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Refs against Manly -- Slater try

Desert Qlder

First Grade
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1. It was a dubious try that got you back into the match so don't go crying about the Taufua try.

Winterstein's try was a perfectly legal and brilliant try that came after we were granted possession from a missed strip. In many ways similar to the possession you were given for your first try after a questionable penalty against Glenn Hall. Missed strips are a common occurrence in which the speed of the game proves too much for the refs eye.

There is no comparison to draw between a 50/50 call on a try made by the video ref and one made by an onfield ref during play. And those who do are extremely foolish. Is your intellect unable to make the differentiation of these circumstances?

2. I don't want sympathy. Most fans hate Manly and that's fine. But if people really want something to be done about the ineptitude, surely there should be the same level of outrage whenever such a blatantly wrong call is made. I despise the Bulldogs but I expresed my outrage over the try that ultimately cost them a minor premiership in 2009 simply because it was about the referees and not the teams.

Well post #107 was quite a pathetic outburst and it seemed as though you were looking for a shoulder to cry on.
 

LeedsStorm

Juniors
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Are you a f**king moron? He got hammered in the tackle.

Softest penalty I've seen in years. Toovey clearly agreed as he was shouting for the little bitch to get up and play the ball! Let Manly back in to the game, which was pretty unjust as they were absolute garbage up to that point (and indeed, continued to be for the remainder of the game)
 

Rosetta

Juniors
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Under the current rules it was a try. There was no separation.

The problem is the rule, no way no how that should be even considered a try

Unfortunately correct, the rule is an ass.

There was no separation when the ball touched the ground and there was downward pressure from the forearm, it's a try, a farcical one, but still a try.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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Clearly was a try. Don't blame the refs on this one, blame the rule book (or at least the interpretation of it)
 

LineBall

Juniors
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I'm just glad that the majority of LU posters have now decided that the refs are fine and nothing should be done about their ineptitude.

Only a minority on here seem to agree it wasn't a dud call.

If you read the thread nice and slowly, you will find the majority find it funny that it happens to Manly this week after they benefitted from dud calls the week before.
 

Crazy Steve

Juniors
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The way I saw it there was definitely separation, however as Foran deliberately stripped the ball in the act of stopping the try I took it to be play on at which time Slater gets on the ball and scores the try.
 

Sackyhack

Juniors
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Without doubt there is some sort of ref conspiracy against Manly. To give them a piggy back through to the prelims with dodgy calls, only to cut them down in the next game; it's just cruel.

I think Melbourne were in on it too..... 40 points! That's just being nasty!!
 

Frank_Grimes

First Grade
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Unfortunately correct, the rule is an ass.

There was no separation when the ball touched the ground and there was downward pressure from the forearm, it's a try, a farcical one, but still a try.

I'm tending to agree with this sentiment the more I look at the replay. The ball hit the ground while still in contact with Slater's forearm - Try. Even if there had been separation, it was dislodged by Foran's hand playing at it which would have been play on - Try.

Anyone trying to make a comparison with the Foran knock-on BOTD ruling last week either has rocks in their head, or is too biased to see clearly.
 

azza29

Juniors
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The ball hit the ground while still in contact with Slater's forearm - Try. Even if there had been separation, it was dislodged by Foran's hand playing at it which would have been play on - Try.

This - looked like a possible separation in the replay but Foran's attempt to play the ball nullifies that. BOTD was the right call. Will be interested to see if Harrigan confirms this in the weekly review.
 

Kiwi

First Grade
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9,471
I don't give a toss who it happens to, the Slater "try", the Cowboys getting shafter, the Storm "Try" against the Broncos to win the match, the dodgey calls in the Dogs v Broncos game to get the Dogs back into the game, the Ingliss try in origin, just to name a few are all reasons why I couldn't give a toss about league anymore. This is accepted as the norm, it happens to often, it's getting worse, and it's not like they can say it was 50 / 50, everyone knows they are shit calls. I'm over it, the game has lost me, I have got better things to do with my time than sit through 80 minutes of league wondering if some muppet on the field or in the box is going to ruin it.
 

Big Pete

Referee
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29,174
Yep, the rules are a joke. The sad thing is, you can understand how the refs. justified that decision given the interpretations set in place since around 2007.

Refs. already struggle enough, with the rules the way they are, no wonder so many fans are becoming disillusioned with the game.
 

no name

Referee
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20,713
It seems everyone has missed Chambers' knock on in playing the ball.

On Slater's put down, I don't think the ruled that Foran knocked it out and Slater grounded it, I think they ruled there was 'no seperation'. Usually when it is an odd call like knocked out by one player and grounded by another, they call the captain out and give an explanation.
 
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Easy fix..SIMPLIFY the rules.
Get rid of Hollywood to start with.

Keep VR,but no BOD.Either they see a clear putdown or its held up.
When checking lead ups to trys(Foran last week),then BOD goes to defending side.
 

Meth

Moderator
Staff member
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Neither the Slater try or the Oldfield try was of any consequence- Manly deserved to win last week and deserved to lose this week.
 

no name

Referee
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20,713
Anyone see that doozy just then in the 20's?
You can't be offside if no one is there to field the ball.
These merkins are deadset making it up as they go.
 
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