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Gibbo

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They came last in that division last year as I recall.

But the season isn't over yet.


But in their area they have Keebra Park & Currabin High, among the best RL High Schools in Australia.

Keebra's kids go to Wests Tigers
 

russ13

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Keebra's kids go to Wests Tigers


True. The scholarship or contracted kids do.

But Burleigh & Tweed are two of the best clubs in the QC Cup & they are in the Titan's area.

The GC & Northern Rivers has very strong RL junior competitions.

Even if the Titan's property arm goes into liquidation the shareholders aren't liable for the debts.

In 2010 the Titans had the 2nd biggest average crowd of any NRL club (I think) - give 'em a break.
 
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nqboy

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March 22, 2012
THE new Australian Rugby League Commission is discussing the extraordinary option of letting the embattled Gold Coast die and starting from scratch with a new franchise on the south-east Queensland tourist strip.

The ARLC has employed independent auditors from a major Sydney firm who are presently on the Gold Coast and are scheduled to report back this week with a more complete picture of the Titans' financial status.

The club is in dire straits due to debt relating to the Centre of Excellence next to Skilled Park, with some estimations that the total figure owed to financiers the Commonwealth Bank, contractors and others stretches as high as $30 million.

Titans boss Michael Searle, who has a share of nearly 80 per cent in the club, maintains the organisation can get back on track by selling the training facility and property trust, as the football club itself is profitable.

Only three days ago the club signed Dave Taylor to a four-year contract worth a reported $1.8 million. Searle said last night claims that the Titans owe close to $30 million are ''a lie and completely misleading''.

However, the Herald has learnt that a series of options have been drawn up by the ARLC to combat the crisis should the troubles of the Titans' property arm impact gravely on the lifespan of the club.

They include a possible bailout and parachuting in of a new administration to run the Titans or, potentially, to allow the winding-up of the club and establish a replacement entity on the Gold Coast under a new licence. In such a scenario a Gold Coast team could stay in the NRL but possibly with a new name, logo and colours.

The latter is a last-resort alternative as the ARLC is concerned about alienating the public in a competitive sports market where the AFL is driving enormous funding to back their franchise, the Suns.

The members of the ARLC met on Tuesday and the Titans' problems were a key subject. Speaking yesterday, ARLC chief executive David Gallop would not detail the plans being weighed up by the new body running the game but said that auditors would have an assessment of the Titans' financial position shortly.

''Clearly it's a concern and we're in constant dialogue with Michael. There are a range of options but it's too early to say which option will be needed,'' Gallop said. ''It's not appropriate to go into what was discussed [on Tuesday] but clearly the commission were given a full update of where things are at.

''We are currently gathering as much information as we can regarding the financial position of the property investment and the football club. We've got some outside people assisting us with that and hopefully that information will be available in the next few days.''

Searle, one of the architects of the rugby league's independent commission and a visionary who set up the annual All Stars game, has been left to scramble as the Titans' property arm, Gold Coast Titans (Property) Pty Ltd, comes under pressure.

Despite spiralling property prices hitting hard on the anticipated value of the Centre of Excellence, he is adamant the Titans will survive and escape the maelstrom by selling the facility. They also plan to restructure the football club with the introduction of a partly independent board made up of two or three prominent Gold Coast figures as well as those with capital invested in the club.

Searle said last night the decision had been made to sell the Centre of Excellence. He also brushed off concerns that its sale price may not come close to matching the Titans' debt, and that the Titans' future was in immediate danger. ''We've made a decision to get rid of it,'' he said. ''We would only sell it if we eliminated all the debt - we're not going to sell it and say 'we still owe money'. We'll work with our bankers to come up with a solution. It's not as if it's not going to sell.''

Searle admitted he had approached the NRL late last year for funding support but said that was primarily to combat the AFL's insurgency on the Gold Coast. Searle claimed that request was the reason ARLC auditors were in town.

The sale of the Centre of Excellence would, in fact, benefit the football club significantly by easing costs, he said. ''The financial position of the club in 2013 is even stronger than it is in 2012,'' he said. ''We're profitable in 2012 and in '13 we're profitable again and with the [sale] of the property trust relieving the debt, we're $1.5 million a year better off.''

