move them on.

Valentine Holmes (30), Clint Gutherson (31) and Damien Cook (34) were signed in late-2024 with Flanagan valuing their experience and professionalism, and each offering exactly that for much of last year.

Lining them up alongside a bright crop of local juniors (Dylan Egan, Kade Reed, Hamish Stewart and the Couchman twins) was sound enough as Flanagan reshaped a roster to play his preferred tough, reasonably conservative, effort-based footy.

But with Holmes struggling for form, a salary of about $900,000 to play centre (typically one of the cheaper positions to fill in an NRL roster) is a millstone and a figure that dwarfs the Dragons’ investment in their halves.

Especially when Gutherson is on similar money without any chip-in from Parramatta. While he is playing his backside off as always, he looks increasingly off the pace as an NRL fullback.

Holmes and Gutherson are signed until the end of 2027 and, like Cook, their best years are behind them, which each of their previous clubs could see.

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The Ben Hunt saga from two years ago, meanwhile, has left the Dragons hunting for a halfback when there is a dire shortage of them.

Cronulla had been eyeing a potential shift to fullback for Daniel Atkinson – a move that could have suited his running game far better than the game-managing No.7 role the Dragons are paying about $500,000 a year for.

An elite playmaker has been on Flanagan’s wishlist for some time, but privately player agents point to the way Lachlan Ilias and Jonah Glover couldn’t get a look in at the Dragons as reason to shop their clients elsewhere.

The suggestion Kyle Flanagan could tip Atkinson out of the halfback role – as underwhelming as he was against the Cowboys – if he’s fit to return from a heavy head knock, will do nothing to dispel that, even if Flanagan is the club’s best organising No.7.

With Flanagan senior’s future under the microscope, an email landed with relevant player managers on Sunday telling them all extension talks with the Dragons are on hold for now, including well-advanced negotiations on Cook’s new one-year deal.

Prop Blake Lawrie and Luciano Leilua are the biggest earners on St George Illawarra’s off-contract list and two of their best-paid forwards, along with Queensland Origin representative Jaydn Su’A (who has an option for 2027 in his favour).

The club’s new recruitment boss, Daniel Anderson, has room to move with their roster and an impressive track record in fostering the generation of young forwards and playmakers emerging at the Roosters.

But he is also wading into a market where player values are skewed by the new Perth and PNG franchises, the latter with lucrative tax exemptions.

The Dragons are rightly staking plenty on their latest crop of juniors, too. But again, it’s not for the first time that line has been pushed.

Bud Sullivan, Junior Amone and Tyrell Sloan were the last batch of south coast stars touted for big things. Sloan is now the only one left at the club, but was given permission to explore an early exit last year (albeit with serious off-field incidents rubbing Amone out of the game).

Beleaguered Dragons fans could be forgiven reasonable scepticism too regarding the club’s recent backline targets, Titans veteran Phil Sami and Dolphins utility Trai Fuller, who would come with more speed than star power.

As galling as it might be, at least the Bulldogs and Tigers offer hope, and maybe instruction, in how to turn a roster around.
 

I'm Hornby

Juniors
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1,436
Not to sharp the old Maestro fella 🫪
Have you noticed that he never posts in the match thread after a loss? You'd think he'd be just as disappointed as the rest of us in the team performance and would want to vent some frustration, but nope it's always crickets. Makes me question whether he is a genuine dragons fan or not.
 

Gardenia

Bench
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3,700
3 CEO's, 3 different Coaches and what remained the same is the General Manager of Football, Ben Haran. We have not played finals football since Ben Haran became general manager of football. Jason Ryles wanted this position and also head of recruitment addressed before he would sign with us. Doesnt that tell you something? The only way out of this mess is to Sack Ben Haran.
 

bubs

Juniors
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994
Kyle's back this week. Gives you some more options in the 'Dropped Balls', or 'WTF Are you doing' categories.
He should be IMMEDIATELY re-signed and have his contract upgraded.
Confirm the Dargons to mediocrity for another 10 years.
 

thebigredv

First Grade
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Kyle doesn't get a run at any other club.
That's not an insult. It's a pure fact.

The Dragons fanbase have been so patient on this. We've tried to come around to him being a tough competitor who can take the physicality of first grade. Made to feel guilty for criticising him because he gives it his all. I have watched him die in the arse several times in important scoring positions. Now he gets rushed in as our chief playmaker.

We were promised Kyle would be a 14 and a decent halfback would be bought 2 seasons ago. We were told Gutherson would mentor Sloan. We were told the junior development would be unlike anything we've ever seen. Shane has failed on all accounts.
 

sammymills

Juniors
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693
Kyle doesn't get a run at any other club.
That's not an insult. It's a pure fact.

The Dragons fanbase have been so patient on this. We've tried to come around to him being a tough competitor who can take the physicality of first grade. Made to feel guilty for criticising him because he gives it his all. I have watched him die in the arse several times in important scoring positions. Now he gets rushed in as our chief playmaker.

We were promised Kyle would be a 14 and a decent halfback would be bought 2 seasons ago. We were told Gutherson would mentor Sloan. We were told the junior development would be unlike anything we've ever seen. Shane has failed on all accounts.
this is so true especially re: sloan.

now when we used to have him at FB, despite his defence issues which he did have, he would chime into backline plays and was QUICK. He also had good hands, and good support play.

instead they chuck him on the wing where he’s a good finisher but not much else, they get the shits with him and try move him on.

What happened to him being mentored to take over once Gutho left?

All in all it’s pretty sad tbh. he seems like such a great kid.
 

SEAT 1A

Bench
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3,576
And the Board deserve it.


It sickens me that's the board is so untouchable.

Wayne signs, tells the blazers stay the fu** out and we win the comp.

For the first time since the merge, the club showed what can be done. Resign Wayne and put your feet up.

We had our chase with the Kings bloke. I hate to say it however, I've accepted that we are making up the numbers.
 

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