Lockyer v Johns

[hugzy]

well well well, the stage is set for Darren Lockyer. Eerily similar to Joey's situation:

*ACL-ed
*Came back next year but missed origin 1, chucked into origin 2 after side got an*lly ravaged by the enemy state
*Now need to grab the series by the gonads: win at home before conquering away

im a knights fan so it wouldn't change my opinion what he does. but can he repeat wat joey did?

btw: can we NOT turn this into Quinnslanders going "YES" while blues fans going "NO"

 

[Mayor_Quimby]

No!

 

[salivor]

Will Lockyer ever be allowed to just be recognised for his own standing in the game an his own achievements or will he be forever destined to be compared to Johns at every opportunity?

 

[orochimaru]

I think he will, but I have a feeling he will get injured and place his career at risk.

 

[joondalup_giant]

is he goin to start on the bench and be injected into the game once things calm down around the 20 minute mark like bennett does when he plays for the broncos?

 

[Brookie]

yes, but you gotta remember that joey was probably peakin' on pills when he did it!
dirty cheating dog

 

[DangerMouse_007]

Of course he can do it. You saw what he did the the other night and has done in Origins in the past. There's a lot of factors that will go into it though ie how well will our forwards play, how good will the nsw defence be, will thurston give him a lot of ball, will the bounce of the ball go our way, will our outside backs perform. If most of those factors fall in his favor I'd say he'll play very very well. But they also might not. Who knows.

 

[Johns Magic]

yes, but you gotta remember that joey was probably peakin' on pills when he did it!
dirty cheating dog

Yes, I'm sure it made him play much better

 

[Azkatro]

Lockyer has, overall, achieved more in the game than Johns.
Johns has a better rugby league brain than Lockyer.
Lockyer is a better runner than Johns.
Johns has better ball-playing skills than Lockyer.
Lockyer is a better role model than Johns.
Johns has a better kicking game than Lockyer.
Lockyer is a far, far more graceful athlete than Johns.
Johns is a better defender than Lockyer.
Lockyer has played dozens of hours more rugby league at the top level than Johns.
Johns has scored more points at the top level than Lockyer.
Lockyer was the first picked at all levels at his chosen position more consistently than Johns.
Johns managed to exert more influence over games on his day than Lockyer.

Regardless of what happens in Origin 2, none of the above changes IMO.

 

[DangerMouse_007]

Agree with the post above however just on Lockyers kicking game I think its underated. He has the best kicking game in the game by a country mile. No one kicks it as far or as accurately. He keeps teams in games when they are totally dominated just with his massive punts. He also has the best bomb in the game, maybe ever. His touch is pretty good too, look at that kick he put on for kemp the other night and the other one he put in the in goal.

 

[Stranger]

Lockyer is a fine player. Not as good as Joey but thats not saying he is ****.

Hope he has a poor game 2 :lol:

 

[Red Bear]

Lockyer has, overall, achieved more in the game than Johns.
Johns has a better rugby league brain than Lockyer.
Lockyer is a better runner than Johns.
Johns has better ball-playing skills than Lockyer.
Lockyer is a better role model than Johns.
Johns has a better kicking game than Lockyer.
Lockyer is a far, far more graceful athlete than Johns.
Johns is a better defender than Lockyer.
Lockyer has played dozens of hours more rugby league at the top level than Johns.
Johns has scored more points at the top level than Lockyer.
Lockyer was the first picked at all levels at his chosen position more consistently than Johns.
Johns managed to exert more influence over games on his day than Lockyer.

Regardless of what happens in Origin 2, none of the above changes IMO.

So basically johns is a better player, Lockyer a better person?

 

[Hutty1986]

yes, but you gotta remember that joey was probably peakin' on pills when he did it!
dirty cheating dog

F*ck off you clown. What he took was never performance enhancing. Grow a brain

 

[Azkatro]

So basically johns is a better player, Lockyer a better person?

It can mean whatever you want it to mean mate, because it's all subjective. Personally I think it shows that experts who claim Johns is such a "complete" obviously don't consider many facets when they talk about completeness.

 

[Azkatro]

F*ck off you clown. What he took was never performance enhancing. Grow a brain

Not necessarily. Confidence is a performance attribute, and I'm pretty sure whatever he took had an effect on that.

 

[Brookie]

F*ck off you clown. What he took was never performance enhancing. Grow a brain

you f*ck off you goose, if you've ever had an excstasy pill, you'd know what it does to you....
how is that not performance enhancing by heightening you senses?

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Trust me it wont help on the football field...... it would have the same effect as havin a 6 pack of red bulls before a game

 

[Brookie]

Trust me it wont help on the football field...... it would have the same effect as havin a 6 pack of red bulls before a game

have you tried either, Dr Ausknight i presume?

come see me when you've played footy on a line of speed, or a handfull or glucose tablets, or yes even drank 6 redbulls before a game

 

[DangerMouse_007]

How come there has been no sort of expert opinion given on whether ecstasy is performance enhancer. Whenever Joey is brought up someone says they don't think he should be in the hall of fame etc because he was a drug cheat then someone always says ecstasy wasn't performance enhancing. I don't know how many times I've heard this argument. Could we get a ruling on this somehow? Something scientific would be good. Not "oh I've been on the pingers before and the day after i was real hyped and it helped me play better ay."

 

[Apey]

What a stupid thread.

People who hate Newcastle: Lockyer
People who love Newcastle: Joey
Blues fans (generally): Joey
QLDers: Lockyer.

No matter what happens, you will always get bias in a thread like this.

**** off with your moronic thread. Who gives a **** who was better, they are both a class above the rest.