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...do-with-struggling-titans-20120321-1vkcq.html
 
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I dont see how letting them fold and creating a new franchise is going to help.

The titans have already built a supporter base. Albeit a small one, to just let that die and start another club would be going back to square one. It would be the what? the 4th franchise the gold coast has had, making it even harder to attract fans.

The bailout option, although costly is much better in the long term IMO.
 

Eels Dude

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I dont see how letting them fold and creating a new franchise is going to help.

The titans have already built a supporter base. Albeit a small one, to just let that die and start another club would be going back to square one. It would be the what? the 4th franchise the gold coast has had, making it even harder to attract fans.

The bailout option, although costly is much better in the long term IMO.

That's right. You can't just fold and fold again time after time. The practicality of having a team based on the Gold Coast has to be questioned though, hopefully they survive. But you can't just start up new franchises after new franchises year after year after one fails.
 

Pigskin

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Option: Let the Titans die.
Sell their centre of excellence.
$30 million debt.
I knew Searle had an interest, but 80% ?
Footy club dies due to spiralling property prices.

wow ... just wow to all of it

I find that a stunning article if true ... smacking of standard NRL rubbish administration

Investment is required over a very long period of time, not give in at the drop of a hat ... otherwise just let the AFL have the lot.

Crazy talk to say the least

Oink !
 

some11

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And somehow they think they can sign Cronk for 2.6 million right after Signing Taylor :crazy:
 

Goddy

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The Titans are an absolute mess. Who would've thought this would be where they are today back in 2007.
 

StormHi

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80% wow I was surprised by that .......... In the grand scheme of things 30 million is a fairly managble debt I would think if your a profitable club??? I dunno if the sale of CoE will cover the entirety of their debt.... Property has bottomed out in QLD the rates have gone up so much these past couple of years if I could sell my property at a profit hell even break even I would.... Alas I cannot and I don't understand how Searle can be so optimistic about the CoE selling.......

He needs to go to Holiwood and sex up brad and ange and get them to invest in the club 30 mil is like their 50 kids weekly allowance. :) Just be like Russell has a failure of a club and for a measly 30 mil so can you :)
 

WYD

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And somehow they think they can sign Cronk for 2.6 million right after Signing Taylor :crazy:
This is ridiculous logic, someone showed me the rag (telegraph) and I saw the same nonsense.

Every club has a salary cap to spend.

Do you really think it's in the best interests of the Gold Coast to field an uncompetitive team?

As a consequence they'll lose more money.
 
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Searle is in another dimension. They are broke and want Cronk. Who is bank rolling this? You think the NRL will let this club fold then think again. No way will they gift the AFL this area. Palmer may be the key in spite of recent events with GC United.
 
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Palmer can be a pain in the arse but he has plenty of dough so it would hardly bother him owning the Titans.
 
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Card Shark

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Every club has a salary cap to spend.

Do you really think it's in the best interests of the Gold Coast to field an uncompetitive team?

As a consequence they'll lose more money.

They do have a salary cap & it is equal to others but what about 3rd party deals - these players they are getting must be getting a bit extra. The Titans need that in their pocket.

Also if they didn't spend all their salary cap, wouldn't it be sensible financial management to try & help pay the debt.

Anyway buying a few big names on big money doesn't guarantee a successful team. It is shortsighted - they need to build a club culture of hard work not extravagance.
 

hellteam

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You have to question the leadership of Searle. He's chosen to build a 30mill centre of excellance and for what? It's obviously a bad decision and it baffles me that some people talk this guy up as one of the best CEO's in the league.

Also, I saw this photo in a news story this morning. What the hell is the third logo??? Is it the Gold Coast Vikings Q Cup team?

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Dogs Of War

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Also, I saw this photo in a news story this morning. What the hell is the third logo??? Is it the Gold Coast Vikings Q Cup team?

Gladiators. There was another owner that had the licence revoked in the 1995-96 offseason, so they never actually played a 1st grade game under that moniker (They did play trials and world 7's)
 
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